Re: Minor League Assignments

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Wow, I thought Conway had his TJS right before the draft. Didn't except him to be pitching already.

[Guest]

Was not aware Torreyes arrived late at camp. That explains a lot.

[toonsterwu]

Josh Conway throwing 92-94 evidently and almost made KC's rotation. Thats great news. Toonster: Cutting Torreyes? Really? Maybe he's working on his D or whatever, but cutting a 20 year old that has had success in High A+ ball is just an odd comment to make. The fact he showed up to ST very late probably isvplaying into this decision, as someone on TCR pointed out.

 

Dave, I qualified it by saying If they really feel he can't hack it at 2nd. Short of it is, there's no other spot he can really move to where his bat would play, outside of catcher.

 

That said, I did forget that he showed up late at ST, so that makes some sense.

[Guest]

Wow, I thought Conway had his TJS right before the draft. Didn't except him to be pitching already.

 

Conway had his surgery on May 15th of last year.

[toonsterwu]

Just noticed that AzPhil responded. Showed up a week late, regular with Tennessee, was hitting. Wonder if he was a bit out of shape (just a random thought, as AzPhil's comments on his defense are as bad as I've ever heard on him ... ).

[davell]

Toonster, we're going to feud on Torreyes and Marco until one or both have bombed out lol.

[toonsterwu]

Okay, just read AzPhil's comments on Saunders - if his speed is that good (plus), then he is intriguing.

[davell]

Okay, just read AzPhil's comments on Saunders - if his speed is that good (plus), then he is intriguing.

Him and Bruno are both intriguing. Law didn't appear to be a fan of Saunders, based on a " well, he's scrappy" type comment I saw. He's got 15-20 homer type pop, doesn't he?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Wow, I thought Conway had his TJS right before the draft. Didn't except him to be pitching already.

 

Conway had his surgery on May 15th of last year.

 

Wow. If he looked as good as AZPhil mentioned, that's a pretty quick recovery.

[Guest]

Okay, just read AzPhil's comments on Saunders - if his speed is that good (plus), then he is intriguing.

Him and Bruno are both intriguing. Law didn't appear to be a fan of Saunders, based on a " well, he's scrappy" type comment I saw. He's got 15-20 homer type pop, doesn't he?

 

Saunders? I can't fathom him having 20 HR potential.

[craig]

Josh Conway throwing 92-94 evidently and almost made KC's rotation. Thats great news. Toonster: Cutting Torreyes? Really? Maybe he's working on his D or whatever, but cutting a 20 year old that has had success in High A+ ball is just an odd comment to make. The fact he showed up to ST very late probably isvplaying into this decision, as someone on TCR pointed out.

 

Wow on Conway. I wouldn't have expected him to pitch until rehab in rookie league, and wouldn't have expected any 92-94 this summer at all. Crazy. Also "wow" that Rosario could be looking good and cruising. I'd just expected surgery after the report on his injury last year. Pretty nice that he's throwing pretty easily and enough to go multiple innings. That doesn't seem like the extreme rehab route, so great news.

 

Also hadn't heart about Torreyes late, that was a visa problem? How late was he? 2B is an important position. If he can hit and play decent defense, he's a good prospect. Obviously if he can't play defense anywhere, then he's cooked.

 

I'm very disappointed that Jensen is missing. I'm still hoping that Daytona goofed up and he's going to be there after all. But that sounds like injury to me.

 

Last year early on Jensen, Rosario, Wells, and Burke looked like four very interesting prospects at Peoria. Seems all four have been hurt since. Hopefully some or all bounce back strong.

 

Will be very interesting to see how wells looks this year. He was supposed to be the big, strong, durable guy. Hopefully he will be even after the injury.

[toonsterwu]

Toonster, we're going to feud on Torreyes and Marco until one or both have bombed out lol.

 

Huh? What are we feuding about? I would probably make similar comment about a lot of other prospects besides Torreyes. If a guy can't hack it at 2nd, doesn't have a lot of plus tools, didn't have an exemplary previous season, and doesn't project for another position, I'm not exactly too giddy. Scrappy only goes so far, and it's the rare Theriot that makes a decent major league career (a lot more scrappy guys have failed to get up there ... Nate Samson comes to mind ... as a total side note, still remember a report I had on Samson many years ago that suggested he would develop some pop). Again, I qualified it on whether or not he could hack it at 2nd.

 

Torreyes reminds of someone else ... can't think of the name. Former Rockies prospect, I think (or was it Mariners?), undersized guy, was maybe an IF once, moved to catcher, moved to OF, had good bat speed but not much else, and eventually flamed out. I want to say, Angel something or other.

 

And what I've said about Marco for this upcoming season is that (well, I said it once ... somewhere ...)

 

a) I think he could break out or ... (breakout)

 

b) I think he could bomb. (bust)

 

I guess he could fall somewhere in b/w, but honestly, I just don't see that happening. I think it's either good or bad for Marco. Either he figures out the discipline stuff (not enough data points last year to really suggest that he learned just yet) and his tools takeover, or he doesn't. So I won't be all that surprised if he bombs.

[toonsterwu]

Okay, just read AzPhil's comments on Saunders - if his speed is that good (plus), then he is intriguing.

