Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[Theo]

haha, so I called Kaplan out on twitter for that. He's still denying it and insisting that Jeffrey was out of shape at the combine

David Kaplan ‏ @thekapman

@ChiBearFanatic No actually I'm not. Read combine reports. They talked about him coming to Indy out of shape. Lost weight for his pro day.

 

Despite the fact it's been documented he was 216 at the combine!

[Guest]

haha, so I called Kaplan out on twitter for that. He's still denying it and insisting that Jeffrey was out of shape at the combine

David Kaplan ‏ @thekapman

@ChiBearFanatic No actually I'm not. Read combine reports. They talked about him coming to Indy out of shape. Lost weight for his pro day.

 

Despite the fact it's been documented he was 216 at the combine!

Send him this

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039

[Magnetic Curses]

haha, so I called Kaplan out on twitter for that. He's still denying it and insisting that Jeffrey was out of shape at the combine

David Kaplan ‏ @thekapman

@ChiBearFanatic No actually I'm not. Read combine reports. They talked about him coming to Indy out of shape. Lost weight for his pro day.

 

Despite the fact it's been documented he was 216 at the combine!

Send him this

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039

 

 

be sure to hashtag #bears or something

[SpongeWorthy]

Can't wait to see Bates and Tice getting Jay out on the edges throwing rockets to Marshall and Alshon. Gonna own.

[rawaction]

Can't wait to see Bates and Tice getting Jay out on the edges throwing rockets to Marshall and Alshon. Gonna own.

 

Yeah, I'm expecting big things. Cutler was on pace for 3700 yards with scrubs at WR last year. Cutler has a great history with Marshall. I'm expecting 90 catches, 1100 yards from him. Cutler has a good rapport with Bennett. Forte will still get his numbers. Throw in an actual talent with Jeffery on the outside and the ability to use the TE for a change, and I'd be mildly disappointed if Cutler doesn't throw for 3800+ yards and I half expect him to crack the 4000 yard mark again.

[Soul]

haha, so I called Kaplan out on twitter for that. He's still denying it and insisting that Jeffrey was out of shape at the combine

David Kaplan ‏ @thekapman

@ChiBearFanatic No actually I'm not. Read combine reports. They talked about him coming to Indy out of shape. Lost weight for his pro day.

 

Despite the fact it's been documented he was 216 at the combine!

Send him this

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039

 

 

be sure to hashtag #bears or something

 

Nah, let him continue to believe he's right. It's more fun when he blurts out something stupid on air.

[Soul]

Can't wait to see Bates and Tice getting Jay out on the edges throwing rockets to Marshall and Alshon. Gonna own.

 

Yeah, I'm expecting big things. Cutler was on pace for 3700 yards with scrubs at WR last year. Cutler has a great history with Marshall. I'm expecting 90 catches, 1100 yards from him. Cutler has a good rapport with Bennett. Forte will still get his numbers. Throw in an actual talent with Jeffery on the outside and the ability to use the TE for a change, and I'd be mildly disappointed if Cutler doesn't throw for 3800+ yards and I half expect him to crack the 4000 yard mark again.

 

I'm expecting 4000+ this year.

[Soul]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/69960956/Sports/Video-Brandon-Marshall-talks-to-students-at-UCAN-Academy

 

A nice interview with Brandon Marshall, where he talks about a number of topics from the allegations in NY, to Cutler then & now.

[SpongeWorthy]

This cracked me up because I'm easily amused:

 

@HenMel: just wanna let everyone know I beat @CoreyWootton in a race today and what's even worst is that he approached me talkin trash #loser

[Banedon]

This article is a little more than a week old, but I don't think I saw it posted here. Football Outsiders breaks down the Bears O-line from the final game of last season.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-bears

[Soul]

This article is a little more than a week old, but I don't think I saw it posted here. Football Outsiders breaks down the Bears O-line from the final game of last season.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-bears

 

Pray for Carimi to be good and stay healthy. We're not going to be good up front in pass blocking, but I'd like to limit it to only 1 or 2 glaring issues, rather than a series of cascading issues with guys slipping into other positions to cover for injuries, which opens up even more problems, etc.

