Chicago Bulls Playoff Thread

[Andy]

welp, first back to back regular season losses in over a year

According to @KCJHoop it was the second longest streak without two straight losses ever.

[UMFan83]

Sorry the Bulls don't have enough to beat the Heat or the Thunder in a 7 game series. Their only chance of beating the Heat is Lebron wetting the bed. They badly lack athleticism and scoring. The quicker fans and management can come to grips with accepting that reality, the better off the team will be.

 

Awesome.

 

It's going to be "Awesome" when you guys rage after the Heat off the Bulls in the playoffs and you start saying the same things I'm saying now.

 

I'm pretty sure at this point that you want the Bulls/Bears to lose horrifically so that your ridiculous negativity is by pure chance proven correct.

 

I mean seriously the Heat are getting blown out 3 times in the past 10 games with their full roster and that's the team the Bulls can't beat?

[cubbyvirus00]

Sorry the Bulls don't have enough to beat the Heat or the Thunder in a 7 game series. Their only chance of beating the Heat is Lebron wetting the bed. They badly lack athleticism and scoring. The quicker fans and management can come to grips with accepting that reality, the better off the team will be.

 

Awesome.

 

It's going to be "Awesome" when you guys rage after the Heat off the Bulls in the playoffs and you start saying the same things I'm saying now.

 

I'm pretty sure at this point that you want the Bulls/Bears to lose horrifically so that your ridiculous negativity is by pure chance proven correct.

 

I mean seriously the Heat are getting blown out 3 times in the past 10 games with their full roster and that's the team the Bulls can't beat?

 

 

What in the world are you talking about? Take your head out of the clouds. The Heat will bring it come playoff time. The regular season means very little to a team full of seasoned vets, Bosh and two MVP candidates.

 

Meanwhile our team is banged up, has very little to no scoring ability aside from Rose and we're limping to the finish line.

 

How is any of what I said "ridiculous"?

 

And any criticism I have of the Bears is due to the fact that they've neglected both lines in Free Agency. Again not a stretch or a far-fetched criticism.

[UMFan83]

Oh ok, the Heat are just coasting towards the playoffs, and the Bulls are making every game life or death. Got it.

 

I just want to know, what did you specifically see tonight from that Bulls to set you off on this ridiculous rant?

[bcl412]

I'm glad I don't have to watch Bulls games now the rest of the season/playoffs. I guess I'll find something more productive to do with my time.

[bcl412]

Rip played? That actually makes me not really care that they lost.

[SouthSideRyan]

Rip played? That actually makes me not really care that they lost.

 

He was terrible.

[bcl412]

Rip played? That actually makes me not really care that they lost.

 

He was terrible.

 

Not surprised and his stats showed he was but still, I'm happy that he should have time to get into rhythm by the playoffs, that is if he doesn't get hurt again and still can be a productive player on that kind of stage.

[UMFan83]

Rip played? That actually makes me not really care that they lost.

 

He was terrible.

 

Not surprised and his stats showed he was but still, I'm happy that he should have time to get into rhythm by the playoffs, that is if he doesn't get hurt again and still can be a productive player on that kind of stage.

 

He made a ton of lazy ass passes in the game that were stolen out of mid air by Rockets. In one stretch just before halftime he tried to throw a cross court pass that was easily grabbed by a Rocket for an easy layup on the other end, and then immediately after Rip was inbounding and for some reason tried to pass the ball to Lucas who was at half court and must have forgotten that Lucas isnt 6'6'' and overthrew him for another TO that was quickly turned into another 2 points. Ugly.

 

The Bulls for some reason made a lot of lazy cross court passes and almost all of them were picked off by the Rockets. It was like 2009 Jay Cutler was out there trying to desperately get the ball to Greg Olsen.

[Banedon]

I'm hopeful that Rip will play better when Rose is in there, but yeah, the Rip signing appears to have been a pretty huge bust, based on injuries and limited on-court evidence. I hope he proves me wrong.

[Soul]

I'm hopeful that Rip will play better when Rose is in there, but yeah, the Rip signing appears to have been a pretty huge bust, based on injuries and limited on-court evidence. I hope he proves me wrong.

 

Not much else to do but hope he can pull it together for the playoffs. So that's what I'll do.

[Sammy Sofa]

[expletive], I thought next year was the team option.

[Sammy Sofa]

How is any of what I said "ridiculous"?

 

That you think the Bulls can't score without Rose and that you actually think saying they lack "athleticism" like that's a thing is pretty ridiculous. That you think everyone is going to be saying you were right is even more ridiculous.

[Banedon]

Yeah, the Bulls are obviously a much better team with Rose, but they've played great without him (until April rolled around). Without Rose, yeah....the Bulls would be facing a major uphill battle in the playoffs. I don't deny that. But to write off the Bulls in the playoffs right now is ridiculous and nonsensical.

[cubbyvirus00]

How is any of what I said "ridiculous"?

 

That you think the Bulls can't score without Rose and that you actually think saying they lack "athleticism" like that's a thing is pretty ridiculous. That you think everyone is going to be saying you were right is even more ridiculous.

 

The Bulls completely rely on their stiff defense to beat teams. They are not a high scoring team with a number of "go to" options. They have ONE option in Rose that you can rely on. Unless you want to count Boozer backing down a longer athletic player and promptly getting swatted.

 

It's universally known that the Bulls aren't the most athletic of teams when you compare them against the other high seeded teams in the Thunder and Heat. It's an advantage those two teams in particular hold over Chicago at the moment.