Him and Bruno are both intriguing. Law didn't appear to be a fan of Saunders, based on a " well, he's scrappy" type comment I saw. He's got 15-20 homer type pop, doesn't he?

 

Don't think so. If he does, he's far more intriguing than Bruno ... and maybe even Amaya. I mean, what's the power projection for Amaya - 12-18 basically. I thought it was more 8-12 HR potential for Saunders, but I really don't recall right now.

[davell]

Toonster, all I meant is I'm an unabashed Torreyes guy and you're higher on Marco than I am. Not exactly an epic feud, since we agree on most everything else.

[Guest]

I can't seem to find Matt Loosen on any rosters either.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Loosen should be in Tenn according to him on twitter:

[craig]

Hm, hadn't even noticed Loosen missing. That tweet is back on the 28th, I think, maybe something has come up since.

 

Hopefully nothing significant for Jensen or Loosen. The minor league camp isn't that long, so I suppose even a minor setback might put you behind. Plus, if for whatever reason you're at the back of the rotation schedule, Daytona's fifth game isn't until next Tuesday, and Tennessee's till Monday with a day off on Tuesday. Plus, there are a lot of bad-weather cancellations early on, even in the Southern League. So if perhaps Jensen and Loosen aren't scheduled till next week Tuesday and Monday, and with a rain day maybe Loosen would move back to next Wednesday, perhaps it just makes sense to leave those guys in Mesa.

 

I'd think you'd still list them with the roster, though, even if they aren't moving up with the team. But, I suppose there is also no time like week one where you need a full bullpen. If the starters aren't stretched out enough beyond 70 pitches or less, you've got a lot of innings to fill. So maybe sending an extra reliever along for a week, then sending up Jensen and Loosen when they're going to start is both good for them and also good for the bullpens until then?

 

I hope it's as innocent and sensible as all that, and that neither are hurt.

[toonsterwu]

Honestly, my guess is that they went with the Alcantara/Soto combination in Tennessee not because of Baez potentially moving up, but rather to wait for Torreyes. That seems the most logical reason as to why they would go with someone like Eliot Soto in a key role in AA to start the year. When Torreyes is ready, Mota probably goes on the DL with some phantom injury.

[Guest]

Tennessee's rotation will consist of Alberto Cabrera, Dae-Eun Rhee, Dallas Beeler, Eric Jokisch and Kyle Hendricks.

[Guest]

Honestly, my guess is that they went with the Alcantara/Soto combination in Tennessee not because of Baez potentially moving up, but rather to wait for Torreyes. That seems the most logical reason as to why they would go with someone like Eliot Soto in a key role in AA to start the year. When Torreyes is ready, Mota probably goes on the DL with some phantom injury.

 

Yeah, that seems the most logical explanation.

[toonsterwu]

Tennessee's rotation will consist of Alberto Cabrera, Dae-Eun Rhee, Dallas Beeler, Eric Jokisch and Kyle Hendricks.

 

All the other arms there are pure pen guys at this stage of their careers. I guess there might've been some hope for another look for McNutt.

 

I'm surprised Hatley is back at AA. A part of me would rather drop a AAA filler arm down to AA and give Hatley a look there. Granted, not the biggest deal - he could easily get called up from AA if the need arose.

[craig]

Along with Jensen, Loosen, Burke, and Rosario, Whitenack is another guy who was held back. All five of those were guys I kinda had somewhere in my 25-40 area of my top-50.

 

Toonster, I agree that Torreyes is probably slated for Tennessee after some time in Mesa. I'm sure they hope Baez earns a promotion sooner or later. But nothing imminent there. Performance dictates, of course, so decisions aren't made in March without knowing how he'll do. But I'd guess the hope is that Baez does well enough to merit a June or July move, without any anticipation that April or May promotion is likely. So I don't think his possible future but somewhat remote promotion has much/any impact on what's happening at Tenn. If he comes up in July, and Torreyes and Alcantara are already there, things will take care of themselves. One will be hurt; or one will be struggling badly enough that we don't care; or one can play 3B; or one can get bumped down a level, as happened with Marco last year. It won't be a problem. Or, if it is a problem, it will be a great problem because I'd love to have the "problem" of all three of Baez, Alcantara, and Torreyes having great seasons and looking way too good for Daytona!

[toonsterwu]

craig, I agree (that Baez's future did not impact AA's roster to start the year), I was just noting it because someone here speculated that they left an opening at Tennessee for Baez (which I find an unlikely decision this early ... I think AzPhil also had a similar thought).

 

Wouldn't surprise me if Whitenack is back in XST. Sounds like his arm strength is really down this spring.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Daytona updated their roster: http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=450&stn=true&sid=t450

 

It'll be interesting who starts in the infield besides Baez. DeVoss still listed at 2B and not OF.

[Guest]

Daytona updated their roster: http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=450&stn=true&sid=t450

 

It'll be interesting who starts in the infield besides Baez. DeVoss still listed at 2B and not OF.

I'd guess for the most part you get:

 

1B: Geiger

2B: Saunders

3B: Bruno

SS: Baez

 

With DeVoss floating in the OF & sharing time with Saunders & Bruno (Saunders playing 3B when Bruno sits)