2015 Bears Offseason (Foxy new Head Coach page 104)

[Guest]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Are you surprised?

 

This is the same thing me and WF22 were complaining about. They don't have a football guy at the top, they don't follow a proper chain of command. Phillips and mccaskey have their hand in the cookie jar regardless if Accorsi is there or not.

I don't endorse this post- I think the two things are separate issues.

[minnesotacubsfan]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

 

Actually, that does make sense given playoff teams. But it's still not an excuse for them leaving Emery in the chair up until Monday.

[jersey cubs fan]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

 

given this organization's history of ineptitude with these things, i have a hard time believing they're doing something that smart. if they are, sure, it's great.

 

It has already been reported that this is exactly what they are doing.

[Guest]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

The only thing I worry about is that they fall in love with a coach and shape their GM around that even if they don't strictly try to "force" the coach on someone. If they're just getting permission now that's obviously okay.

[Guest]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

 

given this organization's history of ineptitude with these things, i have a hard time believing they're doing something that smart. if they are, sure, it's great.

 

It has already been reported that this is exactly what they are doing.

 

i hadn't heard that

[minnesotacubsfan]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

 

given this organization's history of ineptitude with these things, i have a hard time believing they're doing something that smart. if they are, sure, it's great.

 

It has already been reported that this is exactly what they are doing.

 

i hadn't heard that

 

Neither have I, but why else would they do it?

[jersey cubs fan]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Some guys can only be interviewed now or you have to wait for weeks. It is perfectly reasonable that they would interview these guys to get the process started so that once a GM is hired they will only have to let him interview these guys again. It's a lot better than not showing any interest in them and allowing potential candidates to be ignored.

 

Actually, that does make sense given playoff teams. But it's still not an excuse for them leaving Emery in the chair up until Monday.

 

I believe it took them longer to realize Emery was part of the problem and I am fine with that timing. They did it on Black Monday and the fact that they didn't need time to review in the offseason is fine enough with me.

[Guest]

here you go goony

 

Dan Pompei ‏@danpompei 12m12 minutes ago

Bears also expressing interest in Ravens OC Gary Kubiak for Head coach.

 

also yay

Dan Pompei ‏@danpompei 16m16 minutes ago

Bears are expressing interest in Eric DeCosta of Ravens for GM.

Edited December 31, 2014 by David

[UK1679666180]

It'suotewith that="David"]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Are you surprised?

 

This is the same thing me and WF22 were complaining about. They don't have a football guy at the top, they don't follow a proper chain of command. Phillips and mccaskey have their hand in the cookie jar regardless if Accorsi is there or not.

 

this isn't about them not having a football guy at the top. it's about needing to hire the guy at the top first.

 

Shouldn't that be included in the role of Accorsi to state common sense that the GM should be hired before the HC?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

[Banedon]

here you go goony

 

Dan Pompei ‏@danpompei 12m12 minutes ago

Bears also expressing interest in Ravens OC Gary Kubiak for Head coach.

 

That's not the most exciting Pompei tweet.

 

@danpompei

 

Bears are expressing interest in Eric DeCosta of the Ravens for GM.

 

EDIT: Unfair edit!!!

[minnesotacubsfan]

here you go goony

 

Dan Pompei ‏@danpompei 12m12 minutes ago

Bears also expressing interest in Ravens OC Gary Kubiak for Head coach.

 

also yay

Dan Pompei ‏@danpompei 12m12 minutes ago

Bears also expressing interest in Ravens OC Gary Kubiak for Head coach.

 

[expletive] east coast shmucks

 

 

Jk

[UK1679666180]

After reading Goony's explanation I agree with that.

 

I have no problem with that.

[minnesotacubsfan]

It'suotewith that="David"]

the fact that we're interviewing HC candidates without having a GM is really [expletive] up and pisses me off

 

Are you surprised?

