2010 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[NewUserName]

I just realized if the Bruins win game 7, there will be 3 original six teams in the final 4, and we will have a 100% chance of at least 1 O6 team in the finals with a 50% chance of 2 O6 teams squaring off for the Cup. Pretty cool. Sharks don't ruin this.

 

by beating the Wings they already have kind of ruined it, could have been all 4 teams.

[UMFan83]

I just realized if the Bruins win game 7, there will be 3 original six teams in the final 4, and we will have a 100% chance of at least 1 O6 team in the finals with a 50% chance of 2 O6 teams squaring off for the Cup. Pretty cool. Sharks don't ruin this.

 

by beating the Wings they already have kind of ruined it, could have been all 4 teams.

 

If we wanted to have the most traditional semi finals and finals we would have something like Blackhawks/Blues, Red Wings/Kings, Rangers/Bruins, Maple Leafs/Canadiens, then the Blackhawks/Red Wings, Bruins/Canadiens in the semis and whoever wins those ones in the finals. What a great postseason for hockey traditionalists.

[jersey cubs fan]

I just realized if the Bruins win game 7, there will be 3 original six teams in the final 4, and we will have a 100% chance of at least 1 O6 team in the finals with a 50% chance of 2 O6 teams squaring off for the Cup. Pretty cool. Sharks don't ruin this.

 

by beating the Wings they already have kind of ruined it, could have been all 4 teams.

 

If we wanted to have the most traditional semi finals and finals we would have something like Blackhawks/Blues, Red Wings/Kings, Rangers/Bruins, Maple Leafs/Canadiens, then the Blackhawks/Red Wings, Bruins/Canadiens in the semis and whoever wins those ones in the finals. What a great postseason for hockey traditionalists.

 

I would replace the Kings with the Oilers.

[UMFan83]

I just realized if the Bruins win game 7, there will be 3 original six teams in the final 4, and we will have a 100% chance of at least 1 O6 team in the finals with a 50% chance of 2 O6 teams squaring off for the Cup. Pretty cool. Sharks don't ruin this.

 

by beating the Wings they already have kind of ruined it, could have been all 4 teams.

 

If we wanted to have the most traditional semi finals and finals we would have something like Blackhawks/Blues, Red Wings/Kings, Rangers/Bruins, Maple Leafs/Canadiens, then the Blackhawks/Red Wings, Bruins/Canadiens in the semis and whoever wins those ones in the finals. What a great postseason for hockey traditionalists.

 

I would replace the Kings with the Oilers.

 

Sure, I just picked Kings and Blues becuase they (along with the North Stars/Dallas Stars) were WC teams that were part of the original expansion in 1967. But the Oilers were formed only a couple years later.

[UMFan83]

i still think you should be able to choose the PP over a penalty shot if you want

 

i'd have much rather had 2 minutes of PP in that situation

 

I think if you miss the penalty shot you should still get a 2 minute PP. The one thing that is supposed to separate a penalty shot from just a penalty is did the shooter still have a legitimate scoring chance. So if he has a legit scoring chance and doesnt score they still call the penalty. If however the player does not have a scoring chance then he gets the scoring chance with the penalty shot in theory, if he misses it..done.

 

I think if a team could chose they would still take the penalty shot almost every time. My guess is successful penalty shot percentages are a lot better then even the best PP percentages.

 

I think it would be fun if there could somehow be a way to line up the 2 teams on each side board inside the zone where the penalty is taking place, and after a shot it put on net, the teams are allowed to get into position if the shot is saved and rebounded, play continues like normal. Just like they do in soccer. That way not only do you get your breakaway shot again, you at least get some semblance of a rebound opportunity like you would on a traditional breakaway.

 

It's a really far fetched idea, and the logistics might make it impossible to incorporate, but it would be fun to see nonetheless.

 

Fake Edit: 3 players could either line up on each side of the side boards, alternating by team (like how they shoot FTs in basketball) or behind the net, and have 2 players on each team lineup outside the blue line, so you could put your D/Wings there and prevent breakaways.

