05/27 COBS (Garza) @ Pirates (Bedard) 12:35 WGN

[Rizzo Smash]

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[UMFan83]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

 

Yeah, they clearly know what they're doing.

[Schwarber Fan]

can you imagine if Garrett Jones played the Cubs every day?

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 0-3 when the opponent hits at least 3 HRs.... 15-28 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Schwarber Fan]

6-0 DEFICIT AND CANNOT THROW A STRIKE

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

 

Yeah, they clearly know what they're doing.

 

Theo and myself do not enjoy this sarcasm.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

 

Yeah, they clearly know what they're doing.

 

Theo and myself do not enjoy this sarcasm.

 

Obviously I'm stewing in my rage right now, but there's really little way to look at the new regime's tenure thus far as anything besides an mitigated disaster. You've got the Rizzo trade and...that's about it. Plenty of time in the coming years for them to turn it around, but as of right now they [expletive] suck.

[gocubs2118]

Just because Theo is building this team the way not a lot of people on here agree with, doesn't mean it's the wrong way. There are multiple ways to rebuild a team. Sure he's taking the long and frustrating route but I'm sure he feels this is the best way to go about it. I still trust that they know what they're doing even though watching this teams sucks ass. Edited May 27, 2012 by gocubs2118

[d_money]

Dolis' body language was horrible - to me, it said "f u" to the team as far as I'm concerned

[Sammy Sofa]

Just because Theo is building this team the way not a lot of people on here agree with, doesn't mean it's the wrong way. There are multiple ways to rebuild a team. Sure he's taking the long and frustrating route but I'm sure he feels this is the best way to go about it.

 

It's not necessarily the wrong way, but it doesn't mean we have to like it. It's inexcusable that a team with the market/resources of the Cubs are fielding this team right now. Fielding a garbage team really doesn't help you all that much when the baseball draft doesn't work like football's or basketball's and it doesn't really give you much in the way of trade-able assets. Ultimately the default is you're just bad almost for the sake of being bad, and that should never be an acceptable outcome. At the pace things are going this year is a failure, pure and simple.

[Irrelevant Dude]

If there was ever any reason to fire a hitting coach, wouldn't this be it? I'm not saying that the Cubs should fire Jaramillo, but this just shows how ridiculous it was to overpay him as much as the Cubs did. If he isn't going to be held responsible for this inept offensive team, then clearly there is no reason to pay him as much as he is making.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

 

Yeah, they clearly know what they're doing.

 

Theo and myself do not enjoy this sarcasm.

 

Obviously I'm stewing in my rage right now, but there's really little way to look at the new regime's tenure thus far as anything besides an mitigated disaster. You've got the Rizzo trade and...that's about it. Plenty of time in the coming years for them to turn it around, but as of right now they [expletive] suck.

 

You're my favorite poster on here. Enjoy your opinions, even when I don't agree with them.

 

I believe you know better than this, and that this is all due to the rage you mention. You know enough about baseball to know that Theo Epstein knows what he is doing. The problem with going through a rebuilding season and tearing something down -- whether people agreed it needed to or not -- is that it's going to be a painful thing to watch.

 

Things will be fine. We have the proper people in charge now. Brighter days are ahead. Within three years, we will be one of the best teams in the National League.

 

To even question Theo or wonder about things right now is ignorant. This wasn't supposed to be a good season. There will be better ones very soon.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 2-13 when the opponent executes a sac bunt.... 13-18 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[manbearcub]

Just because Theo is building this team the way not a lot of people on here agree with, doesn't mean it's the wrong way. There are multiple ways to rebuild a team. Sure he's taking the long and frustrating route but I'm sure he feels this is the best way to go about it.

 

It's not necessarily the wrong way, but it doesn't mean we have to like it. It's inexcusable that a team with the market/resources of the Cubs are fielding this team right now. Fielding a garbage team really doesn't help you all that much when the baseball draft doesn't work like football's or basketball's and it doesn't really give you much in the way of trade-able assets. Ultimately the default is you're just bad almost for the sake of being bad, and that should never be an acceptable outcome. At the pace things are going this year is a failure, pure and simple.

This year was always going to be a failure, so it was out of their control. Even if they signed Fielder and Darvish this team isnt sniffing .500

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 0-15 when they allow 6 runs or more.... 15-16 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Things will feel better when Rizzo, Jackson and Castro are all in the lineup by the end of the season. They might not all dominate, but it will be fun again and the future will seem a heck of a lot brighter.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Last time the CUBS allowed 6 runs in an inning.... Wed 16 May 2012 (6 runs in the 9th inning) in a 9-2 loss to Philadelphia at Wrigley

Last time the CUBS allowed 10 runs in a game.... Sun 15 Apr 2012 in a 10-3 loss at St. Louis

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[cl smooth]

i'm still going to check them out when they come to citi field in early july, but my god is this team tough to watch. :banghead:

[Cubs200079]

I actually like this rebuilding way better.

