Olney: Cubs absolute favorite to land Stanton if he's dealt

[Guest]

this might be an overpay when you consider how big stanton's contract is going to be, but i would honestly give them baez and soler if that's what it took. i love our top 4 as much as anybody else, but there's still the (small) chance that none of the 4 live up to expectations. the injuries with stanton do give me pause (especially since he wouldn't be able to move to 1B without needing to trade rizzo), but his bat is a sure thing. we'd lock in a monster bat for his prime, and we'd still have our top 2 guys.

the list of players i'd trade Soler for is about 1 name long

 

not even bryce?

 

That's a clown question, bro.

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[d_money]

Schwarber cannot be traded until June.

Could he be the PTBL?

[Tryptamine]

Schwarber cannot be traded until June.

Could he be the PTBL?

 

I really doubt it. If the deal was agreed upon in the offseason. The Marlins surely wouldn't want the Cubs playing Schwarber all summer until he was eligible to be traded and I've never heard of a player having to sit out half of the summer due to a trade other than the Ubaldo deal for Pomeranz.

[Guest]

this might be an overpay when you consider how big stanton's contract is going to be, but i would honestly give them baez and soler if that's what it took. i love our top 4 as much as anybody else, but there's still the (small) chance that none of the 4 live up to expectations. the injuries with stanton do give me pause (especially since he wouldn't be able to move to 1B without needing to trade rizzo), but his bat is a sure thing. we'd lock in a monster bat for his prime, and we'd still have our top 2 guys.

the list of players i'd trade Soler for is about 1 name long

 

not even bryce?

 

He's still young, but his stock isn't nearly what it was a couple years ago.

 

it couldn't have fallen very much

[A New Era]

Why would we even trade for Stanton when we already have our own Future Stanton in Soler. And you still get to roll the dice with guys like Baez and Russell. Ok half kidding about Soler, but man does the ball carry on his hits.

 

All I'm saying is, Stanton is a huge investment to be paid with young talent. I'm not against it. I just think we have so much potential that it's very likely one of our very own guys end up a superstar.

[Clem Fandango]

It basically comes down to which hypothetical lineup would you rather have?

 

C Schwarber

1B Rizzo

2B Baez/Castro/Russell

3B Bryant

SS Baez/Castro/Russell

LF Soler

CF Alcantara

RF Stanton

 

(assuming one of Baez/Russell/Castro is used as centepriece for Stanton deal)

 

or

 

C Schwarber

1B Rizzo

2B Baez

3B Castro

SS Russell

LF Bryant

CF Alcantara

RF Soler

 

(assuming the projected positional changes occur)

 

If you're going off promise and future projection, the difference might end up being negligible down the line, but for the immediate future the team is way better with Stanton than without him, even with the missing uber prospect that was dealt to get him. Baez and Russell may wind up being 5+ or 6+ win beasts in the future, but Stanton is that right now. If you can acquire that for pieces that have yet to play a full season in the majors, maybe you should.

[A New Era]

C Schwarber

1B Rizzo

2B Baez or Castro

SS Russell

3B Bryant

RF Soler

CF Almora

LF Mckinney

 

Is my eventual dream line-up (not batting order). Which means you have to trade one of Castro or Baez. But that won't be enough for Stanton I don't think. I know this is all unlikely but that is who I like right now. And it's only to show my feeling we really don't need to trade for Stanton, we are going to have such a stacked line-up any way. I don't think our FO is going to trade for Stanton, but it's nice to talk about I guess.

[davell]

The main reason I'm not falling all over myself for Stanton is simply money. Our payroll may very well be stuck at around 100 mill until after 2019. I'd rather take the chances with what we have(and I like our chances a lot) with the offense we've already got in tow, spending big money on ONE FA SP and using pieces to acquire another good SP via trade. And if you project money out until 2020, unfortunately it's about all we can afford. Stanton is going to be getting 25 mill + after 2016.

 

If I thought we were capable of spending 125 mill prior to 2020, I'd be much more in favor of Stanton.

[Clem Fandango]

C Schwarber

1B Rizzo

2B Baez or Castro

SS Russell

3B Bryant

RF Soler

CF Almora

LF Mckinney

 

Is my eventual dream line-up (not batting order). Which means you have to trade one of Castro or Baez. But that won't be enough for Stanton I don't think. I know this is all unlikely but that is who I like right now. And it's only to show my feeling we really don't need to trade for Stanton, we are going to have such a stacked line-up any way. I don't think our FO is going to trade for Stanton, but it's nice to talk about I guess.

 

I don't think I want to see any lineup that has Almora and McKinney in it if we had an opportunity to replace one of them with Stanton. I like our guys as much as the next person, but you don't pass on Stanton because of a guy like Almora or McKinney. Ever.

 

The main reason I'm not falling all over myself for Stanton is simply money. Our payroll may very well be stuck at around 100 mill until after 2019. I'd rather take the chances with what we have(and I like our chances a lot) with the offense we've already got in tow, spending big money on ONE FA SP and using pieces to acquire another good SP via trade. And if you project money out until 2020, unfortunately it's about all we can afford. Stanton is going to be getting 25 mill + after 2016.

 

If I thought we were capable of spending 125 mill prior to 2020, I'd be much more in favor of Stanton.

 

The general perception is we have roughly $50 mil to spend, right? That's enough room for a Stanton extension and one top FA pitcher as soon as this offseason, is it not? And theoretically, wouldn't the rise in attendance and new advertising additions to the park help increase the payroll little by little over the next couple of seasons? I don't see why we couldn't afford Stanton when all our uber studs are making league minimum

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The general perception is we have roughly $50 mil to spend, right? That's enough room for a Stanton extension and one top FA pitcher as soon as this offseason, is it not? And theoretically, wouldn't the rise in attendance and new advertising additions to the park help increase the payroll little by little over the next couple of seasons? I don't see why we couldn't afford Stanton when all our uber studs are making league minimum

 

They're not all going to be making the minimum for long. And I may be way off here, but based on the comments I've heard, I think they might want to sign two FA pitchers, though not both this offseason.

 

And given that we don't really know how much payroll is going to be available, I think spending it on the areas of most need (i.e. not the offense) first is probably the right thing to do. And I have no reason to say this other than it is my intuition, but I don't think the FO is inclined to go outside of the organization for major offensive pieces, at least until they guys we have are given a shot.

[davell]

I'm thinking the rise in attendance could unfortunately go towards the renovation, as a worst case scenario. Until PTR proves otherwise, I have a hard time upping payroll without a TV deal.

 

And yes, one big FA SP and Stanton is doable, but it doesn't leave room for much else, in my opinion. I think we'll be needing more than one SP addition personally and still don't feel comfortable in dealing one of our big 4, as each of them has the ability to put up as much WAR as him over the next 8-10 years. Not saying each or even any of them do-but they have the ability to and I AM comfortable with each of them being productive long term, just not necessarily at that level.

 

If he's attainable using Starlin and prospects from Almora on down-Im all for it. If not, I truly think we're going to have the best offense in MLB without him and we should focus our available funds on pitching. Again, not trading from the elite guys(or even Starlin, when it comes to pitching)