Week 13: Bears (5-6) @ Lions (7-4) Thu 11:30 AM CT CBS

[WrigleyField 22]

I'd say there's at least 11 teams that they should realistically finish better than. If the over perform, it'll push them down. Highest I think they get is about 7.

 

 

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[rawaction]

I'd say there's at least 11 teams that they should realistically finish better than. If the over perform, it'll push them down. Highest I think they get is about 7.

 

 

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Yeah should be picking between 9-13. Definitely will lose 1-2 more at least and finish 7-9 or 8-8

[WrigleyField 22]

LB I'd pencil Bostic at Will. I'd target a MLB in the draft if possible. Bring back Sharpton who can be insurance at Mike and Sam with a possible rookie and Christian Jones competing for those spots respectively. Shea basically would just be in competition with other ST LBers.

 

I'd try and sign two FA DB starters. A S and CB. I can live with Mundy as a in the box safety who gets subbed out in some passing situations.

 

 

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[Derwood]

If they got a top ten pick, they'd just trade down anyways

[rawaction]

LB I'd pencil Bostic at Will. I'd target a MLB in the draft if possible. Bring back Sharpton who can be insurance at Mike and Sam with a possible rookie and Christian Jones competing for those spots respectively. Shea basically would just be in competition with other ST LBers.

 

I'd try and sign two FA DB starters. A S and CB. I can live with Mundy as a in the box safety who gets subbed out in some passing situations.

 

 

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Id sign and draft a player each at LB and S. Id also add an experienced young CB that can play nickel or move Jennings to nickel.

 

Ideal scenario would be something like: KJ Wright from Seattle. Someone like Jeron Johnson from Seattle or Delmas or another young free agent S. Doesn't have to be a star. Then a Kyle Wilson, Walter Thurmond or Buster Skrine at CB (Thurmond is out with a torn ACL). In the draft, Shaq Thompson and Cody Prewitt or Gerod Holliman and Kendricks with the first 2 picks.

 

Then you can play Wright at MLB, with Jones and Bostic competing at SLB. Thompson Weakside. Shea can be worked in too.

 

At DB, Fuller, Jennings and Skrine are the nickel group while Mundy, Prewitt, Johnson and Vereen compete at S. Id cut Mundy if he doesn't start at SS and sub in whoever is not staying at FS for him in nickel if he is on the team.

[Guest]

If they got a top ten pick, they'd just trade down anyways

 

It's not exactly a strong draft at the top and they have quite a few holes. I actually wouldn't have a problem with that.

[Guest]

So, the Bears need:

 

2 safeties (could get away with 1 if Vereen takes a huge step forward)

2 LBs (could get away with 1 if they get an absolute stud LB somehow)

CB

RT

OC (can't assume DeLaPuente there when he's only played 3 games there and will wind up not playing 1/2 the season)

WR/KR (I don't think it's a big deal, but clearly they want a speedy guy who can return and stretch the field)

 

And that doesn't include depth needed at TE, DL, backup QB.

 

I think DE is a more important need than just "depth" with questions on how good Houston will be when he returns and Allen is aging and middling (has he had a good game against a starter this year besides Matt Kalil who clearly shouldn't be starting?).

Post flu he's been a factor at least. Probably more than any defender, not that it's says much.

Yea I'm willing to keep an optimistic view after he can put some muscle back on- we're stuck with him anyways next year.

 

A dynamic pass rusher is basically a no brainier if available, but if there isn't one I think we can roll with the current DLine group as the back 7 is in much worse shape.

 

 

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Yeah, I'm not saying DE should be a bigger need than the back 7. It appears I think the position is worse off than some of you.

[WrigleyField 22]

The DLine doesn't have a stud. But it's well rounded top to bottom and I think you can run it as a solid unit with active rotations as is.

 

If you felt a true impact DE was there at your spot you take him over bigger needs though. I'm willing to bump Bass off the team and everyone else down a spot, especially since Allen is probably gone after next year, even if he rebounds.

 

If you signed 2-3 FA in the DB, I'd lineup my ideal draft like;

 

Rd1- Best LB or DL

Rd2- Best OL

Rd3- Best DPA (any)

Rd4- Speed WR/KR (Eddie royal/Johnny Knox type could get so many good looks)

Rd6&7- BPA

 

Resign DLP or equivalent C in FA. Resign Paea. Maybe resign Tillman, but don't count on him. If that Rd1 guy is a DL and not a LB you'd have to target another FA LB like Williams. Maybe you do anyways, but you'll probably have to do some creative structuring and leverage some future cap. We're fairly healthy with the cap, but not as much as last year.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

So if the Bears did part with Trestman;

 

Previous HC:

Something I don't think they've ever done. I'll name one O and one D.

