Preemptive Mike Quade Fan Club

[Northside Blues]

A normal player has a BABIP that is roughly around .12 above their LD percentage. Soto's by year:

 

08: .122

09: .065

10: .080

11: .036

 

So 2+ years now where his BABIP is below where it should be after 1 year where it was right in line with what it should be. I think defensive positioning/lack of speed cause less balls for Soto to be hits than they should be by the numbers.

 

 

IFFBs guys, IFFBs. He has a 21.7% IFFB rate this year. That's not going to continue but it's certainly something I am not going to chalk up to luck. He hasn't been unlucky, he simply hasn't made consistent solid contact. IFFB is somewhat of a skill (or lackthereof) but that's been largely responsible for his low BABIPs since 08.

[TruffleShuffle]

A normal player has a BABIP that is roughly around .12 above their LD percentage. Soto's by year:

 

08: .122

09: .065

10: .080

11: .036

 

So 2+ years now where his BABIP is below where it should be after 1 year where it was right in line with what it should be. I think defensive positioning/lack of speed cause less balls for Soto to be hits than they should be by the numbers.

 

that's a very rudimentary formula, and as i said before, lack of speed does not have anything to do with luck. if you were to gather up every catcher in baseball and evaluate their BABIPs versus their LD%, i'd be shocked if their differential were not significantly below .12. i'll choose brian mccann at random - and he's a relatively thin and young guy, so i'm being generous to your side:

 

2007: .094

2008: .102

2009: .089

2010: .095

2011: .107

[CubColtPacer]

A normal player has a BABIP that is roughly around .12 above their LD percentage. Soto's by year:

 

08: .122

09: .065

10: .080

11: .036

 

So 2+ years now where his BABIP is below where it should be after 1 year where it was right in line with what it should be. I think defensive positioning/lack of speed cause less balls for Soto to be hits than they should be by the numbers.

 

 

IFFBs guys, IFFBs. He has a 21.7% IFFB rate this year. That's not going to continue but it's certainly something I am not going to chalk up to luck. He hasn't been unlucky, he simply hasn't made consistent solid contact. IFFB is somewhat of a skill (or lackthereof) but that's been largely responsible for his low BABIPs since 08.

 

I would agree that it has been somewhat of a factor this year, but I disagree that was a factor in 2009 or 2010. Soto's IFFB numbers were not all that high either year.

[TruffleShuffle]

IFFBs guys, IFFBs. He has a 21.7% IFFB rate this year. That's not going to continue but it's certainly something I am not going to chalk up to luck. He hasn't been unlucky, he simply hasn't made consistent solid contact. IFFB is somewhat of a skill (or lackthereof) but that's been largely responsible for his low BABIPs since 08.

 

no, he's been both. his xBABIP is still higher than his actual BABIP.

[CubColtPacer]

A normal player has a BABIP that is roughly around .12 above their LD percentage. Soto's by year:

 

08: .122

09: .065

10: .080

11: .036

 

So 2+ years now where his BABIP is below where it should be after 1 year where it was right in line with what it should be. I think defensive positioning/lack of speed cause less balls for Soto to be hits than they should be by the numbers.

 

that's a very rudimentary formula, and as i said before, lack of speed does not have anything to do with luck. if you were to gather up every catcher in baseball and evaluate their BABIPs versus their LD%, i'd be shocked if their differential were not significantly below .12. i'll choose brian mccann at random - and he's a relatively thin and young guy, so i'm being generous to your side:

 

2007: .094

2008: .102

2009: .089

2010: .095

2011: .107

 

Which is exactly what I'm saying-I'm worried that while it appears Soto has been very unlucky by the raw numbers that he has only been mildly to moderately unlucky once you consider the other factors.

[sneakypower]

catchers BABIP is usually ~.095 above their LD rate

[BeerHere]

It looks like Russell is getting another start despite the fact that opponents are hitting .362 against him.

 

Shoot me

[Tarver]

It looks like Russell is getting another start despite the fact that opponents are hitting .362 against him.

 

Shoot me

 

Jesus Christ, please send someone down here to show these fools the error of their ways.

[robotikarm]

Someone needs to send Q the memo: Starlin Castro should not bat third in the lineup. It's driving me crazy! I know Aramis, Byrd, Sori, and Pena aren't the best options, but I would rather see any of them bat third instead of Starlin. I know it's a numbers game, but Castro tries too hard in the three hole.

[dew1679666265]

Someone needs to send Q the memo: Starlin Castro should not bat third in the lineup. It's driving me crazy! I know Aramis, Byrd, Sori, and Pena aren't the best options, but I would rather see any of them bat third instead of Starlin. I know it's a numbers game, but Castro tries too hard in the three hole.

 

Actually, Pena's recent lines would have looked great in the top part of the order:

 

Past 28 days: .266/.392/.516/.908

Past 14 days: .371/.500/.657/1.157

Past 7 days: .294/.429/.647/1.076

 

If you want your best hitters at the top of the lineup, the top 4 spots need to be some combo of Kosuke/Barney/Starlin/Pena - at least while everything Barney hits falls in play.

