The DL

[BigbadB]

This has been brought up before, but is anyone opposed to increasing the amount of DL spots? Is this something that needs to wait until this season is over, or can we consider increasing it now?

 

The juggling act I'm performing right now is becoming a real pain in the ass. One more DL guy, and there won't be anyone I wish to drop to get 7 starts for the week. Part of my bench has become DL players. Dropped a guy I didn't really want to drop because my DL is full.

 

If we did implement more DL spots, we might need to discuss how to prevent every DL guy in the free agent pool from becoming extra storage on some team's DL, because that is not what the addition of more DL spots would be designed for.

 

With the current group of sissies playing this game, 6 DL spots might not be enough.

[Guest]

At one point this year, I had six DL players and had two in my reserves and one in my starting lineup. I'm all for expanding it, though I wish it could have been done with I was begging for it earlier.

[Guest]

At one point this year, I had six DL players and had two in my reserves and one in my starting lineup. I'm all for expanding it, though I wish it could have been done with I was begging for it earlier.

 

I remember you wishing it was expanded at that time, but I don't recall that you actually begged for it to happen. We can implement something midseason if someone is passionate enough about it and no one is opposed. I don't recall anyone being opposed, but maybe there actually was someone against a bigger DL.

[NCCubFan]

I have no objection to increasing the DL spots either now or for next season. My first choice, though, would be to increase the number of reserve spots. That would provide more flexibility for situations like injured players who are day-to-day but not on the DL. It can be hard to manage those situations with only three reserve spots, especially if two of them are used for pitchers to ensure 7 starts. Another option might be to change the rule so you can put injured players on an expanded DL even if the player is not actually on the major league DL, but with the stipulation that you can't put that player back into your active lineup for the remainder of the week in order to prevent abuse.

[MembersOnlyJacket]

If the MLB DL doesn't have a limit, then nor should the Fantasy League DL (at least my simple view on this).

 

I'm not in favor of increasing the reserve limit because it will dilute the free agent pool while some team stashes people for "when the might need them" instead of a valid reason to have them on the roster.

 

Being forced to drop a player because they went on the ML defeats the purpose of the league.

[Guest]

I have added 3 more DL spots to the rosters. I'll send out a league memo letting everyone know that it has been done.

 

I can't get on board with extra roster spots as Robert has suggested. When someone does get hurt, there needs to be some players out there to pick up as replacements. If they are all sitting at the end of our benches, there won't be anyone left to pick up for a quick replacement when necessary. That we allow teams to pick up guys midweek for injuries seems like that would be good enough.

[shnsajax]

I have added 3 more DL spots to the rosters. I'll send out a league memo letting everyone know that it has been done.

 

I can't get on board with extra roster spots as Robert has suggested. When someone does get hurt, there needs to be some players out there to pick up as replacements. If they are all sitting at the end of our benches, there won't be anyone left to pick up for a quick replacement when necessary. That we allow teams to pick up guys midweek for injuries seems like that would be good enough.

 

I agree with this. I'm not a fan of increasing roster spots. DL spots I am fine with though.

[abuck1220]

lol, brian has a roster crunch, so he just changes the rule. i guess that worked out pretty well for him.

[Guest]

Where was your vote against changing the rule, Adam?

 

The only contribution you offered on this rule change is to show everyone your ass, and we've actually seen it enough at this point that we don't really need to see it anymore.

[abuck1220]

i have no problem with the rule change, but this isn't the first time it's come up. but as soon as it becomes an issue for you, the rule just gets changed.

 

i had to drop jake peavy 10 DAYS AGO because of my roster crunch. then someone picked him up and traded him for a bunch of draft picks. that pisses me off and is complete [expletive]. sure wish your precious roster crunch would have coincided with peavy's injury a little better.

[Guest]

i have no problem with the rule change, but this isn't the first time it's come up. but as soon as it becomes an issue for you, the rule just gets changed.

 

i had to drop jake peavy 10 DAYS AGO because of my roster crunch. then someone picked him up and traded him for a bunch of draft picks. that pisses me off and is complete [expletive]. sure wish your precious roster crunch would have coincided with peavy's injury a little better.

