Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[Hollandsworths mug]

Scott Miller 8:31PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270335/32835910

 

The Red Sox-Cubs soap opera spins forward as the clubs haggle over compensation, but the general parameters of a deal that will affect three clubs are in place, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the negotiations:

 

Not only will Theo Epstein take control of the Cubs, he will take Padres general manager Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod, one of Hoyer's assistant general managers in San Diego, with him. Josh Byrnes, the former Arizona general manager who currently is San Diego's senior vice-president for baseball operations, will replace Hoyer as the new Padres' GM. Ben Cherington, Epstein's top assistant, will succeed him as GM in Boston.

 

While Epstein will receive a five-year deal worth $18.5 million, Hoyer, likewise, is expected to receive a five-year contract with a significant bump in pay from his current salary as incentive to move. Hoyer currently is signed with the Padres through 2013, with and the club holds an option on him for 2014.

 

While Epstein would hold a presidency role, it would be a lateral move for Hoyer. However, he would be reunited with his very close friend, Epstein, and he would have large-market resources at his disposal.

 

The deal could be announced as early as Friday, though one source says that "a lot would have to happen" for everything to be put in place by then. As of late Thursday, particularly with Boston still holding up the Epstein part of the deal over steep compensation demands from the Cubs, it seemed realistic that these talks could spill into next week before things are finalized.

 

As of early Thursday evening, the Cubs had neither asked permission from Major League Baseball to hold a news conference on Friday, a World Series off day, nor had they asked permission from the Padres to speak with Hoyer.

 

Compensation issues are not limited to the Cubs and Red Sox in this elaborate game of executive hopscotch, either. Not only will the Cubs pay Boston for the right to take Epstein -- either financially or via players -- the Padres also are expected to be compensated by the Cubs for allowing Hoyer to break his contract.

[toonsterwu]

RT @ScottMCBSSports: Source: "Lot would have to happen" for Cubs/Theo to be announced tomorrow. Could happen, though. Hoyer will get 5-year deal, like Theo.

 

Theo and Hoyer will get 5-yr deals from #Cubs. Jason McLeod to leave #Padres and join them. Josh Byrnes will become new GM of Padres

 

#Cubs not only will compensate #Red Sox for Theo, #Padres will receive comp from Cubs for Hoyer/McLeon. Likely two lower level minor lgrs

 

That's fair. We're taking 2 of their top executives, so giving the Padres comp is certainly justifiable. Considering how well they've scouted of late, they'll probably do a good job picking from our lower levels, which have a fair amount of talent to pick from.

[Laura]

WEEI

 

With the Red Sox and Cubs struggling to see eye-to-eye on a compensation agreement that would permit Sox GM Theo Epstein to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig suggested that he may have to mediate the matter to achieve a resolution. The Commissioner addressed the matter on SiriusXM's Mad Dog Radio prior to Game 2 of the World Series.

 

Asked if he was expecting that he would have to serve as an arbitrator between the Red Sox and Cubs regarding compensation that the Sox might receive for the departure of GM Theo Epstein, who has an agreement to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Selig left the door open.

 

"It is a possibility," Selig told host Chris Russo. "No question, it is a possibility."

[EpsteinCubs]

Doesn't look like Theo will be introduced tomorrow.

[Hollandsworths mug]

WEEI

 

With the Red Sox and Cubs struggling to see eye-to-eye on a compensation agreement that would permit Sox GM Theo Epstein to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig suggested that he may have to mediate the matter to achieve a resolution. The Commissioner addressed the matter on SiriusXM's Mad Dog Radio prior to Game 2 of the World Series.

 

Asked if he was expecting that he would have to serve as an arbitrator between the Red Sox and Cubs regarding compensation that the Sox might receive for the departure of GM Theo Epstein, who has an agreement to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Selig left the door open.

 

"It is a possibility," Selig told host Chris Russo. "No question, it is a possibility."

