NFL Offseason

[David]

Chargers announce they'll be staying in SD next year, but still wielding their option to move to LA in hopes of getting SD to pony up for a stadium.

 

Rumors that Mark Davis was out in Vegas meeting with Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas Sands) and other city officials about a possible joint new stadium with UNLV.

[Cubswin11]

A NFL team in Vegas seems like a terrible idea but I guess if they can swindle the tax payers to pay for a stadium it doesn't matter that much. Guessing Vegas is more a pawn to try and get Oakland to pony up public money for an arena.

[dawson1989]

1. Chargers leave after attendance is horrendous next season.

 

2. Saw a joke headline of "Manziel immediately demands trade to Raiders after hearing Vegas rumors"

[dawson1989]

Most interesting team this offseason could end up being the Bengals. Half the defense will be free agents.

 

Other story lines of interest to me: 49ers QB situation and potential to draft one with one of their 12 picks, where RGIII ends up, what Cowboys do at QB after Jones' comments, what Denver does at QB, what Philly does with all the players Kelly brought in, if Carolina and Seattle can keep their All-Pro players from secondary ... I'm sure there are more

[SRQCub]

The Cowboys could end up with RGIII to back up Romo. Or they could do the really dumb thing and end up with Manziel.

[Cubswin11]

Manziel apparently had another "altercation" with his GF yesterday that the police were called on but no arrest happened. Generally if this happens once maybe it truly is nothing/misunderstanding but it keeps happening to the guy, you have to think something is there. He very well could be out of the league for good.

[SRQCub]

Manziel apparently had another "altercation" with his GF yesterday that the police were called on but no arrest happened. Generally if this happens once maybe it truly is nothing/misunderstanding but it keeps happening to the guy, you have to think something is there. He very well could be out of the league for good.

 

In a league where guys like Ray Rice and Greg Hardy have jobs, I don't see Manziel being banished.

[Cubswin11]

Manziel apparently had another "altercation" with his GF yesterday that the police were called on but no arrest happened. Generally if this happens once maybe it truly is nothing/misunderstanding but it keeps happening to the guy, you have to think something is there. He very well could be out of the league for good.

 

In a league where guys like Ray Rice and Greg Hardy have jobs, I don't see Manziel being banished.

Difference is though those 2 guys are actually good at football, Manziel probably isn't. Also Ray Rice has been out of the league since his incident.

[SRQCub]

Manziel apparently had another "altercation" with his GF yesterday that the police were called on but no arrest happened. Generally if this happens once maybe it truly is nothing/misunderstanding but it keeps happening to the guy, you have to think something is there. He very well could be out of the league for good.

 

In a league where guys like Ray Rice and Greg Hardy have jobs, I don't see Manziel being banished.

Difference is though those 2 guys are actually good at football, Manziel probably isn't. Also Ray Rice has been out of the league since his incident.

 

Perhaps. And yet it's nearly a 100% lock that both will be on NFL rosters next season.

[Sammy Sofa]

Well, maybe, because the Cowboys exist. Nobody else is likely touching them, and especially not Manziel. What would even be the point? He's been garbage in the pros and has been nothing but a headache.

 

And Rice is never coming back.

[dawson1989]

Rice hasn't played in two seasons and hasnot been good since 2012. Someone may kick the tires (I'd be surprised) but he'll never make another roster.

 

Most people agree Hardy was a mistake in Dallas.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Chargers announce they'll be staying in SD next year, but still wielding their option to move to LA in hopes of getting SD to pony up for a stadium.

 

Rumors that Mark Davis was out in Vegas meeting with Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas Sands) and other city officials about a possible joint new stadium with UNLV.

 

I really hope the Chargers stay in San Diego but I hope the city doesn't have to pick up the tab on the stadium. That crap is such a scam.

[dawson1989]

Chargers announce they'll be staying in SD next year, but still wielding their option to move to LA in hopes of getting SD to pony up for a stadium.

 

Rumors that Mark Davis was out in Vegas meeting with Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas Sands) and other city officials about a possible joint new stadium with UNLV.

 

I really hope the Chargers stay in San Diego but I hope the city doesn't have to pick up the tab on the stadium. That crap is such a scam.

 

Not sure why more teams haven't followed 49ers model.

[Wilson A2000]

Chargers announce they'll be staying in SD next year, but still wielding their option to move to LA in hopes of getting SD to pony up for a stadium.

 

Rumors that Mark Davis was out in Vegas meeting with Sheldon Adelson (Las Vegas Sands) and other city officials about a possible joint new stadium with UNLV.

 

I really hope the Chargers stay in San Diego but I hope the city doesn't have to pick up the tab on the stadium. That crap is such a scam.

 

Not sure why more teams haven't followed 49ers model.

 

What is their model?

[dawson1989]

Basically, choose a place just outside the real city, give them a proposal where the team pays more than half. Then over the years of actually building it add a few things to the cost allowing you to renegotiate and slowly have others pay more of the bill.