[Sammy Sofa]

Kosuke

Castro

Pena

Aramis

Byrd

Barney

Sorinao

Hill/Castillo

[soapy]

Kosuke

Castro

Pena

Aramis

Byrd

Barney

Sorinao

Hill/Castillo

 

pretty much this. i'd probably swap Barney and Soriano, but it doesn't really matter.

 

When Geo comes back:

Kosuke

Castro

Pena

Aramis

Soto

Byrd

Soriano

Barney

[soapy]

If you want your best hitters at the top of the lineup, the top 4 spots need to be some combo of Kosuke/Barney/Starlin/Pena - at least while everything Barney hits falls in play.

 

even with Barney getting everything to fall in for a hit, he's OBP is only at .348 on the season. i don't really see a need to keep him near the top of the order.

[dew1679666265]

If you want your best hitters at the top of the lineup, the top 4 spots need to be some combo of Kosuke/Barney/Starlin/Pena - at least while everything Barney hits falls in play.

 

even with Barney getting everything to fall in for a hit, he's OBP is only at .348 on the season. i don't really see a need to keep him near the top of the order.

 

Barney's wOBA is actually higher than Aramis and Soto and almost as high as Byrd's (.334 vs .338). Soriano has a much higher wOBA, but appears to be in the midst of one of his slumps(near .600 OPS past 14 days).

 

Barney's been one of our more productive hitters so far this year even with the low OBP, though I understand he's very unlikely to keep this .300+ average up and he's really not walking much at all. He won't stay this productive and, because of that, I'd have no problem dropping him lower in the order. I'd keep Kosuke/Starlin/Pena as my 1/2/3, though.

[soapy]

If you want your best hitters at the top of the lineup, the top 4 spots need to be some combo of Kosuke/Barney/Starlin/Pena - at least while everything Barney hits falls in play.

 

even with Barney getting everything to fall in for a hit, he's OBP is only at .348 on the season. i don't really see a need to keep him near the top of the order.

 

Barney's wOBA is actually higher than Aramis and Soto and almost as high as Byrd's (.334 vs .338). Soriano has a much higher wOBA, but appears to be in the midst of one of his slumps(near .600 OPS past 14 days).

 

Barney's been one of our more productive hitters so far this year even with the low OBP, though I understand he's very unlikely to keep this .300+ average up and he's really not walking much at all. He won't stay this productive and, because of that, I'd have no problem dropping him lower in the order. I'd keep Kosuke/Starlin/Pena as my 1/2/3, though.

 

Fair point. Ultimately it doesn't really matter much as long as he keeps it up.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Quade taking about his players annoys me. He always refers to them by terrible nicknames, which are just usually just the first syllable of their name with an "e" sound at the end. "Sori", "Fuki", "Cassie", "Rammy", etc. That is all.

[rocket]

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/5/29/2195656/introducing-the-traditional-manager-index

 

quade one of the least traditional managers

[Tarver]

So did Mike have a big dinner engagement he had to rush to? Lopez vs. Pujols, what did he think would happen?

 

He went on record last night saying it was a mistake to pitch to Pujols, too. I'm guessing he doesn't get many big league interviews after we fire him.

[XZero771679666304]

This season isn't Quade's fault, but he's been nothing short of awful.

[Hawk4Hall]

I was lukewarm on the initial hiring of Quade, got to like him a little more after the Silva situation, but back to lukewarm with him now.

 

I know this team has it's injury issues but this division isn't good by any means.

 

I'll give Quade a pass this season and if they don't improve next year the experiment should end.

[Sammy Sofa]

I was lukewarm on the initial hiring of Quade, got to like him a little more after the Silva situation, but back to lukewarm with him now.

 

I know this team has it's injury issues but this division isn't good by any means.

 

I'll give Quade a pass this season and if they don't improve next year the experiment should end.

 

He's only signed for 2 years regardless.

[DivineBovine]

Whatever. There isn't a manager in the history of baseball that would get significantly better results with this team.

[NOLA]

Whatever. There isn't a manager in the history of baseball that would get significantly better results with this team.

 

Very true, but you have to draw a line at some point. Stupid baseball is stupid baseball, regardless of the record. If Quade ever wants to hold players accountable, he has to practice what he preaches. Manage smart, play smart. Nothing good comes from bad baseball, day after day.

[Guest]

Of all the things to criticize Quade about, pitching to Pujols is absolutely not one of them.

[NOLA]

Of all the things to criticize Quade about, pitching to Pujols is absolutely not one of them.

 

We disagree on that point, but even more than that is how he did it.

He pitches to Pujols on Saturday, an unintentional intentional walk. IMO, if you're going to walk him, then walk him. Don't play around with that BS or you might get burned, as the Cubs did.

After the game, he publicly says he might have to rethink his strategy in that situation.

Sunday after his closer fails to work Theriot correctly and blows the save the same situation arises with the same result. Pujols home run, Cards win. On top of that, he yanks Marmol there for Lopez to pitch to him?!?

 

Just dumb, dumb baseball.