Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 8-10-15

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Box Scores:

 

Iowa had the day off

 

Tennessee won 6-5 Box Score

 

Myrtle Beach had the day off

 

South Bend had the day off

 

Eugene won 9-0 Box Score

 

AZL Cubs won 6-0 Box Score

 

DSL Cubs 6-5 Box Score

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Almora double in the first. I think I'm in love.

[Guest]

Contreras single and McKinney HR

 

Tennessee is fun right now.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Contreras single and McKinney HR

 

Tennessee is fun right now.

 

Miggy wasn't lying when he said there was talent there.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Almora adds a single, making this his sixth consecutive multi-hit game. McKinney adds a walk and a double to his homer. And, Candelario is 1-2 with a triple and a BB.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Oh and Ryan Williams, through 6: 1H 0BB 0R 5K

[Guest]

That makes Williams' FIP at Tennessee about 2.30 or so.

[jersey cubs fan]

That makes Williams' FIP at Tennessee about 2.30 or so.

Was e one of those senior draftees that signed for $0.87?

[davell]

These guys are making it very hard to evaluate. Contreras has obviously done enough to put him inside our top 10. How high though, I've got no true feel honestly. Plus, he's played damn near as well as possible. I guess end of year reports dictate how high I'll put him.

 

Almora? Obviously, the hope is he's figured it out and is clicking now. It'll take a very solid finish for me to give him credit for anything more than a hot streak. He was outside of my top 10, just 2 weeks ago by a decent amount.

 

Candelario was just putting along in MB, gets a promotion that was arguably more necessity, than merit, then starts raking immediately....He's the hardest of this group to figure, in my opinion. He's sputtered for quite a while and it'll take me a while to forget that. But damn, he's been awesome....

[davell]

That makes Williams' FIP at Tennessee about 2.30 or so.

Was e one of those senior draftees that signed for $0.87?

 

Yep. They scouted him on trips to see Jeff Hoffman.

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[Little Slide Rooter]

I don't know what to make of Almora's post break surge, but admit it, had we traded him for a mid level rental such as Leake or Latos just before he put together this stint, some of you would be starting to eye the heroin and hypodermics right about now.

[JennieGarthAlgar]

I don't know what to make of Almora's post break surge, but admit it, had we traded him for a mid level rental such as Leake or Latos just before he put together this stint, some of you would be starting to eye the heroin and hypodermics right about now.

 

Eh, I doubt it. It'd be great if Almora makes it as our CF, but by that time, we can find another guy to replace him. Maybe Happ, maybe Baez, maybe we just sign Fowler for 4 more years

[TruffleShuffle]

even if almora can provide really good defense and mediocre offense - like leonys martin or kevin kiermyer - that's still a very valuable player at a league minimum salary. given that the cubs don't have an obvious long-term options at CF, i'm hopeful that almora can get there.

[JonJayCutler]

I personally gave up on Almora after last season. Light-hitting outfielders who don't walk tend not to last long on MLB rosters, although his defense will probably grant him a few years on someone's bench, ala Sam Fuld. Prove me wrong, Albert.

[tfarks]

I don't know what to make of Almora's post break surge, but admit it, had we traded him for a mid level rental such as Leake or Latos just before he put together this stint, some of you would be starting to eye the heroin and hypodermics right about now.

 

Eh, I doubt it. It'd be great if Almora makes it as our CF, but by that time, we can find another guy to replace him. Maybe Happ, maybe Baez, maybe we just sign Fowler for 4 more years

 

Gross. This better not happen.

[sontensei]

I don't know what to make of Almora's post break surge, but admit it, had we traded him for a mid level rental such as Leake or Latos just before he put together this stint, some of you would be starting to eye the heroin and hypodermics right about now.

 

Eh, I doubt it. It'd be great if Almora makes it as our CF, but by that time, we can find another guy to replace him. Maybe Happ, maybe Baez, maybe we just sign Fowler for 4 more years

 

Gross. This better not happen.

 

I agree, hopefully if Fowler is around its just 1 year. He doesn't seem like the long term solutions.. I could see the cubs giving a QO and he takes it, but 2-3 years, not sure about it..

