2015 Cubs-Related Trade Deadline Rumor Thread

[Guest]

http://chicago.suntimes.com/baseball/7/71/753380/maddon-bosio-magician-part-can-cubs-make-impact-trade

 

PTR gonna PTR....Kiss Hamels goodbye if this is the case.

 

get on the kazmir train baby

[UMFan83]

Without going into it too deep, what would still be the hold up in terms of a revenue ceiling? Do the Ricketts still hold a ton of debt on their purchase of the Cubs? Because we got the advertising, we have the jumbotrons for even more advertising, etc, I think we are making more with the new TV Deals even if its not the big one due in 2019.

[Guest]

Without going into it too deep, what would still be the hold up in terms of a revenue ceiling? Do the Ricketts still hold a ton of debt on their purchase of the Cubs? Because we got the advertising, we have the jumbotrons for even more advertising, etc, I think we are making more with the new TV Deals even if its not the big one due in 2019.

 

if it's actually a real thing, the covenant doesn't go away until 2019 iirc

[SouthSideRyan]

Without going into it too deep, what would still be the hold up in terms of a revenue ceiling? Do the Ricketts still hold a ton of debt on their purchase of the Cubs? Because we got the advertising, we have the jumbotrons for even more advertising, etc, I think we are making more with the new TV Deals even if its not the big one due in 2019.

 

I remain steadfast in my belief that any new dollar in is spent on the renovations

[davell]

It's freaking Gordo, though. Come on now.

 

Mooney has hinted around at the same thing, just without a dollar amount attached. They've got their hands around the debt structure stuff pretty well.

 

And yeah, we've got extra revenues starting to come in, but this is the first year for most of them, right? So assuming this IS debt related(I do), there's the very good chance that spending heavily on IFA's cuts deeply into what we can do prior to the deadline. I'm hoping that since those guys sign contracts for NEXT season, that their bonuses can be counted towards next season and that's the reason for Crane's comments about Theo being resourceful. Unfortunately, I THINK that this is just Crane taking blame off himself and Ricketts by saying we've got money available, even if its not enough to do anything we want.

 

Either way, as David said, a Kazmir addition is great with me.

[sneakypower]

Indians are interesting, at 5.5 back of WC i wonder what availability of Carrasco/Salazar/Brantley/McAllister will be

 

Mat Latos/Yovani Gallardo/Mike Leake seem ideal targets in terms of value, though

[Guest]

why does mike leake's name keep coming up

 

wtf am i missing

[SouthSideRyan]

It's freaking Gordo, though. Come on now.

 

Mooney has hinted around at the same thing, just without a dollar amount attached. They've got their hands around the debt structure stuff pretty well.

 

And yeah, we've got extra revenues starting to come in, but this is the first year for most of them, right? So assuming this IS debt related(I do), there's the very good chance that spending heavily on IFA's cuts deeply into what we can do prior to the deadline. I'm hoping that since those guys sign contracts for NEXT season, that their bonuses can be counted towards next season and that's the reason for Crane's comments about Theo being resourceful. Unfortunately, I THINK that this is just Crane taking blame off himself and Ricketts by saying we've got money available, even if its not enough to do anything we want.

 

Either way, as David said, a Kazmir addition is great with me.

 

Aren't we not really spending that heavily on IFAs?

[Cubswin11]

Indians are interesting, at 5.5 back of WC i wonder what availability of Carrasco/Salazar/Brantley/McAllister will be

 

Mat Latos/Yovani Gallardo/Mike Leake seem ideal targets in terms of value, though

Leake and Latos do nothing for me. Love the idea of Brantley

[davell]

I'm basing it on a couple of things....One baseball ops budget obviously. Last year we spent 4 mill or so total on IFA's.

 

What's been reported versus what may wind up being the case on IFA's can always change, but currently we've spent 2.5 on Sierra, 2 on Ademan, 1.2 on Amaya, 1.3 on Perlaza, .650 on Perez, and a mill plus on Martinez....Plus, while its not confirmed in the US, a Korean paper has us with 1.2 on a 1B.....Then, there's another 4-5 guys we're rumored on too, which most likely wind up signing(if they haven't already)-call that 3 mill.

