Week 4

[moochpuppy]

i can't believe we're debating this for the 943rd time.

 

Well, this would be my first.

[moochpuppy]

The active roster must be set by noon Monday each week and cannot be changed unless there is a benching, demotion to the minors, fantasy trade or injury.

 

This is the rule that applies to the question being asked. While it doesn't specify adding or dropping for 7th starts, it also doesn't make the exception. Since there is no exception, it reads as though all active roster changes must be set before games begin on Monday.

 

 

This rule is being contradicted in the very next sentence. If a roster has to be set by noon Monday each week how can starting pitchers be free to move in and out of the starting lineup?

[Guest]

The active roster must be set by noon Monday each week and cannot be changed unless there is a benching, demotion to the minors, fantasy trade or injury.

 

This is the rule that applies to the question being asked. While it doesn't specify adding or dropping for 7th starts, it also doesn't make the exception. Since there is no exception, it reads as though all active roster changes must be set before games begin on Monday.

 

 

This rule is being contradicted in the very next sentence. If a roster has to be set by noon Monday each week how can starting pitchers be free to move in and out of the starting lineup?

 

Reserves. Juan doesn't care how many times you insert Starting Pitchers in your line up or move them to reserves, as long as you don't exceed 7 starts.

 

That's what that sentence applies to.

 

A perfect example would be to have a guy in your active line up that is scheduled to make 2 starts for the week, but you don't want to use his second start, so after his first one, you move him to the bench. But, later in the week, you change your mind and you want to use that start, you are welcome to move them back from the bench to the active roster.

[moochpuppy]

Reserves. Juan doesn't care how many times you insert Starting Pitchers in your line up or move them to reserves, as long as you don't exceed 7 starts.

 

That's what that sentence applies to.

 

So for instance I have 7 SP on my roster. Player A is scheduled for 2 starts and the others 1 each for the week for a total of 8 starts. I decide player B is going to stay on my bench because I don't like his matchup. I find out later in the week that player A's last start of the week is getting pushed to Monday. So, according to the rules, I can take player B off my bench and insert him into the starting lineup to get my 7th start.

 

What is the difference of doing this and picking up a SP in midweek to do the same thing?

[Guest]

Reserves. Juan doesn't care how many times you insert Starting Pitchers in your line up or move them to reserves, as long as you don't exceed 7 starts.

 

That's what that sentence applies to.

 

So for instance I have 7 SP on my roster. Player A is scheduled for 2 starts and the others 1 each for the week for a total of 8 starts. I decide player B is going to stay on my bench because I don't like his matchup. I find out later in the week that player A's last start of the week is getting pushed to Monday. So, according to the rules, I can take player B off my bench and insert him into the starting lineup to get my 7th start.

 

What is the difference of doing this and picking up a SP in midweek to do the same thing?

 

The difference is one requires moving someone from your bench to your active roster. The other requires a mid week free agent pick up, which is not allowed based on the rules as they are listed.

[moochpuppy]

The difference is one requires moving someone from your bench to your active roster. The other requires a mid week free agent pick up, which is not allowed based on the rules as they are listed.

 

So you can pick up FA midweek but just can't start them until the following week? Also, even though the rules state, as posted, that SP can move freely in and out of the lineup in order to make a maximum of 7 starts this does not apply for SP picked up midweek?

 

I think there should be something posted in the rules thread regarding this so it won't have to be discussed for a 944th time since abuck is keeping track.

[Guest]

So you can pick up FA midweek but just can't start them until the following week? Also, even though the rules state, as posted, that SP can move freely in and out of the lineup in order to make a maximum of 7 starts this does not apply for SP picked up midweek?

 

Yep, I think that's pretty accurate.

 

The league was designed with weekly roster changes in mind, not daily. Plan ahead if you want 7 starts for the week.

[NCCubFan]

I remember last year we said you can't promote a pitcher from your minor league roster midweek and start him that week (I tried to do that with Norris, but it became a moot point when he put up negative points). It doesn't make sense to say that you can't promote a pitcher but you can sign a free agent. I think the interpretation that you can only use a starter you sign midweek only if due to injury or a trade is correct.