 

Jack Del Rio

-oversaw some good teams in Jax even though those teams fell apart at the end of his time there. Those teams did well on O and D. He's probably the most accomplished former HC that's still actively coaching.

 

Hue Jackson

-While he is an offensive coach, I'll be honest his offenses don't necessarily blow me away- and he's never even lasted more than a year as OC. So why mention him? He apparently got a not great Oakland team to overachieve and has a rep as a great players coach. This is about getting a strong leader and trusting his 13 years in the league with multiple teams will lead to strong coordinator hires.

 

Current coordinators:

I'm naming one O and one as again.

 

Defense- Dan Quinn. Even though Carroll runs the show, this is about trying to replicate that Sea Defense. Classic copy cat league move, but if it worked...

 

Offense- I'm going with Seattle again. As much as they've been a success with the D, they've put up strong offenses with a mid round QB developed and not that great receivers. Darrell Bevell also had a decent time with Minn (Favre years). Apparently some don't see him as a HC material and we did pass him over last time. But he has more of a track record than other offensive coordinators that are hot names.

 

Other popular names - Pep Hamilton, Todd Bowles, or two candidates if fired, Jim Harbaugh and Rex Ryan.

 

 

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[SpongeWorthy]

Harbaugh will be available and one of the great metropolises of civilization will punch below its weight class and not land him.

[WrigleyField 22]

Since we've never hired a former HC and we'd still be paying Trestman two years... I won't hold my breath. Seems like a guy willing to sign cheap would be a selling point to the McCaskeys.

 

Maybe times have changed though.

 

 

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[RynoRules]

If they have a top 10 pick you have to take an LT or DE, IMO.

[gscool89]

Colts fans hate Pep Hamilton

[RynoRules]

I'm perplexed by the local media's analysis of the passing game plan yesterday. The Bears' O-Line sucks, especially at RT, G, and arguably C. The Lions have a good D Line, particularly in the middle. So why did they go with short routes the majority of the time yesterday? Gee, I can't imagine...

[UMFan83]

I'm perplexed by the local media's analysis of the passing game plan yesterday. The Bears' O-Line sucks, especially at RT, G, and arguably C. The Lions have a good D Line, particularly in the middle. So why did they go with short routes the majority of the time yesterday? Gee, I can't imagine...

 

Yeah but this isn't the first week the offense has been like this. And I think some of the bitching has been about how this offense with so many weapons and a supposed offensive guru can underachieve so much to the point where the offense has been neutered to survive against a good defense

[JonJayCutler]

Briggs to IR.

 

It's been real, Lance.

[rawaction]

Briggs to IR.

 

It's been real, Lance.

 

Didn't Urlacher go out with a groin injury too? Fitting. I doubt he ever plays another NFL snap. Sad to see him (and Urlacher) go out this way, but its hard to root for an [expletive] who is no longer good.

[Guest]

i don't think you fire Trestman unless you know you can get Harbaugh.

[WrigleyField 22]

i don't think you fire Trestman unless you know you can get Harbaugh.

Why? Are you looking at it from a McCaskey viewpoint or Emery? If I'm Emery I'm thinking surely I can surely do better this time.

 

If I'm McCaskeys I guess I'm thinking I need a splash if I'm gonna pay two coaches for two years. Also to win the Harbaugh sweepstakes against what is likely many other suitors, you may be canning Emery to do so and giving Harbaugh some FO control. Anyone going after Harbaugh is gonna have a truckload of cash so I think FO control would help seal it, otherwise he's gonna just choose whichever roster he likes best.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

I didn't know people wanted Harbaugh. I thought he was generally perceived to be a shaved, screaming ape of some kind.

[Guest]

An ape that can coach football and will satisfy the city's lust for emotion.

[Sammy Sofa]

Hm. He is kind of a perfect storm of factors to placate Chicago meatballs.

[Splendid Splinter]

An ape that can coach football and will satisfy the city's lust for emotion.

 

Don't forget he's an ex-Bears as well. Meatballs love that [expletive].

[WrigleyField 22]

Seriously what will Harbaugh take? 4/30 - 5/40 range? Falcons and Jets likely to make a strong push, not to mention Michigan. It will be fierce competition.

[sneakypower]

he's Michigan's Plan A, B, C and D

 

they probably write him a blank check, basically