[Cubswin11]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

Bottom line is the team is clearly ready to compete now and re-signing Fowler, unless they make a big FA(Heyward)/trade move, gives them the best chance to compete the next 2 years at least (estimating 2 years is how long it will take if/when an internal candidate is ever ready/identified).

Edited August 11, 2015 by Cubswin11

[Guest]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

 

Yeah. He's a good bet not to be a black hole at the very least, and that's valuable in itself, especially on a contending team.

[Cubswin11]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

 

Yeah. He's a good bet not to be a black hole at the very least, and that's valuable in itself, especially on a contending team.

Yeah and I think it's a reasonable assumption that the FO isn't going to spend major money on a FA CF or give up major assets to acquire one. The alternatives to not bringing Fowler back (and assuming no major FA/trade happens) are kinda scary. With no real internal options that can be impactful we'd be left with some sort of revolving CF poo-poo platter of Szczur and some FA combination of Parra, Venable, Span, De Aza, Davis, you get the point

[KingCubsFan]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

 

Yeah. He's a good bet not to be a black hole at the very least, and that's valuable in itself, especially on a contending team.

Yeah and I think it's a reasonable assumption that the FO isn't going to spend major money on a FA CF or give up major assets to acquire one. The alternatives to not bringing Fowler back (and assuming no major FA/trade happens) are kinda scary. With no real internal options that can be impactful we'd be left with some sort of revolving CF poo-poo platter of Szczur and some FA combination of Parra, Venable, Span, De Aza, Davis, you get the point

If they believe that Almora's adjustments are for real, I think signing a guy like Venable and bringing back Denorfia is pretty likely for the start of the season. By mid-2016, Almora is either knocking on the door to the majors or he's shown this is a mirage and they're back to looking for a younger guy with multiple years of control.

[Guest]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

 

Yeah. He's a good bet not to be a black hole at the very least, and that's valuable in itself, especially on a contending team.

Yeah and I think it's a reasonable assumption that the FO isn't going to spend major money on a FA CF or give up major assets to acquire one. The alternatives to not bringing Fowler back (and assuming no major FA/trade happens) are kinda scary. With no real internal options that can be impactful we'd be left with some sort of revolving CF poo-poo platter of Szczur and some FA combination of Parra, Venable, Span, De Aza, Davis, you get the point

 

I feel like taking a (potentially) 90+ win team on the upswing and going with that revolving poo-poo platter is less likely than them spending money or assets on a good CF.

[Cubswin11]

I know it's been hashed out before but not being open to Fowler coming back on a multi year deal is madness. There's no clear/guaranteed options in the minors for next year or really even 2 years (even if Almora has been fixed he could still be a good 1.5 years away at least, Happ the same and it's not even clear he's a CF, McKinney isn't a CF), Fowler is still youngish and with a 3-4 year deal we should still get good performance out of him for all of it, and the FA market on CF is really bad outside of Heyward on a massive deal (which sure that would be great). Also there's no way he's taking the QO, he's getting a multi year deal from someone.

 

 

Yeah. He's a good bet not to be a black hole at the very least, and that's valuable in itself, especially on a contending team.

Yeah and I think it's a reasonable assumption that the FO isn't going to spend major money on a FA CF or give up major assets to acquire one. The alternatives to not bringing Fowler back (and assuming no major FA/trade happens) are kinda scary. With no real internal options that can be impactful we'd be left with some sort of revolving CF poo-poo platter of Szczur and some FA combination of Parra, Venable, Span, De Aza, Davis, you get the point

If they believe that Almora's adjustments are for real, I think signing a guy like Venable and bringing back Denorfia is pretty likely for the start of the season. By mid-2016, Almora is either knocking on the door to the majors or he's shown this is a mirage and they're back to looking for a younger guy with multiple years of control.

I'd be pretty upset if this is what they do, willingly throwing out a worse team when we are a competitor

[Guest]

That'd be indefensible if you had Buxton, much less Almora.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Some DSL pitcher named Andri Rondon has been striking out a lot of guys lately.