2012 Draft Day Thread + Cubs Picks Discussion

[Guest]

Yeah, I bet this is their thinking. Either Appel takes around slot, or they have two top 10 picks next year in a much better draft. If they dont' sign him, do they get the slot money for next year (meaning they would have slot money for their future top 5 pick, their future #9 pick and their lost pick from this year)?

 

Are you asking if they'd get the slot for #9 twice (this year's missed pick and next year's newly awarded one)? I can't imagine why they would.

[A New Era]

 

Or get the #9 pick in a probable stronger draft next year. So not a big gamble. I keep going back and forth hating the guy for being snotty and greedy and feeling sorry for him because he's the first casualty of the stupid new CBA.

Yeah, I bet this is their thinking. Either Appel takes around slot, or they have two top 10 picks next year in a much better draft. If they dont' sign him, do they get the slot money for next year (meaning they would have slot money for their future top 5 pick, their future #9 pick and their lost pick from this year)?

 

I would hope so otherwise they'd have to split single slot money between 2 first rounders. Just guessing based on logic and reasoning here. Don't know for sure.

[Splendid Splinter]

Just curious... lets say Vibrant last til the 11th round. What will stop teams from drafting him or other players who dropped cuz of signability and offering them $2 mil (alas Maples)??

[Guest]

Bonuses over 100k(or maybe it's 150k) after the 10th round count against the cap.

[Named After Maddux]

Just curious... lets say Vibrant last til the 11th round. What will stop teams from drafting him or other players who dropped cuz of signability and offering them $2 mil (alas Maples)??

 

They can offer that to him, but bonuses over 100K get subtracted from your slot amount. So teams would lose 2 mil from their pool.

[El Duderino]

Another pitcher, haha. Yes.

[Rizzo Smash]

Trey Lang RHP Gateway Community College (AZ)

[cubbyvirus00]

Keep the young arms coming baby!

[Ryno12]

4. Trey Lang, rhp, Gateway (Ariz.): Converted outfielder is still new to pitching but his loose arm pumps fastballs up to 94 mph, slider with potential

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/season-preview/2012/2612881.html

[Tracer Bullet]

At this rate, in 2015, we're going to be using a 17-man pitching staff.

[ctcf]

Hahaha this is kinda awesome

[Guest]

Maybe Appel will be there for the Cubs to take #1 overall next year

 

I'm pretty sure there's gonna be better guys than Appel next year.

 

Definitely. Ryne Stanek missed being eligible for this draft by a week; he would definitely have jumped ahead of Appel, Buxton and Correa this year talent-wise if he were eligible.

[Splendid Splinter]

Just curious... lets say Vibrant last til the 11th round. What will stop teams from drafting him or other players who dropped cuz of signability and offering them $2 mil (alas Maples)??

 

They can offer that to him, but bonuses over 100K get subtracted from your slot amount. So teams would lose 2 mil from their pool.

 

Oh ok. Thanks.

[Guest]

Lang's CC numbers: 31 IP, 31 K, 14 BB, 0.87 ERA, 0.97 WHIP

 

He did not pitch in 2011.

[Guest]

Video of Lang from HS

 

 

Looks like a really big guy

[Guest]

4th rd: Josh Conway, RHP, Coastal Carolina

 

BA rank 208:

 

Conway was on his way to being an early-round pick before leaving a start against Liberty and needing Tommy John surgery. Against the Flames, scouts were buzzing as Conway was sitting 94-96 early with a nasty slider, but he left in the fourth inning and his fastball was down into the high 80s. Signs point to him being a reliever because of his slight, 6-foot, 175-pound frame and inverted elbow, but when he's healthy he has the makings of two plus pitches. He was 4-1, 2.14 with 50 strikeouts and 18 walks in 55 innings.

 

5th rd: Anthony Prieto, LHP, Americas HS (TX) - committed to Howard JC (TX)

 

BA rank: 492

 

Prieto barely pitched in high school until his junior season and joined his first travel team last summer, when he reportedly reached the mid-90s at a tournament in Phoenix. Scouts haven't seen that kind of velocity out of the 5-foot-11, 180-pounder this season, when he missed the first six weeks with a forearm strain. Since returning, Prieto mostly has dealt fastballs at 88-90 mph. Though he's not physical, he generates his heat with an effortless delivery that allows him to throw strikes with three pitches. Both his changeup and curveball show promise. He has signed with Howard (Texas) JC.