[abuck1220]

I remember last year we said you can't promote a pitcher from your minor league roster midweek and start him that week (I tried to do that with Norris, but it became a moot point when he put up negative points).

 

mute.

 

and man that was entertaining. i posted a quality picture of bud from the cosby show that got NO respect from you guys. my hilarity is so wasted on this bunch.

[Quakers]

Note to self....never brag during the preseason trash talking sessions about how good your team is and how you are going to make the play-offs, etc...

 

At this year I may be trading veterans for prospects and draft picks earlier than I have ever had to before

[tadowdaddy]

Chuck came back to take the lead, but I have a 4-1 start advantage.

[rawaction]

Dilemma. I'm up about 60, but with a 4-1 start disadvantage currently. I could make that 4-2, but Zach Duke would be my 7th start. Do I go with Duke who threw a -20 up on my bench earlier this week?

[bukie]

Well, the way I see it, as long as he gives positive points, it was worth it. So if you don't think he'll have back to back disaster starts it'll be fine.

[Guest]

Unless my guys are facing Phily or at Colorado or at Fenway or at Yankee Stadium, I'll generally throw them out there against anyone. In some instances, you still have to pitch them in the situations I mentioned above, like Santana later this weekend against Phily, but if you would rather bench them than play them, they probably shouldn't be on the team.

[NCCubFan]

I generally won't forfeit my 7th start out of fear of negative points. However, I might if that start is scheduled for Sunday and I figure that I have it wrapped up by then unless the pitcher puts up a stinker. Similarly, I've occasionally benched a Monday night player in fantasy football to protect against negative points if I otherwise have it wrapped up.

[NCCubFan]

Anybody looking for a closer and interested in taking a chance of Brad Lidge returning to form? He comes off the DL today. I drafted him as insurance in case Marmol struggled or Rauch didn't get the Twins' closer job, but with both of them pitching very well and solidly entrenched in the closer role I have no need for Lidge. I'd be willing to trade him for a mid-round pick in next year's draft.

[NCCubFan]

Dilemma. I'm up about 60, but with a 4-1 start disadvantage currently. I could make that 4-2, but Zach Duke would be my 7th start. Do I go with Duke who threw a -20 up on my bench earlier this week?

I think Pineiro ended any doubt about our outcome.

[Guest]

My team is sucking big, unwashed hairy balls this week. Now that I've planted that visual, time to retire until Monday.

[Guest]

My part time roster gave me a 70+ point day without a single SP pitching that day. That was a huge boost. I'd have to do some serious research, but I don't think there has been a single day this season where my entire active roster offense has played. Even with the big day yesterday, my 2b and SS sat.

[Guest]

My team is sucking big, unwashed hairy balls this week. Now that I've planted that visual, time to retire until Monday.

 

Yeah, why couldn't you have done this last week?

[Guest]

My team is sucking big, unwashed hairy balls this week. Now that I've planted that visual, time to retire until Monday.

 

Yeah, why couldn't you have done this last week?

I don't know. But at this point, I'm hoping Jackson throws a -37 start out there, too

[NCCubFan]

My team is sucking big, unwashed hairy balls this week. Now that I've planted that visual, time to retire until Monday.

 

Yeah, why couldn't you have done this last week?

I don't know. But at this point, I'm hoping Jackson throws a -37 start out there, too

Jackson seems to bounce around between us. You traded him to me several years ago, then I re-signed him last year (after releasing him a couple years earlier when he appeared to be a bust), and now he's yours again after I didn't make him one of my keepers (which appears to be one of my few good decisions this year).

[MembersOnlyJacket]

Nice management of the pitching staff, Sanitizers. With Sheets in there, I would've won the week.

[NCCubFan]

Brad Lidge is now available on a waiver wire near you.

[MembersOnlyJacket]

Brad Lidge is now available on a waiver wire near you.

 

Thanks, I'll pass.