Rizzo Starting ASG

[Andy]

Gets the DH spot.

 

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[apete6]

When did they start using the DH in NL parks? And can we just use that as a steppingstone to using it across MLB already?

 

Pretty shitty argument from the league as to why the DH isn't in the NL if it's used in the highest profile game they have all season.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

When did they start using the DH in NL parks? And can we just use that as a steppingstone to using it across MLB already?

 

Pretty [expletive] argument from the league as to why the DH isn't in the NL if it's used in the highest profile game they have all season.

 

They have been doing it since 2010, and it's really mostly to keep the scorecard clean.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

[Banedon]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

[weis21]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

Plus injecting additional offense into this pitching-dominated climate.

[jersey cubs fan]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

 

There's no GD strategy in baseball. It's out out out out out 1 run out out game over.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

 

There's no GD strategy in baseball. It's out out out out out 1 run out out game over.

 

Ah, but to get that one run could require 15 decisions in the NL. I love it!

[jersey cubs fan]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

 

There's no GD strategy in baseball. It's out out out out out 1 run out out game over.

 

Ah, but to get that one run could require 15 decisions in the NL. I love it!

and every one of those decisions is:

 

should we pinch hit for our shitty hitting pitcher? Not yet.

should we pinch hit for our shitty hitting pitcher? Not yet.

should we pinch hit for our shitty hitting pitcher? Not yet.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Of course, I'm also a big (and perhaps last?) fan of the non-DH format in the NL. I love as much strategy needed in a game as possible, and the DH often takes a lot of that enjoyment away.

 

There's still plenty of fans of it. Just a lot of people are willing to give it up if it means standardizing the rules across the league, as they realize that the DH isn't ever going away in the AL.

 

There's no GD strategy in baseball. It's out out out out out 1 run out out game over.

 

Ah, but to get that one run could require 15 decisions in the NL. I love it!

and every one of those decisions is:

 

should we pinch hit for our [expletive] hitting pitcher? Not yet.

should we pinch hit for our [expletive] hitting pitcher? Not yet.

should we pinch hit for our [expletive] hitting pitcher? Not yet.

 

So much more than that. Hell, ask Joe Maddon about it if you ever see him on the street.

[Guest]

All that "strategy" makes like a .001% difference. There's no [expletive] strategy.

 

There's strategy in football. In baseball there's just a bunch of 30-40% rolls of dices.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

All that "strategy" makes like a .001% difference. There's no [expletive] strategy.

 

There's strategy in football. In baseball there's just a bunch of 30-40% rolls of dices.

 

I wonder the last time an AL manager had to decide whether or not to take out his best offensive player because he just made the last out of a tie game in the late innings.

 

And holy [expletive], no strategy in baseball? Are you [expletive] kidding me?

[Guest]

All that "strategy" makes like a .001% difference. There's no [expletive] strategy.

 

There's strategy in football. In baseball there's just a bunch of 30-40% rolls of dices.

 

I wonder the last time an AL manager had to decide whether or not to take out his best offensive player because he just made the last out of a tie game in the late innings.

 

And holy [expletive], no strategy in baseball? Are you [expletive] kidding me?

Not kidding you in the least. That's why complete buffoon meatheads can be "successful" managers.

[Guest]

Dusty [expletive] baker got the cubs further than they've been since 1945 (when there were no playoffs so even that is arguable)

[Andy]

Oh, good, the DH debate again. We don't do this enough.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

All that "strategy" makes like a .001% difference. There's no [expletive] strategy.

 

There's strategy in football. In baseball there's just a bunch of 30-40% rolls of dices.

 

I wonder the last time an AL manager had to decide whether or not to take out his best offensive player because he just made the last out of a tie game in the late innings.

 

And holy [expletive], no strategy in baseball? Are you [expletive] kidding me?

Not kidding you in the least. That's why complete buffoon meatheads can be "successful" managers.

 

And there are shitty coaches who have won or gotten to Super Bowls. Obviously, having great talent is the No. 1 key to success.

 

But to say there is no strategy in baseball goes higher than just the managers. I'm talking the entire game that's played on the field, from pitch selection, etc. There is a ton of strategy in this game.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Bryant's Disco Ball

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Oh, good, the DH debate again. We don't do this enough.

 

Yeah, sorry. This is my first one. But I will stop talking about it now, as nobody is suddenly going to change their minds.

[jersey cubs fan]

But to say there is no strategy in baseball goes higher than just the managers. I'm talking the entire game that's played on the field, from pitch selection, etc. There is a ton of strategy in this game.

 

Well then if you are talking about that then the increased "strategy" a pitcher must use to face a 9th quality hitter negates any lost should I pinch hit questions.

 

 

Also, only idiots double switch their best hitters.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

But to say there is no strategy in baseball goes higher than just the managers. I'm talking the entire game that's played on the field, from pitch selection, etc. There is a ton of strategy in this game.

 

Well then if you are talking about that then the increased "strategy" a pitcher must use to face a 9th quality hitter negates any lost should I pinch hit questions.

 

 

Also, only idiots double switch their best hitters.

 

Fair enough.

 

To sum up, I'm just saying that I enjoy the different decisions a manager in the NL has to make compared to the AL, and that I like NL style of ball better. Managers in general don't mean much, but the decisions they have to make during the course of an NL game is something I find more fascinating and fun.

[Banedon]

Oh, good, the DH debate again. We don't do this enough.

 

I mean, it is a baseball message board, and it's an extremely divisive topic. Good chance it's going to come up on occasion.

[apete6]

So, yeah, I was unaware they've been doing this since 2010 ,thanks for the answer.

 

I get both sides of the DH argument and am really on the fence, but this example is a pretty bad look for the hardcore NL-ers out there.

 

Let's hope Rizzo does well enough to further the discussion.

[Sammy Sofa]

If the NL had the DH Schwarber would be in the lineup already.

[Andy]

So, yeah, I was unaware they've been doing this since 2010 ,thanks for the answer.

 

I get both sides of the DH argument and am really on the fence, but this example is a pretty bad look for the hardcore NL-ers out there.

 

Let's hope Rizzo does well enough to further the discussion.

It's pretty much irrelevant to those, like me, that prefer the NL style. No pitcher is ever going to bat in an All-Star Game as it's currently played anyway, so this makes it easier for the managers to execute the real purpose of the game, to get as many players on the field as possible for as long as possible.

[Splendid Splinter]

All that "strategy" makes like a .001% difference. There's no [expletive] strategy.

 

There's strategy in football. In baseball there's just a bunch of 30-40% rolls of dices.

 

 

[DiamondMind]

oh man I remember that picture