 

Why didn't you say something during that point, Adam? Where was your proposal? I wasn't opposed to making the change back when Tim mentioned that it would be nice to have a bigger DL. Where are the proposals at? Just because someone is a commissioner doesn't mean that the commissioner is the only one to make rule change proposals.

 

I dropped someone last week I didn't want to drop. And I was even worse off going into this week, even more worse off than I originally realized before I made the original proposal post, and I finally said enough is enough. No one seemed to be opposed, so I changed it.

[abuck1220]

i have no problem with the rule change, but this isn't the first time it's come up. but as soon as it becomes an issue for you, the rule just gets changed.

 

i had to drop jake peavy 10 DAYS AGO because of my roster crunch. then someone picked him up and traded him for a bunch of draft picks. that pisses me off and is complete [expletive]. sure wish your precious roster crunch would have coincided with peavy's injury a little better.

 

Why didn't you say something during that point, Adam? Where was your proposal?

 

i didn't say anything because the rules are the rules, and it would be pretty dumb to change them mid-season, especially when i would only have wanted them changed because it effected me.

 

I wasn't opposed to making the change back when Tim mentioned that it would be nice to have a bigger DL.

 

right. but you didn't make the change until it really helped you.

 

just look at this from someone's perspective other than your own. people have been managing roster crunches all year with injuries/guys on the DL. i just dropped a pretty good pitcher last week because of this issue. people have brought this up several times over the course of the season. then it effects the commissioner and, what do you know, the rule is immediately changed. you have to admit that seems pretty ridiculous when it's laid out like that.

[abuck1220]

I dropped someone last week I didn't want to drop. And I was even worse off going into this week, even more worse off than I originally realized before I made the original proposal post, and I finally said enough is enough.

 

just read this and think of how [expletive] dumb it sounds.

 

yeah, i realized this DL issue was really starting to become a problem for me, so i was like, yeah, i'll just go ahead and change it. didn't really impact me the first 1,000 times others complained about it, but man it really hit home when i was actually effected by it.

[Guest]

people have brought this up several times over the course of the season. then it effects the commissioner and, what do you know, the rule is immediately changed. you have to admit that seems pretty ridiculous when it's laid out like that.

 

You are acting like I just arbitrarily changed the rule on people without even asking, Adam. Not only did my original proposal suggest a change to the current DL process, it also asked if we should wait until the season is over. No one said we should wait. You didn't chime in at all, so since you didn't have anything to offer then, why are you casting judgment now?

 

And as I said in my last post, Adam, where was your proposal for change?

[Guest]

I dropped someone last week I didn't want to drop. And I was even worse off going into this week, even more worse off than I originally realized before I made the original proposal post, and I finally said enough is enough.

 

just read this and think of how [expletive] dumb it sounds.

 

yeah, i realized this DL issue was really starting to become a problem for me, so i was like, yeah, i'll just go ahead and change it. didn't really impact me the first 1,000 times others complained about it, but man it really hit home when i was actually effected by it.

 

If you don't like it Adam, I'll just go ahead and look for a replacement for you now. Because I'm not going to continue with your childish behavior anymore. I've had it with your constant finger pointing and woe is me attitude.

[abuck1220]

oh, here come the threats to kick me out. i pay on time and tend to my lineup every week, which is obviously more than a lot of others in this league can say.

 

sorry i pointed out the fact that you changed a rule mid-season because it benefitted you. correct me if that is in any way inaccurate. i don't think that is against the rules and guidelines of this league. if anything, i'm jealous...i wish i had the power to do that when i had to drop peavy.

[moochpuppy]

I don't have an issue with the change but it did come on rather quickly. You just posted a proposal yesterday (Sunday) at 3:00pm est and then the rule is changed within 24 hours of said proposal. That doesn't allow alot of time for people to respond especially coming off a weekend when people may be out of town or doing family things.

[Guest]

oh, here come the threats to kick me out. i pay on time and tend to my lineup every week, which is obviously more than a lot of others in this league can say.

 

sorry i pointed out the fact that you changed a rule mid-season because it benefitted you. correct me if that is in any way inaccurate. i don't think that is against the rules and guidelines of this league. if anything, i'm jealous...i wish i had the power to do that when i had to drop peavy.

