NFL Week 10

[tfarks]

And it's not really cutting Manning if the guy can't play anymore. If he can go, they will stick with him throughout his career. There will absolutely not be a scenario where Manning leaves and plays for another team. Irsay is 1000% behind Manning for life.

 

So then do they trade the picks for as much as possible or keep Luck on the bench? Because spending that much money on a backup QB when your starting QB makes so much is going to make it very difficult to add to that horrible team.

 

I think as soon as they find out Manning can throw again. And gets the feeling back in all his nerves they will fish for the biggest deal they can to stock up picks. And they will want to do that on draft day. They absolutely want to avoid Luck and Manning together. This will not be a Favre/Rodgers situation, Luck will not sit on the bench for 3 years and do nothing. The only way they keep the pick and Luck is come February Manning tells them the therapy didn't work and he still can't throw. Decision is clear, no one's feelings get hurt.

 

And the team isn't horrible with Manning on it. They're really good. Manning is the biggest MVP that ever existed. Well, in football. If they add multiple picks there's no reason they won't be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

Except that brings up another point. The downward spiral of Bill Polian and the unwarranted promotions of Chris Polian. If I'm Irsay, it's time for a new front office before their biggest draft day decision since 98'.

[jersey cubs fan]

And the team isn't horrible with Manning on it. They're really good. Manning is the biggest MVP that ever existed. Well, in football. If they add multiple picks there's no reason they won't be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

They were only 10-6 last year with him and lost at home to a one dimensional Jets team. They have also gotten worse. Given how poorly they have done building around Manning in recent years, and the fact that Manning probably won't be anywhere near his best if he does come back, there are plenty of reasons why they may not be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

[Soul]

Yeah, that's another thing. Manning may very well come back, but at some level less than he was. That makes it more complicated because it probably won't be clear where he's really going to settle in at by draft day. They may know he can come back, but not how good he'll be.

[tfarks]

And the team isn't horrible with Manning on it. They're really good. Manning is the biggest MVP that ever existed. Well, in football. If they add multiple picks there's no reason they won't be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

They were only 10-6 last year with him and lost at home to a one dimensional Jets team. They have also gotten worse. Given how poorly they have done building around Manning in recent years, and the fact that Manning probably won't be anywhere near his best if he does come back, there are plenty of reasons why they may not be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

That was yet another 10 win season, and that one-dimensional Jets team also beat the Patriots and barely missed out on going to the Super Bowl. And they improved their offensive line since then, which was the worst I'd ever seen for Manning. Only masked by his elite ability to get rid of the ball. And like I said, things are contingent on how many picks they can get and what they do with them. If they're just competent with these picks I have zero doubt they're Super Bowl contenders. Didn't say they'd win one, but with Manning they have a good a shot as anybody. They haven't really gotten much worse, which sounds weird to say. There's still the same All-Pro players there that were there for years. Manning is just far and away that damn important.

 

The Polians regression in the draft has really come back to bite them. The only thing to offset that is the return of Manning and a boatload of draft picks. Both of which are possible. But everything certainly isn't rosy, especially with their poor excuse for a head coach.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I've lost track of Manning, what was his neck injury anyway? Was it something he had in college?

[tfarks]

Yeah, that's another thing. Manning may very well come back, but at some level less than he was. That makes it more complicated because it probably won't be clear where he's really going to settle in at by draft day. They may know he can come back, but not how good he'll be.

 

Yeah true. That's a big risk and they're gonna have to roll the dice. One positive precursor, Manning's arm strength was never his elite tool, it's always been his accuracy and intelligence.

[jersey cubs fan]

That was yet another 10 win season,

 

Yeah, they had a nice run, but it was the fewest wins in 8 years. They were already looking like a lesser team than the real contending Colts squads of the past decade.

[tfarks]

That was yet another 10 win season,

 

Yeah, they had a nice run, but it was the fewest wins in 8 years. They were already looking like a lesser team than the real contending Colts squads of the past decade.

 

Yes but I can't think of a better way to restock a team then having the ability to trade away a #1 pick. I mean, how many times has it even been done?

