Peavy suffers setback

[Irrelevant Dude]

We really dodged a bullet with this guy.

 

The positive momentum surrounding Jake Peavy's recovery from surgery hit a snag Sunday as the Chicago White Sox shut down the right-handed pitcher with what is believed to be rotator cuff tendinitis.

"Believe me as long as I am the manager of this ballclub that is the last time he convinces me," Guillen said after Sunday's 9-7 defeat to the Dodgers. "I will make the call. I will have the power to let him go out or not. I know it sounds powerful but the last two times he didn't convince me, he convinced everybody he could go out there and perform and the next day we get bad news.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6240184

[Soul]

I'm not surprised anymore when this happens, but it still sucks for fans of that team when it does.

[BeerHere]

I never want to see any player get hurt. Having said that, this couldn't happen to a more deserving manager, team and fanbase. I hope he misses the year.

[inari]

I never want to see any player get hurt. Having said that, this couldn't happen to a more deserving manager, team and fanbase. I hope he misses the year.

 

Looks to me like you definitely want some players to get hurt.

[J.R.]

I never want to see any player get hurt. Having said that, this couldn't happen to a more deserving manager, team and fanbase. I hope he misses the year.

 

Agreed.

[UMFan83]

I remember back when we were obsessed with getting Peavy, a couple of posters commented on the injury concerns with Peavy and were quicky shot down. Looks like it was good that we didn't end up getting him.

[Soul]

Addition by non-Addition?

[Little Slide Rooter]

What did they want besides Vitters anyway? As I recall, we traded Pie to Baltimore for some guy who the Padres had their eye on. When the Peavy deal was dead, we traded that guy and Cedeno to Seattle for Heilman. Could be wrong though.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I remember back when we were obsessed with getting Peavy, a couple of posters commented on the injury concerns with Peavy and were quicky shot down. Looks like it was good that we didn't end up getting him.

 

That thread, like so many, is hilarious in retrospect.

[Sammy Sofa]

[expletive]. Really, people are going to be knocked for really, really wanting Jake Peavy on the Cubs 2 years ago? And the people with injury concerns are now validated because of what happened to him? They do realize exactly what happened to him, right? Nobody was calling anything like that. They were, rightly so, concerned about his elbow more than anything else. But you're not "right" if you're worried about a player having, say, back issues and then they blow out their knee. Edited March 22, 2011 by Sammy Sofa

[NCCubFan]

What did they want besides Vitters anyway? As I recall, we traded Pie to Baltimore for some guy who the Padres had their eye on. When the Peavy deal was dead, we traded that guy and Cedeno to Seattle for Heilman. Could be wrong though.

You're right. It was pitcher Garrett Olson.

[Clem Fandango]

[expletive]. Really, people are going to be knocked for for really, really wanting Jake Peavy on the Cubs 2 years ago? And the people with injury concerns are going to validated because of what happened to him? They do realize exactly what happened to him, right? Nobody was calling anything like that. They were, rightly so, concerned about his elbow more than anything else. But you're not "right" if you're worried about a player having, say, back issues and then they blow out their knee.

 

Whatever, I totally called his latissimus dorsi completely separating itself from bone 2 years ago. The writing was on the wall MMMAAAAAAANNNNNN

[Hairyducked Idiot]

[expletive]. Really, people are going to be knocked for really, really wanting Jake Peavy on the Cubs 2 years ago? And the people with injury concerns are now validated because of what happened to him? They do realize exactly what happened to him, right? Nobody was calling anything like that. They were, rightly so, concerned about his elbow more than anything else. But you're not "right" if you're worried about a player having, say, back issues and then they blow out their knee.

 

Knocked and validated? Not really, it's just entertaining to read old threads.

 

But two points:

 

1) Will Carroll was actually on the score yesterday talking about this. There's no way to know whether or not his problems in one part of the arm helped exacerbate problems elsewhere, but it's definitely possible.

 

2) His shoulder was a concern as well at the time.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/forum/topic?f=6&t=52078&p=2080638&hilit=peavy%20elbow%20shoulder#p2080638

[Sammy Sofa]

Kyle, you do know what his injury actually was, right? I don't give a flying [expletive] if people were "worried about his shoulder" in 2008. Nobody was "worried" about what actually happened.

 

If I say "there's a decent chance you'll wreck your car" because you live in an area where a lot of accidents happen and then an elephant falls on your car I'm not some kind of genius or prognosticator.

[Sammy Sofa]

And a passing mention of his shoulder really doesn't mean much. The focus was, by far, on his elbow when it came to talking about injury risk. You yourself are focusing almost completely on his elbow the very next page of that thread when discussing injury risk vs what it would take to get him.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Kyle, you do know what his injury actually was, right? I don't give a flying [expletive] if people were "worried about his shoulder" in 2008. Nobody was "worried" about what actually happened.

 

If I say "there's a decent chance you'll wreck your car" because you live in an area where a lot of accidents happen and then an elephant falls on your car I'm not some kind of genius or prognosticator.

 

No one's claiming that. Even if his elbow had blown up, it still wouldn't justify one side or the other. I was just pointing out that it wasn't just his elbow that was a concern at the time.

[Sammy Sofa]

Kyle, you do know what his injury actually was, right? I don't give a flying [expletive] if people were "worried about his shoulder" in 2008. Nobody was "worried" about what actually happened.

 

If I say "there's a decent chance you'll wreck your car" because you live in an area where a lot of accidents happen and then an elephant falls on your car I'm not some kind of genius or prognosticator.

 

No one's claiming that. Even if his elbow had blown up, it still wouldn't justify one side or the other. I was just pointing out that it wasn't just his elbow that was a concern at the time.

 

How many times does the issue of Peavy's shoulder come up in that thread?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Kyle, you do know what his injury actually was, right? I don't give a flying [expletive] if people were "worried about his shoulder" in 2008. Nobody was "worried" about what actually happened.

 

If I say "there's a decent chance you'll wreck your car" because you live in an area where a lot of accidents happen and then an elephant falls on your car I'm not some kind of genius or prognosticator.

 

No one's claiming that. Even if his elbow had blown up, it still wouldn't justify one side or the other. I was just pointing out that it wasn't just his elbow that was a concern at the time.

 

How many times does the issue of Peavy's shoulder come up in that thread?

 

Non-zero.

[Sammy Sofa]

Oh, Kyle.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

oh nuts

[Sammy Sofa]

Just do a count. For fun.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just do a count. For fun.

 

That doesn't sound like fun.

 

My point is that his shoulder was on the radar too. The fact that it was non-zero proves that.

 

And it wasn't just mentioned in passing by some nutjob poster. It was listed in a Sun-Times article as a reason the Cubs were concerned about giving him a long-term contract.

[Sammy Sofa]

You rarely disappoint, my boy.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

You rarely disappoint, my boy.

 

I'm not your boy, son.

[Sammy Sofa]

You are the child all of us dread.