 

Paying on time does not entitle you to behave like an ass. I was handed the commish job, I did not volunteer for it. You don't have to be jealous of power, because I do my best not to abuse the power of being the commish. I feel like I used the proper channels to filter through a necessary change, and I feel like I phrased it properly in suggesting that it could wait until the end of the season unless people were okay with making the change now.

 

I really don't believe that because someone is the commissioner that they should automatically be subjected to personal attacks just because of their title. It's a very unrewarding job and one that has tested my patience this year due to some unpaying and unplaying managers. The offseason wasn't much fun either shopping around for new managers.

 

If enough people believe that I am abusing my power as commish, I'll happily step down since I didn't ask for the position in the first place. That you could have been the one to propose this rule change back when you felt you needed it should stop all arguments.

 

If anyone feels passionately enough about a rule change, even if it's in the middle of the season, feel free to send a proposal that we can vote on.

 

Admittedly, I proposed this rule change at a time that it affected me, but I clearly stated that in my original post. I also pointed out that I knew others had or are going through similar issues, so now was as good a time as any to make the change. Why didn't I propose it when Tim was having his roster issues? I'm positive that I showed my support for a change, but no one proposed an actual change. There is nothing that says that only the commissioner is allowed to propose rule changes. On top of that, no one asked me to make a proposal for this change before I made this one.

 

I'll change it back if people believe that the change should wait until the end of the season. I'm fine with that, and I would have done that if someone, anyone would have said not to do it midseason.

[Guest]

I don't have an issue with the change but it did come on rather quickly. You just posted a proposal yesterday (Sunday) at 3:00pm est and then the rule is changed within 24 hours of said proposal. That doesn't allow alot of time for people to respond especially coming off a weekend when people may be out of town or doing family things.

 

You are right, and I apologize for that. I didn't have a secret agenda. I spelled it all out. If anyone is opposed, I'll change it back. I wanted to institute it at the beginning of the new scoring period. If I don't, I'll be without a Utility player all week.

 

As my punishment for implementing the rule so quickly, I'll happily relinquish my commish powers to someone else.

 

ETA: Also, the proposal was made on a day where nearly ever manager will check in while making roster changes for the next week and such.

[abuck1220]

That you could have been the one to propose this rule change back when you felt you needed it should stop all arguments.

 

 

yeah, you continue to say this, but i never said i felt the rule needed to change. so you can put that argument away because it makes no sense.

[abuck1220]

If anyone is opposed, I'll change it back. I wanted to institute it at the beginning of the new scoring period. If I don't, I'll be without a Utility player all week.

 

 

yeah, and i lost jake peavy. and i've had chipper jones take 3 days off while in my active lineup. and tommy hanson has been in my lineup last week even though he's hurt. and so on and so on and so on. everybody has had crap like this happen, so i find it hard to feel too sorry for you. nobody else got to just give themselves extra DL spots when it happened.

[abuck1220]

just give me back ey jr and we'll call it even.

 

oh, and i get to keep ben sheets on my DL for all eternity.

[Guest]

That you could have been the one to propose this rule change back when you felt you needed it should stop all arguments.

 

 

yeah, you continue to say this, but i never said i felt the rule needed to change. so you can put that argument away because it makes no sense.

 

And you didn't argue that the rule shouldn't change, so why waste everyone's time by picking a fight after the rule changed? I didn't have a hidden agenda. Again, it was all spelled out for everyone to see.

[abuck1220]

brandon webb is the one maxing out your DL? are you [expletive] kidding me???? that guy has elbow cancer or some [expletive]. lol, just [expletive] drop him...oh my goodness.

 

also, put ben revere in your minor leagues and play ortiz at U.

 

this is your unmanageable roster crunch??????

[Guest]

If anyone is opposed, I'll change it back. I wanted to institute it at the beginning of the new scoring period. If I don't, I'll be without a Utility player all week.

 

 

yeah, and i lost jake peavy. and i've had chipper jones take 3 days off while in my active lineup. and tommy hanson has been in my lineup last week even though he's hurt. and so on and so on and so on. everybody has had crap like this happen, so i find it hard to feel too sorry for you. nobody else got to just give themselves extra DL spots when it happened.

 

Are you arguing for the rule change to wait until the offseason? All it takes is one person.