 

This is a very fortunate opportunity for the Colts to get this. But a lot of other things do have to go right. It will be very interesting to see play out.

[Guest]

And the team isn't horrible with Manning on it. They're really good. Manning is the biggest MVP that ever existed. Well, in football. If they add multiple picks there's no reason they won't be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

They were only 10-6 last year with him and lost at home to a one dimensional Jets team. They have also gotten worse. Given how poorly they have done building around Manning in recent years, and the fact that Manning probably won't be anywhere near his best if he does come back, there are plenty of reasons why they may not be Super Bowl contenders for the next 4 years.

 

That was yet another 10 win season, and that one-dimensional Jets team also beat the Patriots and barely missed out on going to the Super Bowl. And they improved their offensive line since then, which was the worst I'd ever seen for Manning. Only masked by his elite ability to get rid of the ball. And like I said, things are contingent on how many picks they can get and what they do with them. If they're just competent with these picks I have zero doubt they're Super Bowl contenders. Didn't say they'd win one, but with Manning they have a good a shot as anybody. They haven't really gotten much worse, which sounds weird to say. There's still the same All-Pro players there that were there for years. Manning is just far and away that damn important.

 

The Polians regression in the draft has really come back to bite them. The only thing to offset that is the return of Manning and a boatload of draft picks. Both of which are possible. But everything certainly isn't rosy, especially with their poor excuse for a head coach.

They've got a lot of age on that team. That's a big reason they looked like they were declining last year, too.

[bukie]

The most similar situation to the Manning ordeal was when the 49ers were ready to move on from Montana to Young. It took several years, but eventually they traded Montana to the Chiefs. The best case scenario for the Colts is to get Luck and trade Manning while his value is as high as possible to a team desperately in need of a quick fix at QB (49ers? Seahawks? Cards? Raiders? Chiefs?)

[jersey cubs fan]

The most similar situation to the Manning ordeal was when the 49ers were ready to move on from Montana to Young. It took several years, but eventually they traded Montana to the Chiefs. The best case scenario for the Colts is to get Luck and trade Manning while his value is as high as possible to a team desperately in need of a quick fix at QB (49ers? Seahawks? Cards? Raiders? Chiefs?)

 

They are pretty different scenarios. Young was already in house on an elite team when Montana went down.

 

Trading Manning is a near impossibility with his contract.

[tfarks]

Age is certainly a factor they have to deal with. Most of all Manning. But I think the re-invigoration of a team that just wasted a season will be a factor as well. And all the new young guys that will be coming in.

 

Just looking at the offensive side of the ball. What's really changed? Being a year older? The o-line has gotten younger and better and they can run the ball finally.

 

If Manning comes back as Manning, and with the extra picks they get, there's a much higher chance for success than failure. IMO.

[jersey cubs fan]

If Manning comes back as Manning, and with the extra picks they get, there's a much higher chance for success than failure. IMO.

 

Yeah, chances are they won't go 6-10, but that's not the point.

[tfarks]

If Manning comes back as Manning, and with the extra picks they get, there's a much higher chance for success than failure. IMO.

 

Yeah, chances are they won't go 6-10, but that's not the point.

 

No, chances are they will be Super Bowl contenders again. And that is the point.

[imb]

If Manning comes back as Manning, and with the extra picks they get, there's a much higher chance for success than failure. IMO.

 

Yeah, chances are they won't go 6-10, but that's not the point.

 

No, chances are they will be Super Bowl contenders again. And that is the point.

 

Definitely not. Part of the problem in Indy is that they've proven they're shitty drafters.

[Theo]

Indy is so bad at drafting, I mean they drafted two running backs in the first round, Addai and Donal Brown, and neither are worth a damn.

[tfarks]

If Manning comes back as Manning, and with the extra picks they get, there's a much higher chance for success than failure. IMO.

 

Yeah, chances are they won't go 6-10, but that's not the point.

 

No, chances are they will be Super Bowl contenders again. And that is the point.

 

Definitely not. Part of the problem in Indy is that they've proven they're [expletive] drafters.

