Mets' players tell management to cut Perez

[sweetpeteman]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/191571-mets-player-cut-bait-on-perez?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

 

. A day after watching [Perez] implode in a relief appearance against the Brewers, two disgusted Mets players told The Post yesterday it's time management drew a line in the sand with the putrid lefty.

 

 

 

And he's owed:

10:$12M, 11:$12M (Cot's)

 

 

Omar Minaya is giving Hendry a run for stupid contracts to bad pitchers.

[Tracer Bullet]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/191571-mets-player-cut-bait-on-perez?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

 

. A day after watching [Perez] implode in a relief appearance against the Brewers, two disgusted Mets players told The Post yesterday it's time management drew a line in the sand with the putrid lefty.

 

 

 

And he's owed:

10:$12M, 11:$12M (Cot's)

 

 

Omar Minaya is giving Hendry a run for stupid contracts to bad pitchers.

 

Hendry's biggest issue with pitchers is overpaying for "proven" relievers, like Grabow and Howry. But even then, he's paying Howry less than $500k total (assuming they buy him out at the end of the year). The Grabow contract is bad, but even that is $7m over 2 years, which isn't anywhere near the $24m the Mets are paying Perez.

 

Maybe we should have co-GMs. Hendry can be in charge of signing SPs and trades with the Pirates and the other guy can be in charge of everything else.

[CUBZ99]

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/191571-mets-player-cut-bait-on-perez?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

 

. A day after watching [Perez] implode in a relief appearance against the Brewers, two disgusted Mets players told The Post yesterday it's time management drew a line in the sand with the putrid lefty.

 

 

 

And he's owed:

10:$12M, 11:$12M (Cot's)

 

 

Omar Minaya is giving Hendry a run for stupid contracts to bad pitchers.

 

Hendry's biggest issue with pitchers is overpaying for "proven" relievers, like Grabow and Howry. But even then, he's paying Howry less than $500k total (assuming they buy him out at the end of the year). The Grabow contract is bad, but even that is $7m over 2 years, which isn't anywhere near the $24m the Mets are paying Perez.

 

Maybe we should have co-GMs. Hendry can be in charge of signing SPs and trades with the Pirates and the other guy can be in charge of everything else.

 

Big Z's contract is looking worse than Perez's at the moment.

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http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/191571-mets-player-cut-bait-on-perez?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

 

 

. A day after watching [Perez] implode in a relief appearance against the Brewers, two disgusted Mets players told The Post yesterday it's time management drew a line in the sand with the putrid lefty.

 

 

 

And he's owed:

10:$12M, 11:$12M (Cot's)

 

 

Omar Minaya is giving Hendry a run for stupid contracts to bad pitchers.

 

Hendry's biggest issue with pitchers is overpaying for "proven" relievers, like Grabow and Howry. But even then, he's paying Howry less than $500k total (assuming they buy him out at the end of the year). The Grabow contract is bad, but even that is $7m over 2 years, which isn't anywhere near the $24m the Mets are paying Perez.

 

Maybe we should have co-GMs. Hendry can be in charge of signing SPs and trades with the Pirates and the other guy can be in charge of everything else.

 

Big Z's contract is looking worse than Perez's at the moment.

 

That's ridiculous.

 

Z's ERA+ ('03-'10): 139, 160, 135, 136, 117, 118, 119, 74 (through 2 months, 1 of which was spent in the pen). Worth $18m/year the last 2 years and the next 2? No. But you can at least see why you would pay a guy that much money based on his first 6 full seasons. And you can at least argue that they're paying Z in part for the cheap, high quality innings he gave them during those early years (not a sound economic argument, but a touchy-feely one; plus it might lift the organization in the eyes of other players who see some loyalty there). Perez has oscillated among solid, great, and terrible over his 8 or so years. Nothing about him says "pay me $12m a year."

[sweetpeteman]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

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Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

[Clem Fandango]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

 

That really great year screwed me in Fantasy the year after when I drafted high on him, lol

[Jake]

But he was so much fun to watch in '04!

[sweetpeteman]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

 

 

I didn't look at B-A, but MLB.com which doesn't split it up like that.

