Midseason Top 30 Prospect Ranking

[Tim]

It's time!

 

I've created a Google Form to allow submissions. Please let me know if you have any issues getting to the form or inputting your response.

 

Let's have plenty of talk here about the prospects and why you ranked them as you did.

 

Thanks!

[Guest]

On the dropdown for each option, I've listed the top 50 list from the offseason, plus the top 10 draft picks. I don't think anyone else would crack the top 30, but if I've left someone off, please let me know.

 

Javier Baez

Jorge Soler

Albert Almora

Arodys Vizcaino

Dan Vogelbach

Brett Jackson

Juan Paniagua

Christian Villanueva

Dillon Maples

Josh Vitters

Pierce Johnson

Junior Lake

Jeimer Candelario

Duane Underwood

Matt Szczur

Arismendy Alcantara

Ronald Torreyes

Marco Hernandez

Gioskar Amaya

Alberto Cabrera

Logan Watkins

Rob Whitenack

Barrett Loux

Ben Wells

Paul Blackburn

Hector Rondon

Starling Peralta

Tony Zych

Jae-Hoon Ha

Trey McNutt

Steve Bruno

Michael Jensen

Trey Martin

Tayler Scott

Jose Arias

Ryan McNeil

Jose Rosario

Shawon Dunston Jr.

Nick Struck

Austin Reed

Reggie Golden

Carlos Penalver

Marcus Hatley

Frandy de la Rosa

Daury Torrez

Kyle Hendricks

Tim Saunders

Willson Contreras

Matt Loosen

Chris Rusin

Kris Bryant

Rob Zastryzny

Jacob Hannemann

Tyler Skulina

Trey Masek

Scott Frazier

David Garner

Sam Wilson

Charcer Burks

Zack Godley

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I had a 15 ready... guess I've got some more work to do.

[Guest]

3-3 so far on Vogelbach as #7.

 

Even more oddly, Hannemann came in at #16, #17 and #17 on the three ballots.

[Rex Buckingham]

3-3 so far on Vogelbach as #7.

 

Even more oddly, Hannemann came in at #16, #17 and #17 on the three ballots.

 

Vogelbach makes sense at 7 since there is a clear top 4 and then Pierce and Alcantara have had such good years they seem to be an easy step above Vogelbach

[Guest]

BTW - you can edit your entries after you submit them.

 

Here's my top 30, though I may yet take advantage of the above.

 

 

1 Baez

2 Soler

3 Bryant

4 Almora

5 Alcantara

6 Johnson

7 Vogelbach

8 Lake

9 Candelario

10 Villanueva

11 Torreyes

12 Underwood

13 vizcaino

14 Szczur

15 Paniagua

16 Hannemann

17 Vitters

18 Watkins

19 Blackburn

20 Contreras

21 Cabrera

22 Ha

23 Dunston

24 Zastryzny

25 Hendricks

26 Jackson

27 Maples

28 Bruno

29 McNeil

30 Torrez

[Little Slide Rooter]

A lot of difficult choices, and in a good way.

 

I'm not going to lie, I'm kind of lost on most of the 2013 picks aside from Bryant. Beyond that, from what I can gather, it goes Skulina, Masek, Z.

 

And not to nitpick, but 1. Isn't Whitenack gone from the system? 2. while neither make my list, wouldn't Jokisch (not listed) be ahead of Loosen (listed)?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

OK, 16-30 was really hard, but I did it.

 

Also, I wanted to put Zach Rosscup at 30.

[Guest]

OK, 16-30 was really hard, but I did it.

 

Also, I wanted to put Zach Rosscup at 30.

Yeah, Rosscup should be an option. Also missing are Geiger & Shoulders.

 

And yes, Whitenack should be gone.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I forgot about Rosscup. Officially bumps out Jackson.

[Guest]

I added those guys, but I actually have no idea how to edit the response I submitted earlier. When I click the link, it has me enter the form fresh.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I added those guys, but I actually have no idea how to edit the response I submitted earlier. When I click the link, it has me enter the form fresh.

 

Yup. I'm thinking that you have to either sign into a Google before submitting or else it becomes an a anonymous submission and you can't get back to it.

[Guest]

We're up to eight submissions. Here's the ranking as of now. I'm giving 30 points for a #1 vote, 29 points for a #2 vote, etc.

 

Javier Baez 236

Albert Almora 229

Jorge Soler 227

Kris Bryant 219

Arismendy Alcantara 206

Pierce Johnson 201

Dan Vogelbach 186

Arodys Vizcaino 146

Jeimer Candelario 132

Juan Paniagua 121

Paul Blackburn 119

Junior Lake 116

Christian Villanueva 113

Matt Szczur 105

Duane Underwood 92

Ronald Torreyes 90

Rob Zastryzny 81

Kyle Hendricks 73

Alberto Cabrera 67

Josh Vitters 58

Jacob Hannemann 57

Dillon Maples 53

Shawon Dunston Jr. 43

Willson Contreras 38

Jae-Hoon Ha 36

Logan Watkins 35

Ben Wells 31

Brett Jackson 21

Marco Hernandez 18

Trey Masek 17

[Guest]

I'm pretty sure you can't edit your submissions even if you're logged in. Google Forms isn't dynamic like that.