 

I don't like what the Polians have done lately either, and would like to see them go. But Bill was also there when they drafted as well as anybody from 98-06. I don't think this situation is that hard. Their 2011 draft was actually good. They have 2 starters for their OL and a DT and RB who have both contributed well all season. With 5 total picks. They had an extremely poor run that's haunting them. But to say the 2012 draft has no shot at restoring their status in the AFC is willfully ignorant.

 

That being said, can't be too comfortable while Chris Polian is calling shots. He truly needs to go.

[jersey cubs fan]

I can only assume Drew will have fun with this one on KSK:

Mr. Starwood Preferred Member Travel Note of the Week

Walking down Second Avenue in Manhattan about 11:30 Sunday morning, I noticed three 25ish people walked toward me. A woman was flanked by a man in a black Maurkice Pouncey Steelers jersey and a man in a black Hines Ward Steelers jersey. They seemed to be in search of a Steelers bar to watch the Pittsburgh-Cincinnati game. The guy in the Ward jersey was singing, "Here we go, here we go, Pittsburgh's goin' to the Super Bowl.''

 

If you've been in Pittsburgh to see the Steelers, you know exactly what that song is.

 

Only in New York, kids. Only in New York.

(In the immortal words of Cindy Adams.)

 

Yeah, only in New York would there be three Steelers fans going to a Steelers bar an hour and a half before gametime. What the hell Peter? You see Steelers fans and Steelers bars in every city.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/belichick_mocks_NttHuMbgQETsHT03ogwp3J

 

belichik getting kinky with his son

[minnesotacubsfan]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/belichick_mocks_NttHuMbgQETsHT03ogwp3J

 

belichik getting kinky with his son

 

Belichick was asked about the comment this morning on WFAN.

"Any conversations I had privately I'll keep private," he said.

 

 

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/belichick_mocks_NttHuMbgQETsHT03ogwp3J#ixzz1dhQ70Eey

 

in the wake of the whole Penn State thing, looks like he will try and keep this on the "down low"...

[jersey cubs fan]

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/peter-king-thinks-the-psu-scandal-is-awfully-aaron-boone-ish.html#more-41335

 

Peter's Boston obsession starts early.

The 3-6 Eagles have been to fourth quarters what John Lackey is to baseball free agency.

 

OH MY [censor] GOD, REALLY? Not wasting any time this week, are you? In other news, the Falcons Bucknered their chance at a Keith Foulke moment by totally Grady Littling their game against their NFC South Yankees. OH HOW I LOATHE YOU.

[jersey cubs fan]

Through nine games, the Niners haven’t allowed a rushing touchdown. Think of that.

 

IMAGINE it. VISUALIZE it in your mind.

 

Imagine some of the playoff matchups. Niners against Matt Forte. Niners against Michael Turner … or the Niners shutting down Green Bay’s run…

 

Everyone can shut down Green Bay’s run.

 

…and making Aaron Rodgers throw it 45 times.

 

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the Packers wouldn’t be alarmed by such things. Oh noes! You mean we have to count on our Super Bowl MVP quarterback, who is currently having one of the greatest seasons ever, to win the game for us? [fornicate]

[bukie]

According to this week's Sagarin ratings, the NFC now has the NFL's top 5 teams overall in Green Bay, San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago and New Orleans.

[Guest]

Watching Atlanta from the beginning of overtime, one has to wonder what in the heck they were thinking. It was like they were still in the hurry up offense when there was a fresh new clock. On the first possession, 3 straight passes when Turner has already racked up close to 100 yards for the game rushing. Did Atlanta believe the Saints were still playing prevent defense? Whatever. Glad they lost.

 

How in the world does an NFL team win a game with 2 completed passes for the entire game? Is that a new record? I know there was a time when the pass was pretty rare and I know weather has made the pass somewhat of a poor percentage play in a game, but 2 pass completions is simply amazing in this day and age.

[jersey cubs fan]

How in the world does an NFL team win a game with 2 completed passes for the entire game? Is that a new record?

 

Play in the AFC West.