2011-2012 NBA Season

[CubColtPacer]

Hansbrough upgraded to flagrant 2 but not suspended, Haslem suspended 1 game, Pittman suspended 3 games. Not quite right IMO but much closer than I expected. (I would have given Hansbrough a flagrant 1 since he made a play on the ball, I was iffy on whether to suspend Haslem but probably given him one in the end especially since he got to play in game 5 when he should have been ejected, and Pittman should have had the book thrown at him).

 

Looks like Miami will really go small next game since they basically have Anthony and Turiaf left up front. It sounds like all the Pacers will play, but Granger especially is still pretty hurt and others are somewhat hurt as well. I'm guessing Miami will win because of a big performance from LeBron, but we'll see.

[cubbyvirus00]

If the Spurs stay healthy, they should be able to beat OKC and run right thru anybody coming out of the East.

 

It will be glorious watching Miami break up the big 3.

[cubbyvirus00]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7962438/sources-shaquille-oneal-discuss-gm-opening-orlando-magic

 

 

lol

[Sammy Sofa]

Holy God, please make that happen.

[Ryne Ween]

Wow. They must just be scrapping D12. Anything to get him off TNT works for me.

[Cubswin11]

Holy God, please make that happen.

If it does they need to make a Hardknocks NBA edition following that team with him in charge.

[Pushfrog98]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7962438/sources-shaquille-oneal-discuss-gm-opening-orlando-magic

 

 

lol

If nothing else, he brings great "abs" to the table...

[Banedon]

Holy God, please make that happen.

If it does they need to make a Hardknocks NBA edition following that team with him in charge.

 

You know they essentially did that kind of show with the Nuggets on NBA tv, right?

[Cubswin11]

Holy God, please make that happen.

If it does they need to make a Hardknocks NBA edition following that team with him in charge.

 

You know they essentially did that kind of show with the Nuggets on NBA tv, right?

No, I don't get NBA tv ([expletive] you Charter :club: ). So if he gets the GM job put the Magic with Shaq on whatever their show is called on there for this upcoming season

[cubbyvirus00]

Holy God, please make that happen.

If it does they need to make a Hardknocks NBA edition following that team with him in charge.

 

You know they essentially did that kind of show with the Nuggets on NBA tv, right?

No, I don't get NBA tv ([expletive] you Charter :club: ). So if he gets the GM job put the Magic with Shaq on whatever their show is called on there for this upcoming season

 

The Association

[Ryne Ween]

The only episode thats been good was when everybody cried on the celtics when they traded perk.

[Banedon]

The only episode thats been good was when everybody cried on the celtics when they traded perk.

 

I watched the first one, but and my dvr recorded a bunch more, but eventually some things had to get deleted and it was a victim of apathy.

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[SpongeWorthy]

Danny Granger is a loser.

[UMFan83]

This is definitely vintage Wade tonight. As much as I hate him, I cant help but enjoy this performance just a little bit as a basketball fan. He's beating his man and getting into the lane every single possession.

 

Edit: Of course that just means he's being a little bitch complaining to the refs every single time he gets in the lane whether or not he makes the shot.

[CubColtPacer]

Oh well. Good season Pacers. They played their 2nd best game of the series tonight, but so did the Heat.

 

I so wish the Pacers had money. They could easily have the cap space to add a max level player to this current core (such as Deron Williams), but they don't have the revenue to support a player like that. So they'll probably re-sign Hill and Hibbert and try to add a 3rd big and a scoring guard off the bench instead. That will help because their bench was a huge disappointment all year long, but the real key for them is to still have Paul George get stronger and dribble the ball better in order to effectively use his size and athleticism.

[JimSorgi]

Oh well. Good season Pacers. They played their 2nd best game of the series tonight, but so did the Heat.

 

I so wish the Pacers had money. They could easily have the cap space to add a max level player to this current core (such as Deron Williams), but they don't have the revenue to support a player like that. So they'll probably re-sign Hill and Hibbert and try to add a 3rd big and a scoring guard off the bench instead. That will help because their bench was a huge disappointment all year long, but the real key for them is to still have Paul George get stronger and dribble the ball better in order to effectively use his size and athleticism.

It would be pretty amazing if they could get Williams or Nash. I'd settle for stealing Eric Bledsoe from the Clippers.

[UMFan83]

Oh well. Good season Pacers. They played their 2nd best game of the series tonight, but so did the Heat.

 

I so wish the Pacers had money. They could easily have the cap space to add a max level player to this current core (such as Deron Williams), but they don't have the revenue to support a player like that. So they'll probably re-sign Hill and Hibbert and try to add a 3rd big and a scoring guard off the bench instead. That will help because their bench was a huge disappointment all year long, but the real key for them is to still have Paul George get stronger and dribble the ball better in order to effectively use his size and athleticism.

 

Well it's probably also a problem to get Deron to choose Indiana over the same offer in Brooklyn, Dallas, etc.

 

On a related note, isn't there an ongoing rumor that the Pacers and Eric Gordon have mutual interest. They obviously have the cap space for him but do they have the aforementioned revenue for him?