[Guest]

I'm pretty sure you can't edit your submissions even if you're logged in. Google Forms isn't dynamic like that.

There's a checkmark at the bottom of the form tool, "Allow responders to edit responses after submitting".

 

However, I think that it only works when you're still on the submit page.

[Guest]

Here's a link to the responses.

[rawaction]

Didn't rank Jackson or Maples in the top 30. Jackson's "Just a guy" now. Maples I never really had a good feeling on. Was rolling along til pick 17. Zastryzny was my #16. After that, who knows what the hell I did.

[Guest]

It's interesting to note that we as a community (and me in particular) rate Szczur higher than Ha, but Ha is the one called up to Iowa at a younger age.

[sneakypower]

my tiered top-30

 

top group is listed comparables for best-case / likely / worst-case career arcs for a player, making the assumption they continue development through to the bigs; i guess best-case & worst-case can be thought of as 20th/80th-percentile forecasts, should they see MLB time

 

it's really just an exercise that helps me decide how i feel about a player

 

1) soler: brian jordan / rondell white / juan encarnacion

2) almora: randy winn / marlon byrd / luis matos

3) baez: adrian beltre / jose hernandez / dale sveum

4) bryant: troy glaus / pat burrell / chad hermansen

5) alcantara: ray durham / felipe lopez / mariano duncan

 

6) p johnson

7) vizcaino

8) candelario

9) vogelbach

10) hendricks

11) torreyes

 

12) villanueva

13) watkins

14) lake

15) paniagua

16) szczur

17) w contreras

18) blackburn

19) j-h ha

 

20) b jackson

21) vitters

22) hannemann

23) amaya

24) underwood

25) rosscup

26) maples

27) a rivero

28) mcnutt

29) zastryzny

30) a cabrera

[pitchcs]

Seriously, why is Josh Vitters in anyone's Top 30?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

It's interesting to note that we as a community (and me in particular) rate Szczur higher than Ha, but Ha is the one called up to Iowa at a younger age.

 

I ranked Ha right behind Szczur. I think they're incredibly similar offensively.

 

No idea about their defense though, because everyone's reports conflict with one another.

 

And crap, I just noticed I put Ben Wells twice. #-o Loux was supposed to be #23.

[Rex Buckingham]

my tiered top-30

 

top group is listed comparables for best-case / likely / worst-case career arcs for a player, making the assumption they continue development through to the bigs; i guess best-case & worst-case can be thought of as 20th/80th-percentile forecasts, should they see MLB time

 

it's really just an exercise that helps me decide how i feel about a player

 

1) soler: brian jordan / rondell white / juan encarnacion

2) almora: randy winn / marlon byrd / luis matos

3) baez: adrian beltre / jose hernandez / dale sveum

4) bryant: troy glaus / pat burrell / chad hermansen

5) alcantara: ray durham / felipe lopez / mariano duncan

 

 

I know that Jordan and Winn were pretty solid pros who had good careers, but I personally see the best-case scenario for Soler and Almora to be better than that... Not sure who I would compare them to, but I just think that is a pessimistic best-case

[Guest]

Just an FYI, Rendon has completed his rookie year eligibility (service time). Not sure if you want to consider him a prospect still.

[Guest]

Just an FYI, Rendon has completed his rookie year eligibility (service time). Not sure if you want to consider him a prospect still.

True...it's a pain to remove the choice, though!

[Guest]

my tiered top-30

 

top group is listed comparables for best-case / likely / worst-case career arcs for a player, making the assumption they continue development through to the bigs; i guess best-case & worst-case can be thought of as 20th/80th-percentile forecasts, should they see MLB time

 

it's really just an exercise that helps me decide how i feel about a player

 

1) soler: brian jordan / rondell white / juan encarnacion

2) almora: randy winn / marlon byrd / luis matos

3) baez: adrian beltre / jose hernandez / dale sveum

4) bryant: troy glaus / pat burrell / chad hermansen

5) alcantara: ray durham / felipe lopez / mariano duncan

 

 

I know that Jordan and Winn were pretty solid pros who had good careers, but I personally see the best-case scenario for Soler and Almora to be better than that... Not sure who I would compare them to, but I just think that is a pessimistic best-case

 

I agree to a certain point. I think Randy Winn is an excellent comparison for Almora's most likely case, but not necessarily for a ceiling. I also think Bryant's comparables are right on.

 

I like Soler's ceiling as prime Andruw Jones at the plate with average to good defense in right.