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Saw this un an ESPN article.

 

Outside the box: Right-hander Andrew Cashner threw his third session to live hitting on Friday. He threw 30 pitches to live hitters and is expected to throw a side session on Sunday before accepting a minor league assignment to continue his rehab.

 

With Zambrano gone Cashner needs to be a solid contributor to the 2012 rotation.

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Saw this un an ESPN article.

 

Outside the box: Right-hander Andrew Cashner threw his third session to live hitting on Friday. He threw 30 pitches to live hitters and is expected to throw a side session on Sunday before accepting a minor league assignment to continue his rehab.

 

With Zambrano gone Cashner needs to be a solid contributor to the 2012 rotation.

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I agree about Cashner, but I hadn't heard that Z got traded.

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Saw this un an ESPN article.

 

Outside the box: Right-hander Andrew Cashner threw his third session to live hitting on Friday. He threw 30 pitches to live hitters and is expected to throw a side session on Sunday before accepting a minor league assignment to continue his rehab.

 

With Zambrano gone Cashner needs to be a solid contributor to the 2012 rotation.

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I agree about Cashner, but I hadn't heard that Z got traded.

Well, whether he's traded or released outright, he sure as sh*t won't be pitching for the Cubs.

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Obviously Cash can't be slotted in the rotation and pitch 200 innings next year. What do you do with him?

 

He's likely gonna pitch in winter league right? Let him start for a while then put him in the bullpen?

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Obviously Cash can't be slotted in the rotation and pitch 200 innings next year. What do you do with him?

 

He's likely gonna pitch in winter league right? Let him start for a while then put him in the bullpen?

 

I'd tend to favor starting Cashner in the AAA rotation next year and then maybe shifting him to the major league pen once Iowa's season is over. He stays stretched out and gets a decent amount of innings without putting undue stress on his arm by trying to insert him straight into the ML rotation all year.

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Yeah, the best approach would seem to be to let Cashner start in Iowa, with extra rest/skipped starts on occasion, and using him as a fill in if a MLB guy has to be out with a DL stint. Get him to 140-150 IP so he can compete for a rotation spot in 2013 in earnest.
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Cashner has nothing to prove in the minors. If he's going to get hurt again it'll happen whether or not he's in the majors, and he's not going to get any better pitching against minor leaguers.

 

It's not that he needs to prove himself, but if he can't handle the starter's workload, then he's a burden on the pitching staff at the MLB level. At Iowa you can skip him, push him back, piggy back him, etc. as much as the organization would like.

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Cashner has nothing to prove in the minors. If he's going to get hurt again it'll happen whether or not he's in the majors, and he's not going to get any better pitching against minor leaguers.

 

It's not that he needs to prove himself, but if he can't handle the starter's workload, then he's a burden on the pitching staff at the MLB level. At Iowa you can skip him, push him back, piggy back him, etc. as much as the organization would like.

 

They can piggyback him at the ML level with Shark/Russell, if it truly comes to that.

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just saying, samardzija is gonna be stretched out, too. theoretically the club could put one in the pen for a few starts/ vice versa so that the roster spot isn't wasted, the cubs know what they have in samardzija, cashner is worked back into the rotation, and a tangible post-2012-contracts rotation idea is surmised
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Cashner has nothing to prove in the minors. If he's going to get hurt again it'll happen whether or not he's in the majors, and he's not going to get any better pitching against minor leaguers.

 

It's not that he needs to prove himself, but if he can't handle the starter's workload, then he's a burden on the pitching staff at the MLB level. At Iowa you can skip him, push him back, piggy back him, etc. as much as the organization would like.

 

They can piggyback him at the ML level with Shark/Russell, if it truly comes to that.

 

It has more of an impact at the major league level to have a guy starting who you have to coddle. In Iowa, nobody cares if Cashner can only pitch 3-5 innings in a given start because it doesn't matter if Iowa wins or loses. At the major league level, however, the goal is to win and that goal would be hampered by starting a guy you know may only be able to go 3-4 innings some starts because of a pitch count limit.

 

As for piggybacking him with Shark or Russell, we've seen enough of Russell this year to know he's not very productive if he's in any more than a short reliever type role. He's not a guy we need to be throwing for multiple innings. As for Shark, he was a bad pitcher when he was being moved from the rotation to the pen throughout the season, so putting him right back into that role is risky at best. He probably needs to focus simply on either starting or relieving and not both, and it seems his stuff is best when he's in a relief role, so that's where I'd leave him.

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Cashner is slated to start Tuesday for Tennessee. He's expected to go 1 inning.

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