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He's doing a great job handling the press. Geez ask some [expletive] football questions already....
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But it's an image thing. The NFL has the right to pretty much suspend anybody for being an ass. You do not need a conviction to be suspended by Roger Goodell.

 

yes, but he's walking a thin line if no wrongdoing whatsoever can be proven.

 

courts have blocked his suspensions before.

Have you been paying attention? Big Ben wasn't even charged and he got 4 games.

 

i guess you haven't been reading the string here, ben was essentially suspended for providing alcohol to minors.

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i guess you haven't been reading the string here, ben was essentially suspended for providing alcohol to minors.

 

Don't kid yourself. He was suspended because there were accusations of rape. That may have been what they latched onto in the end, but it was the rape talk that led to the suspension.

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i guess you haven't been reading the string here, ben was essentially suspended for providing alcohol to minors.

 

Don't kid yourself. He was suspended because there were accusations of rape. That may have been what they latched onto in the end, but it was the rape talk that led to the suspension.

 

i'm not disputing that. they could always get him on tax evasion, but if there are no ancillary issues, then there's no way to suspend him.

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is that david haugh still going on this topic?

 

move on already you hacks.

He's fully filled the void now left by Jay Mariotti.

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Roethlisberger is the first player suspended by Goodell under the conduct policy who hasn't been arrested or charged with a crime

 

In addition, Goodell said he listened to recommendations from the quarterback's representatives and took into account information learned by the NFL office regarding the alleged assault.

 

"The Personal Conduct Policy makes clear that I may impose discipline 'even where the conduct does not result in conviction of a crime' as, for example, where the conduct 'imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person,' " Goodell stated in his letter to Roethlisberger.

 

"I recognize that the allegations in Georgia were disputed and that they did not result in criminal charges being filed against you. My decision today is not based on a finding that you violated Georgia law, or on a conclusion that differs from that of the local prosecutor. That said, you are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans."
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Roethlisberger is the first player suspended by Goodell under the conduct policy who hasn't been arrested or charged with a crime

 

In addition, Goodell said he listened to recommendations from the quarterback's representatives and took into account information learned by the NFL office regarding the alleged assault.

 

"The Personal Conduct Policy makes clear that I may impose discipline 'even where the conduct does not result in conviction of a crime' as, for example, where the conduct 'imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person,' " Goodell stated in his letter to Roethlisberger.

 

"I recognize that the allegations in Georgia were disputed and that they did not result in criminal charges being filed against you. My decision today is not based on a finding that you violated Georgia law, or on a conclusion that differs from that of the local prosecutor. That said, you are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league or the expectations of our fans."

 

"As the District Attorney concluded, the extensive investigatory record shows that you contributed to the irresponsible consumption of alcohol by purchasing [or facilitating the purchase of] alcoholic beverages for underage college students, at least some of whom were likely already intoxicated. There is no question that the excessive consumption of alcohol that evening put the students and yourself at risk. The Personal Conduct Policy also states that discipline is appropriate for conduct that 'undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.' By any measure, your conduct satisfies that standard."
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Cutler "Didn't expect to see your smiley faces today"....

 

I love Jay, but he def. can be a douche..lol

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Yeah, as I said, it was part of what they latched onto, but clearly there is no need for a conviction, or any finding that he was the person who provided the booze. If Roger finds that Marshall's actions led to a woman being hit in the eye, even if he didn't do it, he could suspend him given the widespread personal conduct policy available to him. From what we've heard it doesn't seem likely, but the point is there is no need for a conviction for Goodel to suspend somebody.
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Cutler "Didn't expect to see your smiley faces today"....

 

I love Jay, but he def. can be a douche..lol

 

I dont think that was douche jay, that was 'trying to be funny' jay.

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Cutler
"I think he has himself together more than 90 percent of this room."
..I think he's in a bit of douche mode today, that or he really hates the media..lol
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Yeah, as I said, it was part of what they latched onto, but clearly there is no need for a conviction, or any finding that he was the person who provided the booze. If Roger finds that Marshall's actions led to a woman being hit in the eye, even if he didn't do it, he could suspend him given the widespread personal conduct policy available to him. From what we've heard it doesn't seem likely, but the point is there is no need for a conviction for Goodel to suspend somebody.

 

my point is that, regardless of what the letter to Roethlisberger said, it would have been pointless to appeal the suspension in court because Goodell had him providing alcohol to minors.

 

this is a case of Goodell using the fact that Ben was caught in a conundrum to beat his chest in power.

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Yeah, as I said, it was part of what they latched onto, but clearly there is no need for a conviction, or any finding that he was the person who provided the booze. If Roger finds that Marshall's actions led to a woman being hit in the eye, even if he didn't do it, he could suspend him given the widespread personal conduct policy available to him. From what we've heard it doesn't seem likely, but the point is there is no need for a conviction for Goodel to suspend somebody.

 

my point is that, regardless of what the letter to Roethlisberger said, it would have been pointless to appeal the suspension in court because Goodell had him providing alcohol to minors.

 

this is a case of Goodell using the fact that Ben was caught in a conundrum to beat his chest in power.

 

Considering he wasn't charged or convicted of that crime then I'm not sure how Goodell "had him" in any more substantial way than how he's had anybody else who has been suspended.

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Really impressed with Marshall in that interview. Once he settled down he spoke of his condition like a medical doctor who is an expert on the subject. Very genuine. Still don't think he gets out of a suspension from Ginger though....
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Yeah, as I said, it was part of what they latched onto, but clearly there is no need for a conviction, or any finding that he was the person who provided the booze. If Roger finds that Marshall's actions led to a woman being hit in the eye, even if he didn't do it, he could suspend him given the widespread personal conduct policy available to him. From what we've heard it doesn't seem likely, but the point is there is no need for a conviction for Goodel to suspend somebody.

 

my point is that, regardless of what the letter to Roethlisberger said, it would have been pointless to appeal the suspension in court because Goodell had him providing alcohol to minors.

 

this is a case of Goodell using the fact that Ben was caught in a conundrum to beat his chest in power.

 

Considering he wasn't charged or convicted of that crime then I'm not sure how Goodell "had him" in any more substantial way than how he's had anybody else who has been suspended.

 

i believe that he ""had"" an admission of a crime.

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