 

I will say that I wish he chose a different game to judge us against.

[rawaction]

This article is a little more than a week old, but I don't think I saw it posted here. Football Outsiders breaks down the Bears O-line from the final game of last season.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-scouting-bears

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. Those were my exact thoughts, not only in the final game...but pretty much all year. Webb gets heat for his feet being slow, but it's really his hands that get him in trouble. Whether it's grabbing or lack of punch. Louis was OK last year, but he looked like a guard playing tackle. Spencer and Edwin had their issues but were OK. Garza was largely overrated because center is such an unnoticeable position. People still thought Kreutz was a respectable player, so Garza being better than that was no accomplishment.

 

If I was creating an OL of the current Bears with the best 5 right now, I'd put: CWilliams, EWilliams, Spencer, Louis, Carimi

 

If I was creating an OL based on potential to be the best group at each position: Webb, C Williams, EWilliams, Louis, Carimi....with James Brown having a real shot at challenging Louis at RG if he shows well in camp.

[ctcf]

It's official - Marshall cleared of all charges due to lack of evidence. Yay.

[Soul]

Now that the possible questions are over, this must be seen as a major coup for our new GM. It certainly appears that we took the right risk and it paid off big time.

[DivineBovine]

LeSean McCoy gets 5/$45 million with 20.765 guaranteed.

 

Arian Foster: 5/43.5/20.75

Marshawn Lynch: 4/31/18

AD: 7/100/36

Chris Johnson: 4/53.5/30

DeAngelo Williams: 5/43/21

 

 

 

So what is Forte worth?

 

He's going to want McCoy and Foster money because DeAngelo Williams got it. But Forte is just not as good as McCoy or Foster. Foster especially.

[rawaction]

LeSean McCoy gets 5/$45 million with 20.765 guaranteed.

 

Arian Foster: 5/43.5/20.75

Marshawn Lynch: 4/31/18

AD: 7/100/36

Chris Johnson: 4/53.5/30

DeAngelo Williams: 5/43/21

 

 

 

So what is Forte worth?

 

He's going to want McCoy and Foster money because DeAngelo Williams got it. But Forte is just not as good as McCoy or Foster. Foster especially.

 

Eh. The only things that Foster really does better than Forte is get into the endzone and handling more of a workload (not necessarily a good thing for a RB).

 

Last 2 years, Foster has averaged 4.694 yards per carry behind one of the best OLs in the league. Forte has averaged 4.695 behind one of the worst OLs in the league. Forte also protects the ball better. Foster does have superior numbers as a receiver the last 2 years, but I still think Forte's a better receiver as the Bears have the ability to get him the ball in more variety of ways.

[WrigleyField 22]

Now that the possible questions are over, this must be seen as a major coup for our new GM. It certainly appears that we took the right risk and it paid off big time.

eh, as long as he misses no more than 6 games it was worth the risk. Anything additional is gravy. I'm assuming this means he won't be suspended, but you never know.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

Forte has averaged 4.695 behind one of the worst OLs in the league.

 

The line's weakness is made up primarily of its inability to protect the QB, more than it's inability to run block. Forte hasn't exactly been Barry Sanders making holes where they are not.

[rawaction]

Forte has averaged 4.695 behind one of the worst OLs in the league.

 

The line's weakness is made up primarily of its inability to protect the QB, more than it's inability to run block. Forte hasn't exactly been Barry Sanders making holes where they are not.

 

Agreed. But Foster has almost been running thru Emmitt Smith holes at times.

[Magnetic Curses]

LeSean McCoy gets 5/$45 million with 20.765 guaranteed.

 

Arian Foster: 5/43.5/20.75

Marshawn Lynch: 4/31/18

AD: 7/100/36

Chris Johnson: 4/53.5/30

DeAngelo Williams: 5/43/21

 

 

 

So what is Forte worth?

 

He's going to want McCoy and Foster money because DeAngelo Williams got it. But Forte is just not as good as McCoy or Foster. Foster especially.

