05/27 COBS (Garza) @ Pirates (Bedard) 12:35 WGN

[gocubs2118]

Add Cespedes to that list, too. I still think he's going to be worth that 4-year deal.

 

And I have no idea what other moves that could have been made. Something tells me there were some out there when the current reality is fielding the worst team in baseball.

 

I mean, why do we have to excuse this? The front office failed completely and utterly. That doesn't mean they can't succeed down the line and we can't appreciate it, but why try and dress up a turd?

 

I mean, are you pissed because we might lose 100 games instead of 90? Why does that bother you so much?

 

Suck is suck.

 

What did the front office fail at? A three month rebuild in an offseason in which the 2 best players on the market were signed to contracts that a NL team would have to be criminally insane/stupid to sign?

 

Signing guys like Wilson (yes, I'm aware of the deal he took. Did the Cubs try to blow that one out of the water? I doubt it), Darvish and Cespedes would have been significantly building towards the future. God only knows if they'll get Soler. I'm not holding my breath. Again, I wasn't expecting a team that was good so much as one that you'd have more hope towards the near future. I'm sorry, but I don't right now. It's great seeing Shark break out and I can't wait to see Rizzo, but Jackson is extremely dicey. Almost all of the other moves are just these piddling little stopgap/hope and pray options. They're just in a horrible, horrible position right now to be competitive in the near future.

 

That's what Theo has been saying from the get go though. He knew this team wasn't going to be very good for a couple of years and has been trying to tell the fans to have some patience. I'm not saying it's the right route to go but it's not like we should be shocked that they're so bad and will be so bad for however long it takes for Theo to do his thing. They think this is the best way to go about making this team better for the long haul, just have to trust them that they know what they're doing.

[Guest]

 

That's what Theo has been saying from the get go though. He knew this team wasn't going to be very good for a couple of years and has been trying to tell the fans to have some patience. I'm not saying it's the right route to go but it's not like we should be shocked that they're so bad and will be so bad for however long it takes for Theo to do his thing. They think this is the best way to go about making this team better for the long haul, just have to trust them that they know what they're doing.

 

That's not entirely true, but w/e.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 3-28 when they trail at the end of the 8th inning.... 12-3 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Sammy Sofa]

I do trust them over the long haul, but little good for the long haul is coming out of being terrible this year (countdown until someone does something like mention Shark, as if he couldn't have started if they weren't this bad). Being terrible isn't going to net them significantly better drafts than being mediocre would have and they don't have good trade-able assets. Again, being good down the line and being terrible this year aren't automatically related outcomes.

 

And this isn't just being mad at the FO; it's being mad at the Ricketts. Open up the [expletive] pocket books, you bastards. I want this team to be able to spend stupid money along with sexily smart decisions when it comes to drafting and reclamation projects and so on.

Edited May 27, 2012 by Sammy Sofa

[Guest]

Remember when Juan Cruz was the next Pedro?

[Fred Hornkohl]

Last time the CUBS scored 8 runs in an inning.... Sat 21 May 2011 (8 runs in the 8th inning) in a 9-3 win at Boston

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Guest]

I do trust them over the long haul, but little good for the long haul is coming out of being terrible this year (countdown until someone does something like mention Shark, as if he couldn't have started if they weren't this bad). Being terrible isn't going to net them significantly better drafts than being mediocre would have and they don't have good trade-able assets. Again, being good down the line and being terrible this year aren't automatically related outcomes.

 

Isn't it, though?

 

Seems like with the top couple of picks...you can't say can't miss, but you have a much better shot at an elite prospect than you do 15 guys down the line... especially when you can't just spend away signability concerns like before.

 

I mean, you're not drafting a Strasburg or a Prior (ugh) or a Harper with the 16th pick... and I realize those guys don't come around every year, and I also realize that plenty of great players get drafted much later in the draft... but your odds at landing the can't miss type at least seem much better with the top 1 or 2, especially with the new rules.

 

Also, to be honest, I'm not even sure if there is that type of player in the 2013 draft...but I do like the idea of adding another elite player to the system next year on top of Baez, this year's pick, and possibly/probably Soler.

Edited May 27, 2012 by David

[Guest]

Last time the CUBS scored 8 runs in an inning.... Sat 21 May 2011 (8 runs in the 8th inning) in a 9-3 win at Boston

 

 

Go CUBS !!

 

Was Koyie Hill in the lineup?

