7/8 cards (wacha) @ cubs (hammel) 7:05 CSN/ESPN

[TruffleShuffle]

Next series we face Sale, Rodon and Quintana...I would be very happy with 2 out of 3

 

rodon has a 1.64 whip, quintana is giving up more than a hit per inning, and the white sox have one player with an ops over .712.

[itisallpartoftheplan]

97 guests. How are you guys?? Lol

[Little Slide Rooter]

I have been saying this for a month now... Everyone loves to follow stats and say "the Cubs bullpen is good" sure..but they struggle really bad in clutch situations and have no one to turn to with consistency.

 

 

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What's coming out here is "me angry, bullpen bad." But if what you're trying to say is that there's something to be said for having an everyday closer, I can't disagree with that.

[Schwarber Fan]

I'll be OK with this split as long as everything is fine with Hammel. If he's out for an extended period we could be in deep trouble.

 

Strop should not be used in the 9th - stick with Motte and Rondon until you get Papelbon or try Soriano or something. I'd cut Richard - he's lucky he got to face the Marlins.

 

Finally, I'll take some solace that the Pirates AND cardinals can't both win for the next 4 days. I think the Pirates can catch them and having to play that WC game at Busch is the biggest fear of them all for me.

[downsr30]

The following are stats for Cubs relievers in leverage situations with the high leverage first, low leverage 2nd

Strop : .235 avg, .336 Obp,

.081 avg, .125 Obp

 

Rondon:

263 avg, .310 Obp

.171 avg .256 Obp

 

Motte:

.229 avg, .366 Obp

.212, .241 Obp

 

Papelbon:

.103, .219

.230,.313

 

 

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[downsr30]

Point being: the Cubs pitchers have great stats when it doesn't really matter.

 

 

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[Little Slide Rooter]

97 guests. How are you guys?? Lol

 

Probably the vengeful ghosts of slain Cardinal trolls hoping for an all out board meltdown.

[ARCubsFan]

Every situation is a low leverage situation for Jonathan Papelbon in Philadelphia

[UMFan83]

Damn. I took off and it was 4-2 so wasn't surprised when we lost 6-5. But then I went back and read the PBP.

 

Lots of shitty things but I'm randomly going to bitch at Castro twice striking out with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs. He sucks :(

[PrimeTime]

109 guests now..lol

[downsr30]

Add more fuel to the fire:

Justin Grimm

High leverage: .353 avg, .476 Obp

Low leverage: .180 avg, .220 Obp

 

 

 

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[UMFan83]

97 guests. How are you guys?? Lol

 

Are the library computer labs open that late in St Louis?

[Schwarber Fan]

Am I going to have to be the guy to say most relievers numbers are probably notably worse in high leverage spots?

[Little Slide Rooter]

97 guests. How are you guys?? Lol

 

Are the library computer labs open that late in St Louis?

 

If by library computer labs, you mean White Castles with I Phone 3s, then 24/7.

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[downsr30]

Trevor Rosenthal:

High leverage: .175, .270

Low: .180, .256

 

This is what a closer is - they are good in high leverage situations - the Cubs bullpen has no one ever remotely close to the Papelbon - who's available, and Rosenthal who is on a team that's dominating the league

 

 

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[ARCubsFan]

Would like to see those low leverage/high leverage splits since May. The bullpen sucked the first month but has been incredible since.

[downsr30]

Most closers are actually much worse in low-leverage situations. They excel with the pressure.

 

 

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[Irrelevant Dude]

Am I going to have to be the guy to say most relievers numbers are probably notably worse in high leverage spots?

Wouldn't that also have to mean that most hitters are better in clutch situations?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Trevor Rosenthal:

High leverage: .175, .270

Low: .180, .256

 

This is what a closer is - they are good in high leverage situations - the Cubs bullpen has no one ever remotely close to the Papelbon - who's available, and Rosenthal who is on a team that's dominating the league

 

 

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I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on whether or not the Cubs need a closer.

[seanimal]

97 guests. How are you guys?? Lol

 

Are the library computer labs open that late in St Louis?

 

no but the cell phones are on during the drive home from [insert st. louis bar]

[ARCubsFan]

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[UMFan83]

Most closers are actually much worse in low-leverage situations. They excel with the pressure.

 

 

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Sorry you can't be a closer, you didn't give up 4 runs when we threw you out there in a blowout last week.

[downsr30]

I just get a good laugh out of all these gives who live off of stats that are easy to see - then I prove my point with very definitive evidence and it's like "well..umm.. Look at stats since May!" It's like - just bc you don't agree with what I have to say, don't be the guy who disagrees just to do it.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

Damn. I feel like my magnificent new sig drove them to victory...and then when I had to bail before the end it all went kaput.

 

Ah well, cool with the split, plus I liked a lot of what I saw tonight.

[TruffleShuffle]

Most closers are actually much worse in low-leverage situations. They excel with the pressure.