7/13: All-Star Game: NL (Jimenez) vs. AL (Price) - 7 CT FOX

[Andy]

He was already one of our most marketable commodities, his All Star game hero status only accentuates it.

 

Re: Byrd

Why would the Cubs get rid of him though? He plays good offense and good defense at a fairly premium position, and while he's not bargain-basement cheap, his contract is perfectly reasonable and it's 2 1/2 more seasons. There's not really any reason for the Cubs to dump him.

[Tarver]

Exactly, so why not sell high (before the pub on his AS heroics wane) on one of the few truly good trade chips we have?

[Formerly Snayke]

$120 mil for Holliday. Hahahaha

 

I don't get it.

[UMFan83]

$120 mil for Holliday. Hahahaha

 

I don't get it.

 

I think because he missed that catch in LF late in the game. Bounced off his glove. I'm not sure the Cardinals signed him for his defense though. That said, Holliday has what is starting to be a disturbing history of botched defensive plays in big games, starting with his botched fly ball in the one game playoff between San Diego and Colorado, followed by the groin shot in last years playoffs and now that catch, which obviously was nowhere as big, and the game was not even close as a playoff game in terms of importance.

[Sammy Sofa]

Exactly, so why not sell high (before the pub on his AS heroics wane) on one of the few truly good trade chips we have?

 

Because they don't have anyone to fill the position? If someone is offering a great offer now, fine, but the Cubs could easily sell high with him later.

[UMFan83]

Exactly, so why not sell high (before the pub on his AS heroics wane) on one of the few truly good trade chips we have?

 

Because they don't have anyone to fill the position? If someone is offering a great offer now, fine, but the Cubs could easily sell high with him later.

 

Soriano-Fukudome-Colvin? Brett Jackson might be called up by September 1st as the thread on NSBB speculates.

[Omar]

If a manager makes the world series and he's not with a team the season after, does he still get to manage the ASG?

[Sammy Sofa]

Exactly, so why not sell high (before the pub on his AS heroics wane) on one of the few truly good trade chips we have?

 

Because they don't have anyone to fill the position? If someone is offering a great offer now, fine, but the Cubs could easily sell high with him later.

 

Soriano-Fukudome-Colvin? Brett Jackson might be called up by September 1st as the thread on NSBB speculates.

 

Calling Jackson up to get a look-see when rosters expand is one thing; calling him up with the intention of keeping him up as a starter or 4th OF next year isn't very wise, and dear Lord, Colvin is still nowhere near showing he should be a starting OF.

 

Focusing on trading Fukudome right now makes a lot more sense than moving Byrd just because he made a nice defensive play at the ASG. Again, the Cubs could easily sell high on Byrd by the deadline next year, or even in the off season between 2011 and 2012.

Edited July 14, 2010 by Sammy Sofa

[Garwilly]

If a manager makes the world series and he's not with a team the season after, does he still get to manage the ASG?

 

Yes.

 

Dusty, as a Cub in 2003 managed after winning the 2002 pennant in San Fran.

[Omar]

If a manager makes the world series and he's not with a team the season after, does he still get to manage the ASG?

 

Yes.

 

Dusty, as a Cub in 2003 managed after winning the 2002 pennant in San Fran.

 

Yeah but Dusty was on a team in the same league.

 

What if Dusty was unemployed for the 2003 season is what I'm saying?

[Andy]

If a manager makes the world series and he's not with a team the season after, does he still get to manage the ASG?

 

Yes.

 

Dusty, as a Cub in 2003 managed after winning the 2002 pennant in San Fran.

 

Yeah but Dusty was on a team in the same league.

 

What if Dusty was unemployed for the 2003 season is what I'm saying?

Hard to believe such a situation would arise unless a manager retired.

[Garwilly]

If a manager makes the world series and he's not with a team the season after, does he still get to manage the ASG?

 

Yes.

 

Dusty, as a Cub in 2003 managed after winning the 2002 pennant in San Fran.

 

Yeah but Dusty was on a team in the same league.

 

What if Dusty was unemployed for the 2003 season is what I'm saying?

 

Bob Lemon did that after the Yankees fired him around 79/80.

[Garwilly]

About Lemon, I looked it up, he won the World Series in 78, and before the All Star break in 79 was fired. But still managed.

[BCVM22]

Byrd ought to be MVP just for his cool poses after scoring and after gunning down Fat Papi.

 

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08Xz9vFh1L7DG/610x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03aP7tOfxveUW/x610.jpg

 

A modicum of pride in an otherwise lackluster first half.

[Omar]

About Lemon, I looked it up, he won the World Series in 78, and before the All Star break in 79 was fired. But still managed.

 

What uniform did he wear?