 

So here we are, acknowledging that we have to pray for Rose and Rip to be completely healthy for the Bulls to even have a fighting chance against the Heat and you're acting like I'm crazy for thinking that they're going to be destroyed this year.

[Theo]

Before Derrick Rose went down for this extended period, I believe the Bulls were top 10 in offensive efficiency. We are one up in the loss column on the Heat, who haven't had a significant injury all year. Other than Derrick Rose's groin, there is really nothing to worry about. Chill out.

[Sammy Sofa]

So here we are, acknowledging that we have to pray for Rose and Rip to be completely healthy for the Bulls to even have a fighting chance against the Heat

 

What? No. And yes, we're calling you crazy, because you post like a furious lunatic. You're the cynosure of the Bulls and Bears threads.

[Banedon]

The Bulls completely rely on their stiff defense to beat teams. They are not a high scoring team with a number of "go to" options. They have ONE option in Rose that you can rely on. Unless you want to count Boozer backing down a longer athletic player and promptly getting swatted.

 

As of March 31:

 

http://i.imgur.com/8IfaM.jpg

 

Lots more breakdown of the Bulls minus Rose here.... http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/03/31/film-study-scoring-without-rose/

 

I'll agree that late game, go-to times, you need Rose. He'll be absolutely necessary in the playoffs. But to say they aren't a high scoring team and completely rely on their defense isn't exactly accurate. They aren't the HIGHEST scoring team, and they do rely on their defense, but you're making it sound much more lopsided than it truly is.

[cubbyvirus00]

So here we are, acknowledging that we have to pray for Rose and Rip to be completely healthy for the Bulls to even have a fighting chance against the Heat

 

What? No. And yes, we're calling you crazy, because you post like a furious lunatic. You're the cynosure of the Bulls and Bears threads.

 

You have 31k total posts. You're equally the "furious lunatic" I am.

 

So you think that we have a chance without Rose and Rip against the Heat? Do you own a John Lucas jersey or what?

[Sammy Sofa]

You have 31k total posts. You're equally the "furious lunatic" I am.

 

We're not talking about numbers. We're talking about things like this:

 

So you think that we have a chance without Rose and Rip against the Heat? Do you own a John Lucas jersey or what?

 

Why on Earth would you think for a second anyone here is arguing that the Bulls have a real shot at doing anything in the playoffs without both Rose and Hamilton? That's a strawman that's equal parts moronic and crazy.

[Banedon]

Yeah, the craziness started because he wrote off the Bulls having any chance in the playoffs. No mention of "without Rose or Rip". If that's your argument, well duh. But if you were saying they have no chance with Rose and Rip, you're insane.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, the craziness started because he wrote off the Bulls having any chance in the playoffs. No mention of "without Rose or Rip". If that's your argument, well duh. But if you were saying they have no chance with Rose and Rip, you're insane.

 

Right. His declaration was that they were doomed because they didn't have a fallback plan to make them as good as a Bulls team with Rose if Rose went down. His theory also hinged on them not being able to score and not being "athletic." It was meatball-ery at its worst. Nobody is here is saying the Bulls are a perfect team, aren't flawed, and couldn't be better. People are taking issue with his usual histrionics. I mean, at least there's some truth in advertising in that ridiculous sig he has.

[cubbyvirus00]

Yeah, the craziness started because he wrote off the Bulls having any chance in the playoffs. No mention of "without Rose or Rip". If that's your argument, well duh. But if you were saying they have no chance with Rose and Rip, you're insane.

 

Right. His declaration was that they were doomed because they didn't have a fallback plan to make them as good as a Bulls team with Rose if Rose went down. His theory also hinged on them not being able to score and not being "athletic." It was meatball-ery at its worst. Nobody is here is saying the Bulls are a perfect team, aren't flawed, and couldn't be better. People are taking issue with his usual histrionics. I mean, at least there's some truth in advertising in that ridiculous sig he has.

 

Yikes, your pompous arrogance is quite nauseating. A ridiculous sig? What an outrage! SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS. Meatball-ery? How corny.

 

The Bulls have a flawed roster to do battle with the Heat and Thunder. The John Lucas game was fun, but the odds are that won't happen again. If I'm not mistaken, my original thought was even WITH Rose they're completely doomed. With Rip they stand a fighting chance, although at this point Rip looks to be a shell of his former self. (I just read an article of how he felt pain after head faking on his first possession.)

 

So you're free to cling to your big hopes that the result this year will change with the same formula employed last year, the same thing expecting different results (Definition of insanity.) While I stick to my opinion that something needs to change for a different result (Finals appearance).

 

Last year the team was on a roll and Rose was the MVP. This year, not so much. So I guess you can argue that there is a difference between this years team, and last years team. This years team is worse.

[Sammy Sofa]

Ugh. Hysterical arbage like insisting they're "completely doomed" is why nobody takes you seriously. There's also nobody here who wouldn't want to see the Bulls make improvements next season. Just stop acting like a spaz and insisting they have zero chance to beat either the Heat or the Thunder.

[cubbyvirus00]

Ugh. Hysterical arbage like insisting they're "completely doomed" is why nobody takes you seriously. There's also nobody here who wouldn't want to see the Bulls make improvements next season. Just stop acting like a spaz and insisting they have zero chance to beat either the Heat or the Thunder.

 

For the record, which line of thought do you subscribe to? The Bulls have a great chance of beating the Heat? Or the Bulls have a slim chance of beating the Heat?

I've said they have no chance of beating the Heat in a 7 game series as currently constructed.

 

At the very least, you have to respect that I've made my pick and I'll stand by it.