 

107

74

145

72

68

121

100

61

66

 

That's not a roller coaster, that's a railroad of suck with a couple of bumps in it.

[Ball And Glove]

I'd laugh about this, but we're probably a few days away from the same story coming out about the Brewers and Jeff Suppan. :banghead:

[sweetpeteman]

I'd laugh about this, but we're probably a few days away from the same story coming out about the Brewers and Jeff Suppan. :banghead:

 

I could have said the same thing about the Cubs and Grabow, if he hadn't be "DLed"

[SouthSideRyan]

I'd laugh about this, but we're probably a few days away from the same story coming out about the Brewers and Jeff Suppan. :banghead:

 

I could have said the same thing about the Cubs and Grabow, if he hadn't be "DLed"

 

If it helps both of them will make more this season than the total of Grabow's contract.

[Tracer Bullet]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

 

 

I didn't look at B-A, but MLB.com which doesn't split it up like that.

 

107

74

145

72

68

121

100

61

66

 

That's not a roller coaster, that's a railroad of suck with a couple of bumps in it.

 

8 years (not including this one): 4 bad, 2 average or slightly better, 2 really good/great. I guess you've been on different roller coasters than I have.

[sweetpeteman]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

 

 

I didn't look at B-A, but MLB.com which doesn't split it up like that.

 

107

74

145

72

68

121

100

61

66

 

That's not a roller coaster, that's a railroad of suck with a couple of bumps in it.

 

8 years (not including this one): 4 bad, 2 average or slightly better, 2 really good/great. I guess you've been on different roller coasters than I have.

 

The first season was only 90 innings. So its closer to 4+ bad, 1 1/2 average, 1 good, 1 great.

[Tracer Bullet]

Perez hasn't oscillated as much as he's just sucked with a brief flash af being good or at least no sucking.

 

are you looking at his totals for each year or just his numbers even for partial years (as BR has them set out)?

 

107, 74, 145, 72, 68, 121, 100, 61, 66.

 

5 years of suck. 2 years of average or better. a really good year. and a great year. A lot of those are partial seasons, but 3 of his best seasons were full seasons. I'd say his career has been pretty much a roller coaster.

 

 

I didn't look at B-A, but MLB.com which doesn't split it up like that.

 

107

74

145

72

68

121

100

61

66

 

That's not a roller coaster, that's a railroad of suck with a couple of bumps in it.

 

8 years (not including this one): 4 bad, 2 average or slightly better, 2 really good/great. I guess you've been on different roller coasters than I have.

 

The first season was only 90 innings. So its closer to 4+ bad, 1 1/2 average, 1 good, 1 great.

 

and he threw 103 innings in '05 (72 ERA+), and 112 in '06 (68) and 66 innings last year (66). Like I said, most of those are partial seasons and his 3 best seasons (by ERA+) are the 3 seasons in which he pitched the most innings. Which is cause and which is effect, I do not know. But his career ERA+ is 92. Suggests the balance of his IP were average, even though he only had 1 calendar season where he was close to an "average" ERA+. So again, several years of suck, several years of good or great. On balance, close to average. You don't like roller coaster, call it whatever you want.

[NCCubFan]

Perez conveniently came down with a knee injury and was placed on the DL today. The Mets needed to clear a roster spot for a player coming off the DL. Apparently they asked him to accept a minor league assignment to work out his troubles and he exercised his right to refuse.

[cheapseats]

Perez conveniently came down with a knee injury and was placed on the DL today. The Mets needed to clear a roster spot for a player coming off the DL. Apparently they asked him to accept a minor league assignment to work out his troubles and he exercised his right to refuse.

 

And it appears that MLB will investigate the legitimacy of Perez's injury.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/

[NCCubFan]

Perez conveniently came down with a knee injury and was placed on the DL today. The Mets needed to clear a roster spot for a player coming off the DL. Apparently they asked him to accept a minor league assignment to work out his troubles and he exercised his right to refuse.

 

And it appears that MLB will investigate the legitimacy of Perez's injury.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/

It could be a legitimate injury, but the timing seems rather suspicious.