 

That's 10 mill in confirmed guys-13 or so with the others....Then remember that our bonus pool is only slightly over 3 mill....100% penalty factored in and we're spending 17 mill already, likely to be around 23.....Plus, there are some high upside Cubans left that have yet to be cleared and it wouldn't surprise me if we got one of them(most of them appear to be 2-7 mill bonus types)

 

So in the end, our IFA budget went from 4 mill last year, to a bare minimum of 17 this year and likely into the low/mid 20's....

 

Any extra revenues we've added this year to date could legitimately have gone to paying IFA overages at this point.

[sneakypower]

why does mike leake's name keep coming up

 

wtf am i missing

my long-standing fetishizing of pitchers that hit well

 

factoring that, and the WAR that actually matters, he's like a 2.5-3 win pitcher for his career (and Clayton Richard/Tsuyoshi Wada aren't) and should be exceedingly cheap to acquire

[sneakypower]

Indians are interesting, at 5.5 back of WC i wonder what availability of Carrasco/Salazar/Brantley/McAllister will be

 

Mat Latos/Yovani Gallardo/Mike Leake seem ideal targets in terms of value, though

Leake and Latos do nothing for me. Love the idea of Brantley

ZiPS ROS projects Latos for same FIP as Hamels

[Guest]

Yeah, as much as he's a dirtbag, I'm kind of hoping that his fluky-bad ERA drops the price on Latos to a very reasonable level.

[Guest]

i'd be beyond fine with douchebag latos replacing richard/wada in our rotation

[Tyrant]

i'd be beyond fine with douchebag latos replacing richard/wada in our rotation

 

i've seen a few people say that the cubs don't want any part of him in their clubhouse.

[Little Slide Rooter]

why does mike leake's name keep coming up

 

wtf am i missing

my long-standing fetishizing of pitchers that hit well

 

factoring that, and the WAR that actually matters, he's like a 2.5-3 win pitcher for his career (and Clayton Richard/Tsuyoshi Wada aren't) and should be exceedingly cheap to acquire

 

Or he could just be this year's Rick Porcello. The name that keeps coming up and everyone hates until someone smart convinces us otherwise.

 

TT, I'm looking in your direction.

[HendryWallet]

Speculation about interest in Neftali Feliz.

 

Dont know much about what he is now...only that he is light years from his pre-injuries form

[Clem Fandango]

Speculation about interest in Neftali Feliz.

 

Dont know much about what he is now...only that he is light years from his pre-injuries form

 

I hadn't realized he was DFA'd. He just opted to become a free agent. He'd cost nothing but money, and probably not a lot. No reason not to take a chance on him and see if Bosio can help him out.

[davell]

I'd like to get him, but I'd want a deal with a team option attached, since he's a FA next year.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I'd like to get him, but I'd want a deal with a team option attached, since he's a FA next year.

 

Do you mean as in 2017? Because he has one more year of arbitration in 2016.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Twitter has multiple reports of him going to tbe Tigers.

[Backtobanks]

Gammons is reporting that the Padres are listening to offers on Shields I wonder if the Padres would go for a Castro + Jackson for Shields + Venable deal. Tweak with a few prospects going both ways. Total money is close to even.

[Derwood]

Gammons is reporting that the Padres are listening to offers on Shields I wonder if the Padres would go for a Castro + Jackson for Shields + Venable deal. Tweak with a few prospects going both ways. Total money is close to even.

Why on earth would the Padres make that deal?

[UMFan83]

Gammons is reporting that the Padres are listening to offers on Shields I wonder if the Padres would go for a Castro + Jackson for Shields + Venable deal. Tweak with a few prospects going both ways. Total money is close to even.

Why on earth would the Padres make that deal?

 

It's possible Castro has some value..who knows. But yeah throwing Jackson in there completely kills this as a viable trade offer.

[Sammy Sofa]

Gammons is reporting that the Padres are listening to offers on Shields I wonder if the Padres would go for a Castro + Jackson for Shields + Venable deal. Tweak with a few prospects going both ways. Total money is close to even.

Why on earth would the Padres make that deal?

 

It's possible Castro has some value..who knows. But yeah throwing Jackson in there completely kills this as a viable trade offer.

 

Caatro definitely has value even with his terrible season. He's only 25 and under a very team-friendly deal; based on his past success I have little doubt that plenty of FO's will think they can fix him.

 

But yeah, THAT deal seems to be hinged on the Padres mostly just looking to swap money for reasons.