Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-19-13

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yoanir Negrin pitched 4 innings of relief with 0/4 BB/K. Between him, Mosocoro, and Yeiper Castillo, we've got an intriguing batch of minor league free agent pitchers. I'd be interested in seeing any of them in the big league pen.

 

Maybe Castillo should get to AA first.

 

Or leapfrog to AAA. Wouldn't he be a minor league FA again next year? At 24, he's probably more polished than a lot of the guys that are given a shot via the Rule 5.

 

Negrin and Mosocoro would be in line ahead of him, but my point is that next time we need a reliever called up, we should take a look at one of these guys rather than have Coleman or Dolis rack up another set of frequent flyer miles.

[CubsWin]

Yoanir Negrin pitched 4 innings of relief with 0/4 BB/K. Between him, Mosocoro, and Yeiper Castillo, we've got an intriguing batch of minor league free agent pitchers. I'd be interested in seeing any of them in the big league pen.

 

Maybe Castillo should get to AA first.

 

Or leapfrog to AAA. Wouldn't he be a minor league FA again next year? At 24, he's probably more polished than a lot of the guys that are given a shot via the Rule 5.

 

Negrin and Mosocoro would be in line ahead of him, but my point is that next time we need a reliever called up, we should take a look at one of these guys rather than have Coleman or Dolis rack up another set of frequent flyer miles.

Who would you like to drop from the 40-man roster?

[CubsWin]

he hasn't done anything today, but we're really not showing enough love to Contreras. Looking at the stats coming into today for the minor league hitters, Contreras and Soler have had the best combination of impressive and sustainable starts to their seasons.

 

Assuming he continues, he will probably make the biggest jump on my mid-season prospect list.

Clearly, I cursed his performance today.

 

Damnit, Tim. Someone get Kyle.

No, seriously. This isn't a joke. Someone get Kyle.

 

On Tuesday, May 14th, Alcantara had gone 0-4 and was mired in a terrible slump that had dropped his avg to .234. I commented on how cold he had gotten and asked Kyle to say something negative about him so that he would break out of his slump. He did. A minute later, Alcantara drove in the winning run with a single in the 10th. Since Kyle's comment, Arismendy's gone 8-16 with 3 doubles and HR. He's raised his average 22 points in the last 4 games.

 

In the same thread, Tim asked Kyle to "energy blast" Javier Baez who's avg had fallen to .237. He did. In the 6 games prior to Kyle's comment, Baez had gone 5-25 with 2 runs scored, striking out 9 times with no walks. In the 4 games since, he's gone 7-18 with 5 runs scored, 1 strikeout and 1 walk, raising his avg 18 points.

 

Do we have a...Kyle signal of some kind?

[Guest]

Do you REALLY think we need a Kyle signal?

[seanimal]

and what could be more effective than the "read first unread post" icon?

[CubsWin]

Do you REALLY think we need a Kyle signal?

No, you're right. We probably really don't...

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yoanir Negrin pitched 4 innings of relief with 0/4 BB/K. Between him, Mosocoro, and Yeiper Castillo, we've got an intriguing batch of minor league free agent pitchers. I'd be interested in seeing any of them in the big league pen.

 

Maybe Castillo should get to AA first.

 

Or leapfrog to AAA. Wouldn't he be a minor league FA again next year? At 24, he's probably more polished than a lot of the guys that are given a shot via the Rule 5.

 

Negrin and Mosocoro would be in line ahead of him, but my point is that next time we need a reliever called up, we should take a look at one of these guys rather than have Coleman or Dolis rack up another set of frequent flyer miles.

Who would you like to drop from the 40-man roster?

 

I think there's an extra spot or 2. If not; or even if there is, 1. Camp 2. Rusin 3. Raley 4. McNutt

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The 40-man is at 39, but none of those pitchers belong anywhere near the major leagues.

[Guest]

Yoanir Negrin pitched 4 innings of relief with 0/4 BB/K. Between him, Mosocoro, and Yeiper Castillo, we've got an intriguing batch of minor league free agent pitchers. I'd be interested in seeing any of them in the big league pen.

 

Maybe Castillo should get to AA first.

 

Or leapfrog to AAA. Wouldn't he be a minor league FA again next year? At 24, he's probably more polished than a lot of the guys that are given a shot via the Rule 5.

 

Negrin and Mosocoro would be in line ahead of him, but my point is that next time we need a reliever called up, we should take a look at one of these guys rather than have Coleman or Dolis rack up another set of frequent flyer miles.

Who would you like to drop from the 40-man roster?

 

I think there's an extra spot or 2. If not; or even if there is, 1. Camp 2. Rusin 3. Raley 4. McNutt

 

Rusin and Raley should be far more effective relievers than Moscoso or Negrin.