 

This breaks it own pretty well. Originally 49ers were to pay 53%, city pays a small amount through taxes, then investors in a sense pick up the rest. End result, 49ers pay 20%, city pays a little and investors pick up the rest.

 

Seriously, look at the numbers. 49ers got it approved with them spending $493 million and ended up working it down to $263 million while upping overall stadium cost from $931 million to $1.31 billion. Oh and the kicker? NFL is covering $200 million of the $263 million. End result, 49ers end up paying $63 million.

 

If the 49ers approached the city, investors and the NFL with the end result as the original proposal they would have gotten shot down quick.

 

http://m.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Levi-s-Stadium-The-1-3-billion-bet-5687409.php

[UMFan83]

Aaaaand Megatron is no more.

[dawson1989]

Aaaaand Megatron is no more.

 

Sort of. He agreed to take time to reconsider which he very well could considering it's only been a month since his season ended.

[dawson1989]

If Calvin Johnson does retire the Lions will have had both the most talented RB and most talented WR for the entirety of their careers but watch both retire early due to the Lions ineptitude. Obviously most talented can be argued but both Barry for RB and Calvin for WR are on the short list.

[UMFan83]

Aaaaand Megatron is no more.

 

Sort of. He agreed to take time to reconsider which he very well could considering it's only been a month since his season ended.

 

I read that as, he told Caldwell right after the season that he would take time to reconsider, and this is his decision after that period.

[UMFan83]

If Calvin Johnson does retire the Lions will have had both the most talented RB and most talented WR for the entirety of their careers but watch both retire early due to the Lions ineptitude. Obviously most talented can be argued but both Barry for RB and Calvin for WR are on the short list.

 

What does Lions ineptitude have to do with them retiring? Maybe a little for Barry but he could have easily forced himself out of town and same with Calvin. lions have made the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons and were a Rodgers Hail Mary from finishing the season winning 7 of their last 8. I highly doubt he's retiring because the team sucks.

[dawson1989]

If Calvin Johnson does retire the Lions will have had both the most talented RB and most talented WR for the entirety of their careers but watch both retire early due to the Lions ineptitude. Obviously most talented can be argued but both Barry for RB and Calvin for WR are on the short list.

 

What does Lions ineptitude have to do with them retiring? Maybe a little for Barry but he could have easily forced himself out of town and same with Calvin. lions have made the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons and were a Rodgers Hail Mary from finishing the season winning 7 of their last 8. I highly doubt he's retiring because the team sucks.

 

Barry said that was the reason so yeah, a lot more than a little bit. He said he'd retire unless released or traded to contender and the Lions refused if memory serves,

 

If Calvin was winning and playing in SBs I highly doubt he'd be retiring.

[dawson1989]

Aaaaand Megatron is no more.

 

Sort of. He agreed to take time to reconsider which he very well could considering it's only been a month since his season ended.

 

I read that as, he told Caldwell right after the season that he would take time to reconsider, and this is his decision after that period.

 

Reread it. It's ESPN finding out a month later what he said to family, friends and Caldwell and writing up a story. He's still taking time and the article states the Lions haven't given up hope.

[UMFan83]

If Calvin Johnson does retire the Lions will have had both the most talented RB and most talented WR for the entirety of their careers but watch both retire early due to the Lions ineptitude. Obviously most talented can be argued but both Barry for RB and Calvin for WR are on the short list.

 

What does Lions ineptitude have to do with them retiring? Maybe a little for Barry but he could have easily forced himself out of town and same with Calvin. lions have made the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons and were a Rodgers Hail Mary from finishing the season winning 7 of their last 8. I highly doubt he's retiring because the team sucks.

 

Barry said that was the reason so yeah, a lot more than a little bit. He said he'd retire unless released or traded to contender and the Lions refused if memory serves,

 

If Calvin was winning and playing in SBs I highly doubt he'd be retiring.

 

Like half the 49ers retired one season removed from a conference title game and 2 years removed from a super bowl.

[dawson1989]

 

What does Lions ineptitude have to do with them retiring? Maybe a little for Barry but he could have easily forced himself out of town and same with Calvin. lions have made the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons and were a Rodgers Hail Mary from finishing the season winning 7 of their last 8. I highly doubt he's retiring because the team sucks.

 

Barry said that was the reason so yeah, a lot more than a little bit. He said he'd retire unless released or traded to contender and the Lions refused if memory serves,

 

If Calvin was winning and playing in SBs I highly doubt he'd be retiring.

 

Like half the 49ers retired one season removed from a conference title game and 2 years removed from a super bowl.

 

Haha. Every player is an individual. 49ers players retiring has no correlation to Calvin's specific situation. Anyways, Willis retired to help people seek God, Anthony Davis retired because he couldn't stay healthy, Justin Smith nearly didn't retire but did after considering all the other retirements and 49ers likely fall, Borland never wanted to play in the first place.

[UMFan83]

Right and despite absolutely no comments regarding why he is retiring you presume it's because the Lions are inept.