[Sammy Sofa]

You're my favorite poster on here. Enjoy your opinions, even when I don't agree with them.

 

I believe you know better than this, and that this is all due to the rage you mention. You know enough about baseball to know that Theo Epstein knows what he is doing. The problem with going through a rebuilding season and tearing something down -- whether people agreed it needed to or not -- is that it's going to be a painful thing to watch.

 

Things will be fine. We have the proper people in charge now. Brighter days are ahead. Within three years, we will be one of the best teams in the National League.

 

To even question Theo or wonder about things right now is ignorant. This wasn't supposed to be a good season. There will be better ones very soon.

 

I'm sorry, but just assuming/allowing a season to be bad isn't acceptable. It's like people are hoping that because they're so bad something good must come out of it, but sometimes a team is just bad and it just means you have an even deeper hole to dig out of. Again, it shouldn't ever be necessary for the Cubs to "tear a team down;" contrary to what is often said, it's not as if they're choked by long-term contracts for unproductive players. They have one of those. They're not beholden to the limitations of a small market team like the Royals or the Pirates. They have the luxury of having the option to rebuild AND not put a team of garbage on the field, and they failed to do so. That's not a good thing. The team being good in, say, three seasons and being horrible THIS season are not necessarily on the same path. It's not like it's a sure thing to say, "man, it's great that the Cubs are good in 2016, and it was necessary to be absolutely wretched in 2012 for it to happen!"

 

I mean, really, what is the benefit? How does losing around 100 games put you in a better position to win sooner than losing around 80 games? Draft slots don't make that much of a difference in this game.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Sammy Sofa

[Bryants Disco Ball]

i'm still going to check them out when they come to citi field in early july, but my god is this team tough to watch. :banghead:

 

Agreed. But what's funny is that just about 10 days ago, they were really actually very enjoyable to watch. There will be another stretch like that again this season. Hopefully, it will be by the time you get to watch them.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

You're my favorite poster on here. Enjoy your opinions, even when I don't agree with them.

 

I believe you know better than this, and that this is all due to the rage you mention. You know enough about baseball to know that Theo Epstein knows what he is doing. The problem with going through a rebuilding season and tearing something down -- whether people agreed it needed to or not -- is that it's going to be a painful thing to watch.

 

Things will be fine. We have the proper people in charge now. Brighter days are ahead. Within three years, we will be one of the best teams in the National League.

 

To even question Theo or wonder about things right now is ignorant. This wasn't supposed to be a good season. There will be better ones very soon.

 

I'm sorry, but just assuming/allowing a season to be bad isn't acceptable. It's like people are hoping that because they're so bad something good must come out of it, but sometimes a team is just bad and it just means you have an even deeper hole to dig out of. Again, it shouldn't ever be necessary for the Cubs to "tear a team down;" contrary to what is often said, it's not as if they're choked by long-term contracts for unproductive players. They have one of those. They're not beholden to the limitations of a small market team like the Royals or the Pirates. They have the luxury of having the option to rebuild AND not put a team of garbage on the field, and they failed to do so. That's not a good thing. The team being good in, say, three seasons and being horrible THIS season are not necessarily on the same path.

 

I understand. But doing some things this season to be better might have hurt the longer team goal of sustained success. The hole is not that deep. Theo used this season to see what things could stick and build around the 2012 and 2013 drafts. I believe that the Cubs will spend money this offseason to start filling some of the holes.

 

I know you think it's only Rizzo that they have done well with. But Travis Wood could still present value. LaHair has struggled, but that's still a win. Shark has developed when they gave him a chance to start. At least Ian is good on defense. DeJesus is fun to watch and a solid player.

[cl smooth]

i'm still going to check them out when they come to citi field in early july, but my god is this team tough to watch. :banghead:

 

Agreed. But what's funny is that just about 10 days ago, they were really actually very enjoyable to watch. There will be another stretch like that again this season. Hopefully, it will be by the time you get to watch them.

 

that's what i'm hoping. they had my hopes up before the last game of the cardinals series a few weeks back, but then they proceed to take a never-ending [expletive] for the next two weeks. perhaps i'll be lucky enough to see rizzo in the lineup during that time.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 2-23 when they trail at the end of the 6th inning.... 13-8 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!