Minor League Discussion and Box 4-8-14

[ctcf]

Scheduled Games (All Times Central)

 

Iowa lost 4-1 Box Score

 

CF Szczur 0/4

SS Baez 0/4, 2 K

3B Villanueva 1/3, 2B

SP Rusin 6 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

 

 

Kane County won 4-3 in 12 innings Box Score

 

CF Hannemann 2/5, SB

RF Balaguert 1/5

LF Martin 1/5

SS Penalver 1/5

SP Tseng 5 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 5 K

RP Concepcion 3 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 3 K

 

Tennessee has the day off

Daytona was rained out

 

 

Probable Starters

 

Iowa: LHP Chris Rusin

Daytona: RHP Felix Pena

Kane County: RHP Jen-Ho Tseng

Edited April 9, 2014 by ctcf

[ctcf]

Happy Tseng day, you guys.

[weis21]

Yeah I'm really intrigued to see how Tseng starts out. Didn't somebody (Law?) say they saw Tseng's ceiling as a no. 2? There's already so damn much to feel good about on the minor league front - adding another TOR potential pitcher to the mix would be huge.

[Guest]

Law hated Tseng, it was probably the BP guys where that got thrown around.

[weis21]

Law hated Tseng, it was probably the BP guys where that got thrown around.

No surprise, but you're absolutely right. It was Parks who said ceiling was 2/3 (and that he'd put him in the Cubs top 10 prospects).

[KingCubsFan]

Law hated Tseng, it was probably the BP guys where that got thrown around.

Yeah Parks said he would put Tseng in the Cubs top ten. Law had basically nothing good to say (surprise, surprise).

[imb]

Parks said that after seeing Tseng once, while still riding the high from all the twitter love he was getting from cubs fans over his javier baez posts. let's not start sucking our own popsicles yet.

[KingCubsFan]

Parks said that after seeing Tseng once, while still riding the high from all the twitter love he was getting from cubs fans over his javier baez posts. let's not start sucking our own popsicles yet.

Isn't that how most of these guys base their rankings at this point? Hell, Law will watch a guy once and use that as the basis of his opinion for 2-3 years.

[Guest]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

[Gilby]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

 

Yeah he's looking pretty good with that one. He also never liked Brett Jackson; I'm not sure he ever had him as a top 100 prospect which seemed pretty crazy.

[Guest]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

 

Yeah he's looking pretty good with that one. He also never liked Brett Jackson; I'm not sure he ever had him as a top 100 prospect which seemed pretty crazy.

 

 

Yeah. He did love him some Lee, though, so there's a strike against.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If you hate every prospect, you'll be right against the grain on a very high percentage of them.

[Guest]

If you hate every prospect, you'll be right against the grain on a very high percentage of them.

 

Except he liked our system a lot before it was cool to do so.

[Guest]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

 

His minor league IsoP is still about double Juan Pierre's, so yes, he was.

 

That's the thing that people miss about the Law/Szczur stuff. It's not that he was pessimistic about Szczur, it's the absurd hyperbole he used in trying to talk down to all the idiots he thought beneath him, probably because more casual Cubs fans knew of Szczur with the football angle.

[Guest]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

 

His minor league IsoP is still about double Juan Pierre's, so yes, he was.

 

That's the thing that people miss about the Law/Szczur stuff. It's not that he was pessimistic about Szczur, it's the absurd hyperbole he used in trying to talk down to all the idiots he thought beneath him, probably because more casual Cubs fans knew of Szczur with the football angle.

 

Eh, comparing a guy with no power to a guy with even less power doesn't bother me much as far as hyperbole goes.

[Guest]

Parks/Rubio (BP) and Badler/Norris (BA) saw Tseng the same day and were absolutely in love. Law saw Tseng the next time out and said he looked bad. It's makes sense that they are all accurate; Tseng did go from the top international pitching prospect to barely being in the top 30 to a guy being offered over $1 million by multiple teams in half a year last year because his stuff fluctuated so much.

[Guest]

So Law was totally wrong about Szczur.

 

His minor league IsoP is still about double Juan Pierre's, so yes, he was.

 

That's the thing that people miss about the Law/Szczur stuff. It's not that he was pessimistic about Szczur, it's the absurd hyperbole he used in trying to talk down to all the idiots he thought beneath him, probably because more casual Cubs fans knew of Szczur with the football angle.

 

Eh, comparing a guy with no power to a guy with even less power doesn't bother me much as far as hyperbole goes.

I expect more out of an expert, but that's me.

[gscool89]

Daytona PPD

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Daytona PPD

 

Cue four pages of "ZOMG GUYS WE NEED TO GET TO THE CAROLINA LEAGUE!"

[craig]

Parks/Rubio (BP) and Badler/Norris (BA) saw Tseng the same day and were absolutely in love. Law saw Tseng the next time out and said he looked bad. It's makes sense that they are all accurate; Tseng did go from the top international pitching prospect to barely being in the top 30 to a guy being offered over $1 million by multiple teams in half a year last year because his stuff fluctuated so much.

 

Great point. Guys don't look the same every game, so why shouldn't scouting evaluations fluctuate accordingly? Seems perfectly fair to me.

 

There are a lot of guys who look good at times. If you see Alberto cabrera at his best, or Rosscup, or Marcus Mateo, or Edwin Jackson, or Brett Jackson or Vitters, you can project great things for them.

 

On Law and Cub prospects, another guy he likes very well was Paniagua. We'll see how that one turns out.

[ctcf]

Tseng with an interesting first inning: 3 H, 2 K, and 0 runs

[craig]

After allowing singles to three of first four guys, Tseng now has allowed only one more single through the 4th inning, with 4 K's/0 walks. Only one groundout (other than a bunt). I assume he's done after 4. Nice pro debut.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

After allowing singles to three of first four guys, Tseng now has allowed only one more single through the 4th inning, with 4 K's/0 walks. Only one groundout (other than a bunt). I assume he's done after 4. Nice pro debut.

 

At KC and he's still just 19 right? That is darn impressive.

[CubsWin]

Baez with two 5 pitch outs so far. I can't tell if that's progress for him or not...

[Guest]

Hannemann is 2 for 2 with a SB

 

Villanueva has a double and a K