[CubColtPacer]

Oh well. Good season Pacers. They played their 2nd best game of the series tonight, but so did the Heat.

 

I so wish the Pacers had money. They could easily have the cap space to add a max level player to this current core (such as Deron Williams), but they don't have the revenue to support a player like that. So they'll probably re-sign Hill and Hibbert and try to add a 3rd big and a scoring guard off the bench instead. That will help because their bench was a huge disappointment all year long, but the real key for them is to still have Paul George get stronger and dribble the ball better in order to effectively use his size and athleticism.

 

Well it's probably also a problem to get Deron to choose Indiana over the same offer in Brooklyn, Dallas, etc.

 

On a related note, isn't there an ongoing rumor that the Pacers and Eric Gordon have mutual interest. They obviously have the cap space for him but do they have the aforementioned revenue for him?

 

Well, Deron has at least claimed that he doesn't care about market but just about which roster can help him win a title, and the rumor is that he doesn't like Dallas for that very reason. Indiana with money definitely gives him the best chance for that over the other reasonable options. But I don't know if I believe the lip service, and it doesn't matter anyway since the Pacers don't have the revenue.

 

On Gordon, it would be really hard to get him. One, he's a restricted free agent and the Pacers owner doesn't want them chasing after restricted free agents as a courtesy to the other owners. The Pacers likely won't have the revenue to go max with him (although his would be less than Deron's), and you would have to think New Orleans would match anything less (they might even match a max in desperation). Plus, there's the question of where you play him. They don't really want to trade Granger after the loyalty he's shown the franchise in helping them get through the dark years, and they have too high of hopes for George to trade him.

 

Nash might be a more realistic possibility as the Pacers have the combination of money/title aspirations to woo him, and he will come off the payroll before their money really gets tight. But I don't know how much either side has interest there.

[Sosa21MVP]

There are rumors that Houston is prepared to waaaaaaay over-pay for Hibbert so if they make an outlandish offer, it is possible the Pacers would not match and that could free up some cap room. Not that I particularly want to see Hibbert go but just putting that out there.

 

And screw Miami. :-k

[CubColtPacer]

There are rumors that Houston is prepared to waaaaaaay over-pay for Hibbert so if they make an outlandish offer, it is possible the Pacers would not match and that could free up some cap room. Not that I particularly want to see Hibbert go but just putting that out there.

 

And screw Miami. :-k

 

The salary structure prevents any team from way overpaying for Hibbert. He's probably a 10-11 million type player, and the max salary another team can offer him at his experience level is 12.92 (which with raises ends up as 4 years and around 55 million). I see the Pacers matching even if somebody offers that.

 

Now if somebody decides to overpay Hill, I could definitely see the Pacers letting him go. But I think they will try to retain him if the price doesn't get too outlandish, although I'm not sure if they see him as the starting PG next year or not.

[Cubswin11]

There are rumors that Houston is prepared to waaaaaaay over-pay for Hibbert so if they make an outlandish offer, it is possible the Pacers would not match and that could free up some cap room. Not that I particularly want to see Hibbert go but just putting that out there.

 

And screw Miami. :-k

 

The salary structure prevents any team from way overpaying for Hibbert. He's probably a 10-11 million type player, and the max salary another team can offer him at his experience level is 12.92 (which with raises ends up as 4 years and around 55 million). I see the Pacers matching even if somebody offers that.

 

Now if somebody decides to overpay Hill, I could definitely see the Pacers letting him go. But I think they will try to retain him if the price doesn't get too outlandish, although I'm not sure if they see him as the starting PG next year or not.

I don't know how this works out salary cap wise but what about this three way (assuming sign and trade w/ Hibbert)?

 

Rockets get: Hibbert, Ebanks, A.J Price (or a draft pick)

Pacers get: Gasol, Sessions

Lakers get: Lowry, Scola, and Martin

[bcl412]

This is definitely vintage Wade tonight. As much as I hate him, I cant help but enjoy this performance just a little bit as a basketball fan. He's beating his man and getting into the lane every single possession.

 

 

No matter who it is, there is something beautiful about an NBA superstar taking his game to another level when the stakes are so high.

 

Unless it happens against the Bulls. Then it sucks.

[UMFan83]

Why the heck would the Rockets give up Lowry Scola and Martin and only get back Hibbert and filler? Plus Houston has been salivating over Gasol for years. I can't see a scenario where Houston is involved in a trade for Gasol and not being the ones getting him.

[CubColtPacer]

Why the heck would the Rockets give up Lowry Scola and Martin and only get back Hibbert and filler? Plus Houston has been salivating over Gasol for years. I can't see a scenario where Houston is involved in a trade for Gasol and not being the ones getting him.

 

Gasol's salary is way too high for the Pacers anyway (even though he is a fantastic player), and Sessions is on the same level as Hill/Collison. I think Houston/LA could possibly work out a deal that wouldn't involve the Pacers in this scenario. The Pacers would possibly have interest in one of the Houston PG's, but I can't think of anything they'd want to send out that would be equal value.