 

Wow, Laura! It appears ol Bud has had enough of this garbage that the Red Sox are dishing out. Good to hear but this was an obvious bullet fired at Henry and Luchino to [expletive] or get off the pot.

[MWV]

...or at Ricketts to offer better compensation. We won't really know until Selig actually gets involved.

[EpsteinCubs]

Now that Selig said he's going to get involved if he has to, we should probably holdout until he does get involved.

[Brian]

...or at Ricketts to offer better compensation. We won't really know until Selig actually gets involved.

 

I highly doubt Selig is going to want to up the value of executives.

[MWV]

...or at Ricketts to offer better compensation. We won't really know until Selig actually gets involved.

 

I highly doubt Selig is going to want to up the value of executives.

 

Yeah, I doubt his involvement would be deleterious to the Cubs interests, but there's not a lot to draw inference from at present.

[Magnetic Curses]

when i said selig would get involved and tell the red sox whom they were allowed to take, david said huh?

[minnesotacubsfan]

huh?

[Vinestal]

WEEI

 

With the Red Sox and Cubs struggling to see eye-to-eye on a compensation agreement that would permit Sox GM Theo Epstein to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig suggested that he may have to mediate the matter to achieve a resolution. The Commissioner addressed the matter on SiriusXM's Mad Dog Radio prior to Game 2 of the World Series.

 

Asked if he was expecting that he would have to serve as an arbitrator between the Red Sox and Cubs regarding compensation that the Sox might receive for the departure of GM Theo Epstein, who has an agreement to become the president of baseball operations in Chicago, Selig left the door open.

 

"It is a possibility," Selig told host Chris Russo. "No question, it is a possibility."

 

That's good the sooner the better in my mind, otherwise RedSox will drag this on forever.

[Guest]

when i said selig would get involved and tell the red sox whom they were allowed to take, david said huh?

 

huh?

[Guest]

The Cubs' new front office tag team has yet to become official, but no one was denying the Epstein-Hoyer show is coming soon to a baseball shrine near you.

 

In the vision of Cubs Chairman Tom Ricketts, the two Red Sox Nation expatriates will become the Cubs' version of "Butch and Sundance," taking risks, outsmarting rivals and bringing lasting change to an old school franchise mired in a century-long rut. Of course, things didn't end well for the brash outlaws.

 

Though Ricketts famously said last June he didn't need "a baseball guy to watch my baseball guy who's watching your baseball guys," Ricketts apparently changed his mind and decided two guys were better than one.

 

Speculation over when Epstein will be announced officially as head of baseball operations became a hot topic of debate Thursday, as the Cubs prepared for the possibility of a Friday news conference in case a deal could be announced.

 

But Red Sox owner John Henry, perturbed the Cubs seemingly were leaking news the deal was done before it was, texted the Boston Glove it was "not close."

 

Ricketts is making himself unavailable for comment, and is not reputed to be much of a texter anyway. But whether it was a text, a tweet or any other form of communication, no one disputed the notion "Theo and Jed'' are Wrigley-bound in the near future.

 

Whenever it ends, the Epstein-to-Cubs saga will go down as one of the more fascinating front office searches in club history. It began on Oct. 1, when New York Post columnist Joel Sherman tweeted: "I am shocked, but in last 36 hrs, every exec talk to says believe Red Sox will give permission and Theo will go to Cubs to be GM."

 

Few in Boston believed Epstein would leave after the epic Red Sox collapse, but he eventually met with Cubs' executives on an unseasonably warm and sun-splashed Oct. 8.

 

The Cubs quickly struck a five-year deal with Epstein reportedly worth $18.5 million, then began compensation talks with the Red Sox. The rest of the story is murky, as the negotiations dragged on ever since. The Cubs tried to portray the Red Sox as being obstructionists, while the Red Sox sniffed the Cubs were undervaluing the trade value of an original Theo Epstein.