 

there are 2 running backs in the league worth big, guaranteed money, McCoy and Peterson and the rest are just good NFL running backs

[DivineBovine]

It's clear that McCoy's agent looked very carefully at Fosters numbers during the negotiations. I think Foster might've taken less than he could've got and brought the market down a bit. He basically got DeAngelo Williams money.

 

I think a healthy Petersen is clearly the best rb in football. The next tier is Foster, McCoy and Rice. Not sure if Forte belongs there. He's probably close.

 

But maybe I'm too fantasy football oriented with my opinions. LeSean and Rodgers have been my keepers for 2 years.

[rawaction]

It's clear that McCoy's agent looked very carefully at Fosters numbers during the negotiations. I think Foster might've taken less than he could've got and brought the market down a bit. He basically got DeAngelo Williams money.

 

I think a healthy Petersen is clearly the best rb in football. The next tier is Foster, McCoy and Rice. Not sure if Forte belongs there. He's probably close.

 

But maybe I'm too fantasy football oriented with my opinions. LeSean and Rodgers have been my keepers for 2 years.

 

Where's Chris Johnson? Unless you are just a physical freak like Peterson or have enormous big play potential, you're lumped together for me. Peterson, McCoy, and Johnson are top 3 for me because of that. Foster and Rice may be a notch better than Forte, but I don't think it's extremely clear.....though Rice runs circles around both Foster and Forte as a receiver, and those guys are really good receivers.

[Splendid Splinter]

It's clear that McCoy's agent looked very carefully at Fosters numbers during the negotiations. I think Foster might've taken less than he could've got and brought the market down a bit. He basically got DeAngelo Williams money.

 

I think a healthy Petersen is clearly the best rb in football. The next tier is Foster, McCoy and Rice. Not sure if Forte belongs there. He's probably close.

 

But maybe I'm too fantasy football oriented with my opinions. LeSean and Rodgers have been my keepers for 2 years.

 

Where's Chris Johnson? Unless you are just a physical freak like Peterson or have enormous big play potential, you're lumped together for me. Peterson, McCoy, and Johnson are top 3 for me because of that. Foster and Rice may be a notch better than Forte, but I don't think it's extremely clear.....though Rice runs circles around both Foster and Forte as a receiver, and those guys are really good receivers.

 

I would put MJD with Foster/Rice. Forte inability to get short yards and goal line TDs really hurt him against this group of RBs IMO.

[rawaction]

It's clear that McCoy's agent looked very carefully at Fosters numbers during the negotiations. I think Foster might've taken less than he could've got and brought the market down a bit. He basically got DeAngelo Williams money.

 

I think a healthy Petersen is clearly the best rb in football. The next tier is Foster, McCoy and Rice. Not sure if Forte belongs there. He's probably close.

 

But maybe I'm too fantasy football oriented with my opinions. LeSean and Rodgers have been my keepers for 2 years.

 

Where's Chris Johnson? Unless you are just a physical freak like Peterson or have enormous big play potential, you're lumped together for me. Peterson, McCoy, and Johnson are top 3 for me because of that. Foster and Rice may be a notch better than Forte, but I don't think it's extremely clear.....though Rice runs circles around both Foster and Forte as a receiver, and those guys are really good receivers.

 

I would put MJD with Foster/Rice. Forte inability to get short yards and goal line TDs really hurt him against this group of RBs IMO.

 

And that's completely his fault? The Bears have been the worst short yardage team for a couple years now. Houston has been the best, FWIW.

 

Plus, being a good short yardage runner is like being a good bunter. It's a worthless ability to have. Barry Sanders wasn't a good short yardage runner, yet was arguably the best ever. OJ wasn't good in short yardage. Forte not being able to convert short yardage and close TDs is A) on the OL. and B) is just more reason to keep the ball in the best player's hands (Cutler).

[Butterscup1679666578]

Bucs apparently trying to move Winslow. Give Cutler another giant target? Or did we draft a TE? I can't remember.