[jersey cubs fan]

Sure, I just picked Kings and Blues becuase they (along with the North Stars/Dallas Stars) were WC teams that were part of the original expansion in 1967. But the Oilers were formed only a couple years later.

 

Yeah, the Oilers are a slightly younger expansion team, but I think they are more of a storied franchise. The Kings are meaningless outside of their home city.

 

 

Your penalty shot idea is absolutely crazy, but very interesting.

[17 Seconds]

I think if a team could chose they would still take the penalty shot almost every time. My guess is successful penalty shot percentages are a lot better then even the best PP percentages.

 

 

yeah they are, and in most cases i'd agree that the penalty shot is better. but when you have a 2 goal lead with 7 minutes left, i think the 2 minutes of the team trying to come back being shorthanded is more valuable. even if you don't score, you've wiped 2 crucial minutes off the clock.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Would still rather have the penalty shot.

[17 Seconds]

but penalty shot success rates are still well under 50%, right? so by taking the penalty shot, you're making it so the odds are in favor of you getting NOTHING out of it.

 

you take the pp, and you not only are the odds in favor of you getting something, it's a guarantee. worst case scenario, you get 2 minutes of the opposition being shorthanded.

 

and when you consider the relatively small difference between PP% and PS%, the addition of 2 PP minutes makes it seem like a no brainer for me.

 

again though, that's only when you're trying to hold a lead late.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

but penalty shot success rates are still well under 50%, right? so by taking the penalty shot, you're making it so the odds are in favor of you getting NOTHING out of it.

 

you take the pp, and you not only are the odds in favor of you getting something, it's a guarantee. worst case scenario, you get 2 minutes of the opposition being shorthanded.

 

and when you consider the relatively small difference between PP% and PS%, the addition of 2 PP minutes makes it seem like a no brainer for me.

 

again though, that's only when you're trying to hold a lead late.

 

Preferring a guaranteed gain to a non-guaranteed gain is a common cognitive bias.

 

A penalty shot succeeds about 40% of the time. A power play succeeds about 18% of the time and concedes a shorthanded goal about 2% of the time.

 

So by choosing the PS, you have an expected positive utility of +0.24 goals. I'm willing to wager an extra quarter of a goal adds way more win percentage, on average, than two minutes off the clock.

[UMFan83]

Flyers or Bruins tonight?

 

I'm rooting for the Flyers to do the unthinkable, but think the Bruins will somehow pull it off. I definitely think whoever wins this is going to lose to Montreal at this point. Both teams are pretty banged up, and Boston especially is having big issues scoring.

[TruffleShuffle]

way to go hartnell, what a [expletive] moron he is.

[17 Seconds]

nice discipline, philly

[17 Seconds]

welp, the flyers handed them this game

[E.J.]

Philly not playing smart at all. Looks like they could be in trouble.

[TruffleShuffle]

mineaswell get out the golf clubs.

 

can't complain, the flyers won 5 more games in the playoffs than i thought they would.

[E.J.]

Boston is completely dominating.

[E.J.]

Yeah, game over.

[TruffleShuffle]

way to show up flyers.

 

i hope they release hartnell; i could take his dumbass play when he was scoring 25-30 goals a year but this year he was so awful. just go away.

[TruffleShuffle]

who should i root for the rest of the way? i'm torn between the bruins and hawks... guess i'll root for both of them in the conference finals and then figure it out in the stanley cup finals.

[UMFan83]

who should i root for the rest of the way? i'm torn between the bruins and hawks... guess i'll root for both of them in the conference finals and then figure it out in the stanley cup finals.

 

Maybe you should root for the Flyers who are still very much alive in this game.

[17 Seconds]

holy [expletive]

[E.J.]

Yeah, game over.

 

um...nevermind.

[17 Seconds]

well they came back from a 3-0 series deficit. only fitting that they come back from a 3-0 deficit in game 7

[17 Seconds]

3 high sticking penalties through the first half of a game 7?

 

control your sticks