 

This is the same thing me and WF22 were complaining about. They don't have a football guy at the top, they don't follow a proper chain of command. Phillips and mccaskey have their hand in the cookie jar regardless if Accorsi is there or not.

 

this isn't about them not having a football guy at the top. it's about needing to hire the guy at the top first.

 

Shouldn't that be included in the role of Accorsi to state common sense that the GM should be hired before the HC?

 

Yes, but it's the timing issue

[jersey cubs fan]

Shouldn't that be included in the role of Accorsi to state common sense that the GM should be hired before the HC?

 

That is their stated preference yet they left open the possibility that they would do otherwise depending on the HC candidate, which I would bet was a recommendation from Accorsi in the event they got attached to a BIG NAME CELEBRITY COACH.

[UK1679666180]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

 

Because Phillips and mccaskey aren't football guys and their last search firm they brought recommended Emery.

[Banedon]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

There's about a billionty articles explaining this.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

 

Because Phillips and mccaskey aren't football guys and their last search firm they brought recommended Emery.

McCaskeys family OWNS a football team, Phillips has been in the business since like 2000, how are they not football guys?

[Guest]

Shouldn't that be included in the role of Accorsi to state common sense that the GM should be hired before the HC?

 

That is their stated preference yet they left open the possibility that they would do otherwise depending on the HC candidate, which I would bet was a recommendation from Accorsi in the event they got attached to a BIG NAME CELEBRITY COACH.

The caps is what I thought initially but Gase and Bowles don't fit that criteria... I definitely don't care they reach out and do some due diligence, but I don't want the inadvertently choosing their GM based on the prior preference they built up for a HC candidate.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

There's about a billionty articles explaining this.

 

Really? Can you link me a few?

[jersey cubs fan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

In the real world you don't know all the candidates for such a job. There aren't dozens of websites ranking these dudes and talking about their achievements. So you hire consultants to provide you with that list, likely to make initial contact with those candidates to gauge interest and in some cases do a little background digging to make sure there is no funny business reason why you should ignore an otherwise qualified candidate.

 

In football I do not see why it is necessary, but if you are George it is probably prudent to do so.

Edited December 31, 2014 by jersey cubs fan

[Banedon]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

There's about a billionty articles explaining this.

 

Really? Can you link me a few?

 

Um, ok. A google search of "Bears Accorsi" brought this up.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/12/30/gabriel-ernie-accorsi-will-help-bears-find-right-leader/

[jersey cubs fan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

 

Because Phillips and mccaskey aren't football guys and their last search firm they brought recommended Emery.

McCaskeys family OWNS a football team, Phillips has been in the business since like 2000, how are they not football guys?

 

He's been in the business a lot longer than that. He became president in 1999 (or whenever Michael was ousted by Virginia) but he was with the team since the 80s and I think he was Cliff Stein before Cliff Stein was Cliff Stein.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Help me out people with amazing executive search experience, why would you hire a guy like Accorsi?

 

There's about a billionty articles explaining this.

 

Really? Can you link me a few?

 

Um, ok. A google search of "Bears Accorsi" brought this up.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/12/30/gabriel-ernie-accorsi-will-help-bears-find-right-leader/

 

 

You're awesome

 

Eta; sry, I'm not lazy I'm just driving up into the Cascades for the day, so thanks

Edited December 31, 2014 by minnesotacubsfan

[jersey cubs fan]

Shouldn't that be included in the role of Accorsi to state common sense that the GM should be hired before the HC?

 

That is their stated preference yet they left open the possibility that they would do otherwise depending on the HC candidate, which I would bet was a recommendation from Accorsi in the event they got attached to a BIG NAME CELEBRITY COACH.

The caps is what I thought initially but Gase and Bowles don't fit that criteria... I definitely don't care they reach out and do some due diligence, but I don't want the inadvertently choosing their GM based on the prior preference they built up for a HC candidate.

 

I do not believe the timing of interviewing potential HC candidates is at all related to the flexibility reference above.