 

Which side was embellishing most is probably a debate best left for historians in the inevitable documentary on the Cubs' championship season.

 

Not that anyone should get ahead of themselves.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1021-gm-cubs-chicago--20111021,0,6561428.story

[Laura]

In this video posted earlier today, Gammons says the Theo compensation negotiations are now centered around 2 unnamed A-ball prospects:

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19925153&c_id=mlb

 

(apologies if this is a repost)

[Guest]

In this video posted earlier today, Gammons says the Theo compensation negotiations are now centered around 2 unnamed A-ball prospects:

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19925153&c_id=mlb

 

(apologies if this is a repost)

 

 

Gammons sounding way less delusional and homeristic in that clip. Guess cause he's on MLBN.

[BearClaw]

I am confused. Do I want my favorite player traded or not, for a suit?

 

I can't tell which organization of the three is the worst one?

 

I rather the player be a free agent with these suits, now Mooron, I mean Moorad wanting

Comp for girlie suits?

 

What is a Man Purse?

 

Does it contain everything the travelin Exec needs to perform?

 

What makes the carrier of a Man Purse more baseball valuable than a player? I guess that keen eye for talent versus that keen eye to hit a fast moving projectile?

 

NO HELMET REQUIRED!!

[Rob]

NO HELMET REQUIRED!!

 

this explains much

[E.J.]

I am confused. Do I want my favorite player traded or not, for a suit?

 

I can't tell which organization of the three is the worst one?

 

I rather the player be a free agent with these suits, now Mooron, I mean Moorad wanting

Comp for girlie suits?

 

What is a Man Purse?

 

Does it contain everything the travelin Exec needs to perform?

 

What makes the carrier of a Man Purse more baseball valuable than a player? I guess that keen eye for talent versus that keen eye to hit a fast moving projectile?

 

NO HELMET REQUIRED!!

 

You lost the magic.

[Guest]

By the way, someone brought this up on "Who Ya Crappin?" today, but Gammons said this about our farm system back in January....

 

So by the beginning of this week, the Rays' trade partners for a potential Garza deal had been narrowed down to the Rangers and Cubs, who own two of the deepest farm systems in the game.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110107&content_id=16408630&c_id=mlb

 

 

 

Guess we went from one of the deepest in the game to bottom 3 just by giving up Archer, Chirinos, Guyer, and Lee.

[Brian]

Well if no conference tomorrow, looks like the next shot will be Monday after the cardinals sweep

[Magnetic Curses]

when i said selig would get involved and tell the red sox whom they were allowed to take, david said huh?

 

huh?

 

maybe it was wat

[MWV]

I am confused. Do I want my favorite player traded or not, for a suit?

 

I can't tell which organization of the three is the worst one?

 

I rather the player be a free agent with these suits, now Mooron, I mean Moorad wanting

Comp for girlie suits?

 

What is a Man Purse?

 

Does it contain everything the travelin Exec needs to perform?

 

What makes the carrier of a Man Purse more baseball valuable than a player? I guess that keen eye for talent versus that keen eye to hit a fast moving projectile?

 

NO HELMET REQUIRED!!

 

10 beers?

[Guest]

when i said selig would get involved and tell the red sox whom they were allowed to take, david said huh?

 

huh?

 

maybe it was wat

 

Just seemed very random and out there at the time. Not near as much with a week more of this lunacy.

[Magnetic Curses]

I am confused. Do I want my favorite player traded or not, for a suit?

 

I can't tell which organization of the three is the worst one?

 

I rather the player be a free agent with these suits, now Mooron, I mean Moorad wanting

Comp for girlie suits?

 

What is a Man Purse?

 

Does it contain everything the travelin Exec needs to perform?

 

What makes the carrier of a Man Purse more baseball valuable than a player? I guess that keen eye for talent versus that keen eye to hit a fast moving projectile?

 

NO HELMET REQUIRED!!

 

hey, do you like thick onion gravy?