 

6th rd: Trey Lang, RHP, Gateway CC (AZ) - committed to New Mexico

 

BA rank: 186

 

Lang played both ways at Skyline High in Mesa, Ariz., and at Northern Illinois before transferring closer to home at Gateway CC. Head coach Rob Shabansky saw Lang as an outfielder with power potential, but when he ran short on pitchers during fall ball asked if Lang wanted to take the mound. His first pitch was clocked at 93 mph, and Shabansky knew that's where Lang belonged. Lang has a sturdy, muscular build at 6-foot-3, 235 pounds, after trimming down from 260 pounds at Northern Illinois. Lang has continued to play both ways for the Geckos and served as their closer this year, so he was sometimes tough for scouts to see. His fastball was in the 92-94 mph range and topped out at 96 at its best, and his slider was a wipeout pitch, but his stuff faded down the stretch. His fastball was in the 87-90 mph range and his slider wasn't as firm. That's understandable given his inexperience on the mound and the fact that he was also spending time in the outfield and at DH. A team that is patient with Lang could wind up with a quality bullpen arm. He is committed to New Mexico but most scouts think he'll sign.

[davell]

So, on BA's top 500 list....

 

Almora-7

Johnson-32

Blackburn-57

Underwood-101

McNeil-185

Conway-208

Prieto-492

Lang-186

[Splendid Splinter]

Definitely. Ryne Stanek missed being eligible for this draft by a week; he would definitely have jumped ahead of Appel, Buxton and Correa this year talent-wise if he were eligible.

 

Dude is a stud. A little bias since I go to Arkansas. I hope Cubs get #1 next year and Stanek improves his junior year.

[davell]

My guess is we're looking at Johnson, Blackburn, Underwood, McNeil, and Conway as starters and Prieto and Lang as relievers?

[Guest]

So, on BA's top 500 list....

 

Almora-7

Johnson-32

Blackburn-57

Underwood-101

McNeil-185

Conway-208

Prieto-492

Lang-186

 

2nd post in this thread has been updated.

[pitchcs]

Video of Lang from HS

 

 

Looks like a really big guy

 

That's one weird video.

[KingCubsFan]

Yeah, I bet this is their thinking. Either Appel takes around slot, or they have two top 10 picks next year in a much better draft. If they dont' sign him, do they get the slot money for next year (meaning they would have slot money for their future top 5 pick, their future #9 pick and their lost pick from this year)?

 

Are you asking if they'd get the slot for #9 twice (this year's missed pick and next year's newly awarded one)? I can't imagine why they would.

It wouldn't make a lot of sense, but most of these new rules don't make sense, and I haven't seen anything about money from a lost pick being carried over.

[Guest]

Yeah, I bet this is their thinking. Either Appel takes around slot, or they have two top 10 picks next year in a much better draft. If they dont' sign him, do they get the slot money for next year (meaning they would have slot money for their future top 5 pick, their future #9 pick and their lost pick from this year)?

 

Are you asking if they'd get the slot for #9 twice (this year's missed pick and next year's newly awarded one)? I can't imagine why they would.

It wouldn't make a lot of sense, but most of these new rules don't make sense, and I haven't seen anything about money from a lost pick being carried over.

 

Money can't be carried over.

 

They'll just have pool money for all the picks they have in '13.

[Guest]

Q. (BASEBALL TRENCHES) Trey Lang was a very solid relief pitcher for you in 2012. He posted a 0.87 ERA 31K’s after 31 innings. He did that in 27 appearances. What made him so successful in that type of role for you guys?

 

A. (COACH SHABANSKY) Trey only had 27 appearances on the mound We knew that Trey would be a great closer for us primarily because of his stuff. His fastball had been up to 97 mph, a dominant slider at 86, and a pretty good change up. With the strength of our starting pitching and the fact that Trey was a middle of the order hitter for us he was most valuable to us in the bullpen. But Trey’s mentality and make up proved to me early on that he would be able to pitch in tough situations and get the job done.

 

Q. (BASEBALL TRENCHES) Trey Lang was also a very good hitter for you. He led your team with 29RBI and had 11 doubles. When he’s not pitching, what other positions does he play? Where do you like him the most?

 

A. (COACH SHABANSKY) Trey was an imposing figure in the box. He has incredible bat speed and showed very good discipline at the plate as well. When he wasn’t pitching he would play right field for us. I like him most and I believe he has a bright future on the mound, but it wouldn’t surprise me if someone drafts him as an outfielder and tries to harness his bat speed and power.

 

Interview with Lang's coach that was posted on PSD

[imb]

Love the Underwood pick.