7/4 stupid cubs (hammel) @ nats (roark) 10:05AM cdt wgn

[davell]

It's entirely possible I misheard or Sutcliffe misrepeated.

 

Either way, it's not serious that we're actually going to do it. It's just fun to pretend.

 

We'll be a playoff team next year. I truly believe that.

[ConstableRabbit]

So... Hammel is complaining about being pulled...

[davell]

So... Hammel is complaining about being pulled...

 

Saw that. Basically said its not Renteria making the call. My guess is he's gone prior to his next start.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's entirely possible I misheard or Sutcliffe misrepeated.

 

Either way, it's not serious that we're actually going to do it. It's just fun to pretend.

 

We'll be a playoff team next year. I truly believe that.

 

I did one of those back-of-the-napkin WAR projections and even if we did literally nothing this offseason I'd have us at 79-83. Even a Theo special offseason of almost nothing would get us to .500, and even I'm not that pessimistic.

 

Actually making the playoffs? Eh, we'll definitely have a decent chance. But a lot can go wrong and it's really easy to have a good team and finish 6th or 7th instead of top-5.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

So... Hammel is complaining about being pulled...

 

Saw that. Basically said its not Renteria making the call. My guess is he's gone prior to his next start.

 

I wonder if the plan for Wada isn't just for him to be the DH guy.

 

:( I'm not ready to start the dismantling yet.

[DiamondMind]

Bryant the Destroyer will be worth at minimum a 5 WAR next year

[davell]

So... Hammel is complaining about being pulled...

 

Saw that. Basically said its not Renteria making the call. My guess is he's gone prior to his next start.

 

I wonder if the plan for Wada isn't just for him to be the DH guy.

 

:( I'm not ready to start the dismantling yet.

 

I honestly think between Wada, Beeler, and Hendricks that over the course of the rest of the season, we won't see a drop off from what Hammel does going forward.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bryant the Destroyer will be worth at minimum a 5 WAR next year

 

I keep going back to Rizzo as an offensive comp. Rizzo was 22/23 in the 2012 season, and he split the year pretty evenly between Iowa and Chicago. He put up an 1.101 OPS in Iowa and .805 in Chicago, and that's roughly in the neighborhood of the drops we've seen from just about everyone graduating from Iowa to Chicago lately (except Junior Lake, for some reason).

 

Bryant turns 23 next January and has an 1.138 OPS with a higher K-rate and much higher BABIP than Rizzo did. He's also had less time as a pro so I think he has more room to improve quickly than Rizzo did, so I kind of want to just call it all a wash and expect an .800 OPS from him in his first year too.

 

With average-ish 3b defense, that's roughly a 3.5-4 win player.

[DiamondMind]

An argument over if Bryant will be a 4 or 5 WAR player in his rookie year sounds like a fun argument to me! I hope we have more of those types of things said as this year and next progresses...."I see Alcantara as a 750 OPS guy" "Nah, more like 810" Edited July 4, 2014 by DiamondMind

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I honestly think between Wada, Beeler, and Hendricks that over the course of the rest of the season, we won't see a drop off from what Hammel does going forward.

 

I really don't like those guys as much as you do. Like *maybe* they can be kind of OK but I wouldn't be surprised if any of them got a Germano-esque shelling either.

[DiamondMind]

Wada is the only one out of that group I'd say that about - he's been pretty good this year, more than a K an inning and 4:1

[jersey cubs fan]

Bryant the Destroyer will be worth at minimum a 5 WAR next year

 

I keep going back to Rizzo as an offensive comp. Rizzo was 22/23 in the 2012 season, and he split the year pretty evenly between Iowa and Chicago. He put up an 1.101 OPS in Iowa and .805 in Chicago, and that's roughly in the neighborhood of the drops we've seen from just about everyone graduating from Iowa to Chicago lately (except Junior Lake, for some reason).

 

Bryant turns 23 next January and has an 1.138 OPS with a higher K-rate and much higher BABIP than Rizzo did. He's also had less time as a pro so I think he has more room to improve quickly than Rizzo did, so I kind of want to just call it all a wash and expect an .800 OPS from him in his first year too.

 

With average-ish 3b defense, that's roughly a 3.5-4 win player.

Bryant also had less cancer, I think.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hammels post game comments make so much more sense now.