[Sammy Sofa]

Do we have a...Kyle signal of some kind?

 

Yes, it's the horrible sound the dolphins in The Cove made as they were being savagely beaten and hacked to death.

[Guest]

kyle basically willed the blackhawks to the stanley cup 3 years ago with his posts in the hawks thread, and then he disappeared from that thread forever. so, maybe we should try this out.

[CubsWin]

Maybe Castillo should get to AA first.

 

Or leapfrog to AAA. Wouldn't he be a minor league FA again next year? At 24, he's probably more polished than a lot of the guys that are given a shot via the Rule 5.

 

Negrin and Mosocoro would be in line ahead of him, but my point is that next time we need a reliever called up, we should take a look at one of these guys rather than have Coleman or Dolis rack up another set of frequent flyer miles.

Who would you like to drop from the 40-man roster?

 

I think there's an extra spot or 2. If not; or even if there is, 1. Camp 2. Rusin 3. Raley 4. McNutt

 

Rusin and Raley should be far more effective relievers than Moscoso or Negrin.

And they're southpaws. They are in short supply, especially on the Cubs. I don't see it, SCS.

[CubsWin]

kyle basically willed the blackhawks to the stanley cup 3 years ago with his posts in the hawks thread, and then he disappeared from that thread forever. so, maybe we should try this out.

Well, he did just say that Moscoso, Negrin and Yeiper Castillo shouldn't be anywhere near the major leagues so maybe the Cubs bullpen problems are solved...

[Little Slide Rooter]

To me, it's about trying something new. We pretty much know what we have in Raley and Rusin. We don't know what we have in the other three. Especially if it's September and we're in the position we've been the past 3 Septembers, I'd rather take a look at the new guys. And if it results in us losing all 5, they're all very replaceable.

 

Even in the immediate future , if Camp keeps sucking we should cut him and try Negrin or Mosocoro rather than one of the same guys we bring up over and over.

 

Of our AAA relievers, the only one that could really be more than just a guy at best is Dolis, and even with him, I'm starting to doubt that he'll ever get his command down. Another one I'd be interested in leapfrogging is Rosscup; though I'd also be interested in stretching him back into a starter.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

"Seeing what we have" and "trying something new" is not a valid justification for giving random minor league scrubs major-league spots at any point in any season.

[Guest]

To be entirely fair, Moscoso has something of a major league track record and a non-zero chance of doing ok.

[Little Slide Rooter]

"Seeing what we have" and "trying something new" is not a valid justification for giving random minor league scrubs major-league spots at any point in any season.

 

No, but if the need for a reliever arrises, that's justification. Especially if these guys are putting up impressive numbers and will be minor league free agents again after the season, which I'm assuming they will be. Isn't that the purpose behind signing minor league free agents, especially those that were once fairly well thought of as prospects? I know that Mosocoro was once a somewhat well regarded prospect.

[imb]

Do we have a...Kyle signal of some kind?

 

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[TruffleShuffle]

Yeah we "know what we have" in people like LaHair and Raley because they were given a chance and they sucked, just like everyone told you they would.

[jersey cubs fan]

Isn't that the purpose behind signing minor league free agents,

 

At least some of the purpose, and maybe the primary purpose, is simply to fill out a minor league roster.

[toonsterwu]

I haven't really been following this discussion, but I'm mildly surprised no one brought up Iowa's closer as someone to consider for pen help. The stuff looks to be back for Parker.

[toonsterwu]

Yeah we "know what we have" in people like LaHair and Raley because they were given a chance and they sucked, just like everyone told you they would.

 

Raley should be given at least another look, at least in the pen, before being written off. The AAA numbers have been steady to solid. Although he's not significantly better, he's not exactly JR Mathes in terms of stuff.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yeah we "know what we have" in people like LaHair and Raley because they were given a chance and they sucked, just like everyone told you they would.

 

Apparently the guys in charge of making those decisions agreed with me, so I was in good company.

 

With Raley, I never thought him to be anything special; just a guy who deserved a chance toward the end of the season while we were shoving Coleman, Lopez, Germano, and whomever else they could dig up through a revolving door and calling it a pitching staff.

 

And even the greatest of skeptics we're beginning to be fooled by LaHair for a while there.

[Guest]

Javy is 1-3 with a walk.

 

Soler is 0-3 and done for the day as he got pulled for some reason.

 

please don't be some stupid not running hard thing again.

 

well, if it's that, please don't let the manager be an [expletive] and talk to the local papers and chicago radio about it.

 

He was pulled defensively to start the bottom of the 6th after popping out in the top of the 6th.

So...He likely either hurt himself on that swing or didn't run it out after he popped it up.

 

My money is on the latter.

 

Apparently Soler wasn't feeling well all day on Sunday and that's why he was pulled.