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What kinds of penalties should be assessed to managers who don't submit their fees by the start of the draft?
Forfeiture of one draft pick per day until they pay, starting with their first picks and carrying over to future years if they still haven't paid when their picks for this year have been all forfeited. :twisted:
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it's 2011 and you don't have paypal, what gives?

 

kidding aside, i have a stack of $20 bills from my last trip back to the u.s. that i haven't changed into aussie dollars because the exchange rate for USD blows, plus i know i'm going to need them in a few months when i go back to the u.s. can i just send you a $20 in the mail and that will cover my fees for this year and next year?

 

Yeah, that's fine. Actually, you get the most leniency since you are late to the party. Everyone else is well versed on when fees are due and have been reminded a few times since I forked out the cash to renew the league.

 

What kinds of penalties should be assessed to managers who don't submit their fees by the start of the draft?

Give me their first round picks. :)

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it's 2011 and you don't have paypal, what gives?

 

kidding aside, i have a stack of $20 bills from my last trip back to the u.s. that i haven't changed into aussie dollars because the exchange rate for USD blows, plus i know i'm going to need them in a few months when i go back to the u.s. can i just send you a $20 in the mail and that will cover my fees for this year and next year?

 

Yeah, that's fine. Actually, you get the most leniency since you are late to the party. Everyone else is well versed on when fees are due and have been reminded a few times since I forked out the cash to renew the league.

 

What kinds of penalties should be assessed to managers who don't submit their fees by the start of the draft?

Give me their first round picks. :)

 

I think any forfeited picks should go to owners who have not won a championship and have been in the league the longest.

 

Seriously, I hope we are not talking about too many owners. There comes a point where if they do not pay, then they do not play.

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Seriously, I hope we are not talking about too many owners. There comes a point where if they do not pay, then they do not play.

 

There are 6 that I have not received fees from yet. If you go to the first post in this thread, I have a list of all that have paid so far.

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Yeah, some sort of draft pick forfeiture is the only real penalty you have. But as Quakers said, at some point, if you don't pay, you shouldn't play. It's almost March!
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Yeah, some sort of draft pick forfeiture is the only real penalty you have. But as Quakers said, at some point, if you don't pay, you shouldn't play. It's almost March!

 

Forfeiting draft picks doesn't seem like a favorable solution considering you may be replacing the manager anyway, especially after hurting the team. Sucks for the guy who takes over the team to lose out on a pick.

 

Also a horrible time to replace a manager.

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Having said what I said, I would hate to see anyone go.

Adam's one of the ones that hasn't paid yet...

 

:-$

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The level of discussion is pretty disappointing. Only 4 managers have responded to my email from the CBS message board post I sent out to everyone on Sunday morning regarding checking confirmation on email addresses. Very few have offered up their two cents regarding who should be allowed in each draft, and 6 managers still owe money.

 

This is making me feel like the extended draft will be an absolute mess. As much as I do not want to replace managers, I'm about to open the door for new managers. I'm not asking for daily participation here, but if you can't answer a simple email or pay up your fees in a timely manner, maybe it's time to find new blood. I also do not have time for games, so if anyone honestly doesn't want to be a manager, please let us know now.

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The level of discussion is pretty disappointing. Only 4 managers have responded to my email from the CBS message board post I sent out to everyone on Sunday morning regarding checking confirmation on email addresses. Very few have offered up their two cents regarding who should be allowed in each draft, and 6 managers still owe money.

 

This is making me feel like the extended draft will be an absolute mess. As much as I do not want to replace managers, I'm about to open the door for new managers. I'm not asking for daily participation here, but if you can't answer a simple email or pay up your fees in a timely manner, maybe it's time to find new blood. I also do not have time for games, so if anyone honestly doesn't want to be a manager, please let us know now.

 

Sorry, I got the email. I think it is ridiculous that people can't pony up $10 in a timely manner to someone who paid for the league out of his own pocket. We need to do something about it, but I do not have a suggestion. I'd hate to lose some of these guys, but I want the league to have active members who do respond and who do the responsible thing and pay on time. I'm fine with whatever the decision ends up being.

 

It also shocks me as to who hasn't paid. These guys, for the most part, have been around here since the beginning of this league.

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The level of discussion is pretty disappointing. Only 4 managers have responded to my email from the CBS message board post I sent out to everyone on Sunday morning regarding checking confirmation on email addresses. Very few have offered up their two cents regarding who should be allowed in each draft, and 6 managers still owe money.

 

This is making me feel like the extended draft will be an absolute mess. As much as I do not want to replace managers, I'm about to open the door for new managers. I'm not asking for daily participation here, but if you can't answer a simple email or pay up your fees in a timely manner, maybe it's time to find new blood. I also do not have time for games, so if anyone honestly doesn't want to be a manager, please let us know now.