[Little Slide Rooter]

I'm starting to become irrationally worried that this offensive disaster will make them bring Rizzo up early.

 

Why would they possibly do that? To "save the season"? If anything it makes it less likely.

 

They're not going to do anything to save the season. If anything, they might do something to save dwindling revenue. Even if every single empty seat were already paid for, empty seats don't buy over priced beer, nachos, and bison dogs.

[Rizzo Smash]

12

[El Duderino]

Twins are currently winning, might be able to pick up a game.

[Magnetic Curses]

Oh well, this just means we'll be that much better in a zillion years

[Fred Hornkohl]

There's the dirty dozen.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Last time the CUBS scored 8 runs in an inning.... Sat 21 May 2011 (8 runs in the 8th inning) in a 9-3 win at Boston

 

 

Go CUBS !!

 

Was Koyie Hill in the lineup?

 

As a matter of fact, he was.

[Rizzo Smash]

Twins are currently winning, might be able to pick up a game.

http://i.imgur.com/m7NAR.png

 

Epic battle with the Padres coming up

[Sammy Sofa]

I do trust them over the long haul, but little good for the long haul is coming out of being terrible this year (countdown until someone does something like mention Shark, as if he couldn't have started if they weren't this bad). Being terrible isn't going to net them significantly better drafts than being mediocre would have and they don't have good trade-able assets. Again, being good down the line and being terrible this year aren't automatically related outcomes.

 

Isn't it, though?

 

Seems like with the top couple of picks...you can't say can't miss, but you have a much better shot at an elite prospect than you do 15 guys down the line... especially when you can't just spend away signability concerns like before.

 

I mean, you're not drafting a Strasburg or a Prior (ugh) or a Harper with the 16th pick... and I realize those guys don't come around every year, and I also realize that plenty of great players get drafted much later in the draft... but your odds at landing the can't miss type at least seem much better with the top 1 or 2, especially with the new rules.

 

Also, to be honest, I'm not even sure if there is that type of player in the 2013 draft...but I do like the idea of adding another elite player to the system next year on top of Baez, this year's pick, and possibly/probably Soler.

 

We're just going to have to disagree. The advantage in drafting comes from scouting and player evaluation/development more than where you pick. Unless you have a freak like Harper or Strasburg lurking it's rarely worth tanking just to slide up.

[Guest]

 

We're just going to have to disagree. The advantage in drafting comes from scouting and player evaluation/development more than where you pick. Unless you have a freak like Harper or Strasburg lurking it's rarely worth tanking just to slide up.

 

I don't necessarily disagree. I'm just not sure how much the new rules change that line of thinking. Especially since sucking also means more IFA dollars.

[DiamondMind]

guys I think we might lose 100 by the end of august

[Guest]

guys I think we might lose 100 by the end of august

 

bringing new meaning to the term fun-bad.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

We're just going to have to disagree. The advantage in drafting comes from scouting and player evaluation/development more than where you pick. Unless you have a freak like Harper or Strasburg lurking it's rarely worth tanking just to slide up.

 

I don't necessarily disagree. I'm just not sure how much the new rules change that line of thinking. Especially since sucking also means more IFA dollars.

 

Do you have to be THE worst to have the extra spending available or is an NBA draft-lottery-type deal where, say, the worst 5 teams have increased IFA spending available?

[DiamondMind]

I think the argument could be made that the upcoming draft is the most important situation the cubs have been in since the 08 playoffs.

[El Duderino]

I think the argument could be made that the upcoming draft is the most important situation the cubs have been in since the 08 playoffs.

 

is that 1908 or 2008?

[DiamondMind]

is that 1908 or 2008?

 

http://suetreiman.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/applause6.jpg

 

too bad there's no josh hamilton or bryce harpers available to idiot proof our pick.

[Guest]

 

We're just going to have to disagree. The advantage in drafting comes from scouting and player evaluation/development more than where you pick. Unless you have a freak like Harper or Strasburg lurking it's rarely worth tanking just to slide up.

 

I don't necessarily disagree. I'm just not sure how much the new rules change that line of thinking. Especially since sucking also means more IFA dollars.

 

Do you have to be THE worst to have the extra spending available or is an NBA draft-lottery-type deal where, say, the worst 5 teams have increased IFA spending available?

 

Good question. Raisin?

[Sammy Sofa]

Josh Hamilton was an "idiot-proof" draft pick?