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Just saw the missed call on the tag at first base. Holy crap that was terrible. That wasn't even like Napoli barely tagged the runner. He hit him in the shoulder and the head.
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It is [expletive] how hot the Cardinals are right now. Charlie Manuel is a moron for playing that last series of the year so hard.

 

It only makes sense to let the team in that has sucked for a month and is missing key components to injuries as opposed to the one that has been hot. If the decision was based on their "rivalry," then Manuel really is an idiot.

 

Oh, come on. If a team can keep a division rival out that's what they're going to play for. "Hot" teams stumble all the time in the playoffs, just like everyone else, so it's ridiculous to expect teams to act like the people here who just assume the Cardinals always win.

The Braves made the playoffs 15 years in a row and won 1 title. For that reason alone I would have rather had them in than the Cardinals were I the Phillies. The Braves find ways to choke every year.

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It is [expletive] how hot the Cardinals are right now. Charlie Manuel is a moron for playing that last series of the year so hard.

 

It only makes sense to let the team in that has sucked for a month and is missing key components to injuries as opposed to the one that has been hot. If the decision was based on their "rivalry," then Manuel really is an idiot.

 

Oh, come on. If a team can keep a division rival out that's what they're going to play for. "Hot" teams stumble all the time in the playoffs, just like everyone else, so it's ridiculous to expect teams to act like the people here who just assume the Cardinals always win.

The Braves made the playoffs 15 years in a row and won 1 title. For that reason alone I would have rather had them in than the Cardinals were I the Phillies. The Braves find ways to choke every year.

 

So the logic behind this is you think the Phillies should have gone, "hey, division rivals, we're going to let you in because you've been bad the last month and the Cardinals have been good, nevermind in the short series "hot" teams get the boot all the damn time. Plus they're the Cardinals and EVERYTHING goes their way because of magic or unholy luck or whatever and, because, y'know"?

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It is [expletive] how hot the Cardinals are right now. Charlie Manuel is a moron for playing that last series of the year so hard.

 

It only makes sense to let the team in that has sucked for a month and is missing key components to injuries as opposed to the one that has been hot. If the decision was based on their "rivalry," then Manuel really is an idiot.

 

Oh, come on. If a team can keep a division rival out that's what they're going to play for. "Hot" teams stumble all the time in the playoffs, just like everyone else, so it's ridiculous to expect teams to act like the people here who just assume the Cardinals always win.

The Braves made the playoffs 15 years in a row and won 1 title. For that reason alone I would have rather had them in than the Cardinals were I the Phillies. The Braves find ways to choke every year.

So the logic behind this is you think the Phillies should have gone, "hey, division rivals, we're going to let you in because you've been bad the last month and the Cardinals have been good, nevermind in the short series "hot" teams get the boot all the damn time. Plus they're the Cardinals and EVERYTHING goes their way because of magic or unholy luck or whatever and, because, y'know"?

I would have tried to keep the best offense in the NL out and the best player in baseball.
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Now that's a real argument (though remember which team you're talking about; the one that arguably had the best pitching in all of baseball. Like it or not, most teams are going to bet on pitching over offense in the short series).

 

Still think it's silly to fault a team for trying to take out a division rival, though. That's what's going to happen 9 times out of 10. A pretty incredible confluence of events had to occur for the season to end the way it did, so most people aren't going to sit back and choose to let a divisional rival win and make the playoffs.

 

Do you think the Yankees rolled over for the Rays to keep the Red Sox out?

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Now that's a real argument (though remember which team you're talking about; the one that arguably had the best pitching in all of baseball. Like it or not, most teams are going to bet on pitching over offense in the short series).

 

Still think it's silly to fault a team for trying to take out a division rival, though. That's what's going to happen 9 times out of 10. A pretty incredible confluence of events had to occur for the season to end the way it did, so most people aren't going to sit back and choose to let a divisional rival win and make the playoffs.

 

Do you think the Yankees rolled over for the Rays to keep the Red Sox out?

Yes, but that rivalry isn't the same as the Phillies Braves. I think that looking at the histories ofmthe two teams and how they are playing is important. The Braves find ways to lose in the playoffs, the Cardinals generally do not.

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Now that's a real argument (though remember which team you're talking about; the one that arguably had the best pitching in all of baseball. Like it or not, most teams are going to bet on pitching over offense in the short series).

 

Still think it's silly to fault a team for trying to take out a division rival, though. That's what's going to happen 9 times out of 10. A pretty incredible confluence of events had to occur for the season to end the way it did, so most people aren't going to sit back and choose to let a divisional rival win and make the playoffs.

 

Do you think the Yankees rolled over for the Rays to keep the Red Sox out?

Yes, but that rivalry isn't the same as the Phillies Braves. I think that looking at the histories ofmthe two teams and how they are playing is important. The Braves find ways to lose in the playoffs, the Cardinals generally do not.

 

Wait, what?

 

The Cardinals have been to the playoffs 8 times prior to this year in the last 15 seasons. They made it to the WS 2 times. They won the WS once (and the one they lost was getting swept by the Red Sox for THEIR first WS win in forever, yet people still think those dastardly Cards are soooooooo lucky). How the [expletive] does that translate to "the Cardinals generally do not find ways to lose in the playoffs?" That means that actually 88% of the time the Cardinals do indeed "find a way to lose."

 

And the Yankees and the Red Sox this year is very relevant. The Red Sox were stinking it up, while the Rays were scorching hot, yet you think the Yankees rolled over for the Rays to let them into the playoffs, but that makes sense because of the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry. Guh? You think the Phillies and Braves wouldn't be playing their asses off against each other in the playoffs? Just because it's not an ESPN-endorsed Official Greatest Rivalry of All Time doesn't mean they're not still rivals.

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I guess I just don't think that the phillies braves rivalry is that big of a deal.

 

Compared to the Red Sox/ Yankees? Of course not. To the teams themselves? Of course it is. If one can keep the other out of the playoffs they're going to pounce all over it.

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I guess I just don't think that the phillies braves rivalry is that big of a deal.

 

Compared to the Red Sox/ Yankees? Of course not. To the teams themselves? Of course it is. If one can keep the other out of the playoffs they're going to pounce all over it.

Either way this blows, the Cardinals shouldn't be in the playoffs, let alone champions.

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If the Cardinals did have to go on a miracle run to the playoffs and an improbable sprint to the world series and win it all, I'd prefer it's this year when we have bigger and better baseball related things to focus on rather than bitch and dwell on it for the next several weeks-months.
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The Cardinals are definitely going to win tonight to cap off a terrible day for me.
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yeah texas definitely should have more than 1 run.... don't like that it's one nick punto/allen craig/david freese swing of the bat from being tied.

 

5 BB and tons of lasers. Could be a blowout.

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