[jersey cubs fan]

About Lemon, I looked it up, he won the World Series in 78, and before the All Star break in 79 was fired. But still managed.

 

What uniform did he wear?

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3514/3706621043_431c37a8a0_o.png

 

He's wearing a NYY uniform here.

[erik316wttn]

It was kind of surprising to hear that McCann's hit was the first 3-rbi non-HR hit in the history of the All-star game. Something like 82 games and nobody had ever hit a bases-clearing double. Odd.

[jersey cubs fan]

Exactly, so why not sell high (before the pub on his AS heroics wane) on one of the few truly good trade chips we have?

 

Because they don't have anyone to fill the position? If someone is offering a great offer now, fine, but the Cubs could easily sell high with him later.

 

Soriano-Fukudome-Colvin? Brett Jackson might be called up by September 1st as the thread on NSBB speculates.

 

Calling Jackson up to get a look-see when rosters expand is one thing; calling him up with the intention of keeping him up as a starter or 4th OF next year isn't very wise, and dear Lord, Colvin is still nowhere near showing he should be a starting OF.

 

Focusing on trading Fukudome right now makes a lot more sense than moving Byrd just because he made a nice defensive play at the ASG. Again, the Cubs could easily sell high on Byrd by the deadline next year, or even in the off season between 2011 and 2012.

 

I don't see why they shouldn't trade Byrd today if it was possible. The lack of a viable replacement isn't a legit reason. This team is going nowhere, yet they still have people who can do it. If his value is high enough to net a return this year, there's no reason to risk waiting until next year when his value could easily slip. He doesn't have a long track record of sustained success and he is almost 33 already.

[Sammy Sofa]

I don't see why they shouldn't trade Byrd today if it was possible. The lack of a viable replacement isn't a legit reason. This team is going nowhere, yet they still have people who can do it. If his value is high enough to net a return this year, there's no reason to risk waiting until next year when his value could easily slip. He doesn't have a long track record of sustained success and he is almost 33 already.

 

I'd still chance it. While 2010 is a bust, 2011 actually doesn't have to be, and I think moving Byrd would mean they'd hang on to Fukudome. I think moving Fukudome (in the right deal) would be more beneficial to the team both right now and in the long run. Like I said, if someone is calling up the Cubs with an amazing offer for Byrd there's no reason for them to not take it.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't see why they shouldn't trade Byrd today if it was possible. The lack of a viable replacement isn't a legit reason. This team is going nowhere, yet they still have people who can do it. If his value is high enough to net a return this year, there's no reason to risk waiting until next year when his value could easily slip. He doesn't have a long track record of sustained success and he is almost 33 already.

 

I'd still chance it. While 2010 is a bust, 2011 actually doesn't have to be, and I think moving Byrd would mean they'd hang on to Fukudome. I think moving Fukudome (in the right deal) would be more beneficial to the team both right now and in the long run. Like I said, if someone is calling up the Cubs with an amazing offer for Byrd there's no reason for them to not take it.

 

If you can get something of value for Fukudome without paying all his contract, sure. But that might be difficult, and if you can deal Byrd for something, you do it now.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Based on this 1 game alone, I'd like to see Marlon Byrd as a Cub forever joining Ted Lilly and Jim Edmonds. However, it's silly to hold on to him when his value is probably at its highest and the team is going nowhere. They should definitely unload him if the price is right.

[Soul]

Just wanted to post: I'm really glad I turned on the end of that game now.

 

Nice work, Byrd. =D>

[UMFan83]

I don't see why they shouldn't trade Byrd today if it was possible. The lack of a viable replacement isn't a legit reason. This team is going nowhere, yet they still have people who can do it. If his value is high enough to net a return this year, there's no reason to risk waiting until next year when his value could easily slip. He doesn't have a long track record of sustained success and he is almost 33 already.

 

I'd still chance it. While 2010 is a bust, 2011 actually doesn't have to be, and I think moving Byrd would mean they'd hang on to Fukudome. I think moving Fukudome (in the right deal) would be more beneficial to the team both right now and in the long run. Like I said, if someone is calling up the Cubs with an amazing offer for Byrd there's no reason for them to not take it.

 

I guess I'm just not a huge fan of Byrd. He had a nice first half, but he's not someone I have to keep if I want to contend in 2011. I guess he is starter quality and not making a ton, but if I'm Hendry, everyone on the team is available right now.

[J.R.]

I can't remember ever being so happy with two walks and a nice throw by a Cub.

 

I now fully support every team having a rep.

[javy knows my name]

I am certainly glad we didn't try for that old man Ichiro when he was a free agent. :roll:

 

When was Ichiro a free agent?

 

For all we know he just misspelled Pujols.

Oh my God this did not get enough appreciation