 

Sorry, I got the email. I think it is ridiculous that people can't pony up $10 in a timely manner to someone who paid for the league out of his own pocket. We need to do something about it, but I do not have a suggestion. I'd hate to lose some of these guys, but I want the league to have active members who do respond and who do the responsible thing and pay on time. I'm fine with whatever the decision ends up being.

 

It also shocks me as to who hasn't paid. These guys, for the most part, have been around here since the beginning of this league.

 

I'm certainly not hurting for the cash. However, to not send in the fees or even send a personal email explaining why they haven't sent in the money is rather rude.

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Very few have offered up their two cents regarding who should be allowed in each draft

I'm fine with whatever rule we put in place, as long as it is clear.

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Any team that has not paid by the time of the draft should be locked out of their team and that team be put on autodraft. This way the team still ends up with decent players for whoever may take over said team.
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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

or

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

Would someone like to see a third option or a change of wording of these two options.

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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

or

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

Would someone like to see a third option or a change of wording of these two options.

My personal preference would be that you can draft anyone in the major league phase that you believe will be on a major league roster to begin the year. If that player is not on a 25 man roster to start the season, he must be dropped.

 

The only thing this would open up is for someone to draft Harper in the 10th round of the major league phase, knowing that they'd have to drop him. But that would effectively screw me over from getting him in the minor league draft. To prevent this, there would have to be some sort of "fuzzy" rule that says that any pick of a prospect in the major league draft that obviously won't be on a big league roster will be overruled.

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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

 

this seems right

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

this makes no sense to me.

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The only thing this would open up is for someone to draft Harper in the 10th round of the major league phase, knowing that they'd have to drop him. But that would effectively screw me over from getting him in the minor league draft.

 

oh i would totally do this.

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Sorry BBB, I've set the email address to my current one.
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Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.
This wording would still mean that some players could be taken in either draft, since some players with major league service time would still be minor league eligible. I'm fine with that if it's with the understanding that if such a player is taken in the major league draft that would rule out somebody else taking him in the minor league draft. That would also take care of the Harper issue, since he doesn't have major league time and would therefore be ineligible for the major league draft.
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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

 

this seems right

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

this makes no sense to me.

You don't get a say until you pay your bill..

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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

 

this seems right

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

this makes no sense to me.

You don't get a say until you pay your bill..

 

Adam PM'd that his money is on the way. It's the other 5 who still don't have a say. :D

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This wording would still mean that some players could be taken in either draft, since some players with major league service time would still be minor league eligible. I'm fine with that if it's with the understanding that if such a player is taken in the major league draft that would rule out somebody else taking him in the minor league draft. That would also take care of the Harper issue, since he doesn't have major league time and would therefore be ineligible for the major league draft.

 

The wording is meant that if someone is still minor league eligible, they would not be eligible for the major league portion of the draft, and that if someone has no eligibility for the minor leagues, they would be major league draft only.

 

It's a moot point, as it would seem as though people are leaning more towards the other option, which is basically what we did last year. I don't think my original intent was to change last year's draft policy, but more to clarify it better. And sure enough, I wasn't even remembering just what the previous year's policy was.

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Sorry BBB, I've set the email address to my current one.

 

No need for apologies. I just want to make sure everyone is getting league notices sent to their email address. Especially when it comes time to draft. Delays are kind of sucky. The use of autopilot should speed up the process, however. I, and probably Juan too, never think to remind people to check their email addresses to make sure they are getting their notices.

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How about if I start a poll on the site that chooses these two options:

 

Players with major league service time can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, and only minor league eligible players can be drafted in the minor league portion.

 

or

 

Players can only be drafted in the draft they are eligible for

 

Would someone like to see a third option or a change of wording of these two options.

My personal preference would be that you can draft anyone in the major league phase that you believe will be on a major league roster to begin the year. If that player is not on a 25 man roster to start the season, he must be dropped.

 

The only thing this would open up is for someone to draft Harper in the 10th round of the major league phase, knowing that they'd have to drop him. But that would effectively screw me over from getting him in the minor league draft. To prevent this, there would have to be some sort of "fuzzy" rule that says that any pick of a prospect in the major league draft that obviously won't be on a big league roster will be overruled.

 

Actually, Harper is a bad example, IMO, because part of the reason for the separate prospect draft is to have each manager get a fair shot at the players drafted in the June draft. Since Harper is one of those guys, he's only eligible for the prospect draft, even if he did have a shot at making the bigs this year.

 

So, while I can definitely go along with the rest of your proposed draft plan, I still believe the June amateur draft players (no matter whether they made it to the bigs last year or will open up on a big league roster this year) go into the prospect draft. Just my opinion, however.

 

I doubt there will be many guys who fall into this particular situation anyway. There are only 10 rounds of major league draft. That's barely enough rounds to fill the skill positions. There are 19 starter/bench spots. If someone has less than 10 keepers, they will still be filling out their roster after the draft is over. I wonder if I actually need to extend the draft to a few more rounds?

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