Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks Thread!!!!!!

[Banedon]

Someone on the Flyers board said that Melrose said the Hawks are the worst team to ever be up 2-0 in the SCF....did he actually spew forth those words?

 

I think the Blackhawks were exhausted in that 3rd period. They were slow and couldn't keep up the Flyers pace at all. Niemi stole this game.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Wednesday night will be the second June Blackhawks game in history.

[17 Seconds]

Someone on the Flyers board said that Melrose said the Hawks are the worst team to ever be up 2-0 in the SCF....did he actually spew forth those words?

 

i'm about 99.999999% sure that that was from a flyers fan either making things up, or hearing what he wanted to hear. melrose would never say that. he's been on the hawks bandwagon the entire season. i've heard him say on several occasions during this season that the hawks are the best team in the nhl.

[Banedon]

Someone on the Flyers board said that Melrose said the Hawks are the worst team to ever be up 2-0 in the SCF....did he actually spew forth those words?

 

i'm about 99.999999% sure that that was from a flyers fan either making things up, or hearing what he wanted to hear. melrose would never say that. he's been on the hawks bandwagon the entire season. i've heard him say on several occasions during this season that the hawks are the best team in the nhl.

 

It sounded pretty out there, even for Melrose.

 

BTW, with the Toews line doing nothing for 2 games in the SCF now, is Niemi the leading contender for the Conn Smythe at this point?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Seriously, Antti Niemi just stole a Stanley Cup Final game. He completely stole it.

 

Also, Sopel was awesome.

[Flames24Rulz]

Sweep these [expletive]. I said it.

[bukie]

Seriously, Antti Niemi just stole a Stanley Cup Final game. He completely stole it.

 

Also, Sopel was awesome.

Sopel was paired with Hjalmersson the whole 3rd period. Campbell barely saw the ice.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

BTW, with the Toews line doing nothing for 2 games in the SCF now, is Niemi the leading contender for the Conn Smythe at this point?

 

I thought Toews' line was decent tonight, even without actually scoring.

 

I think Niemi's in the picture now, but I still suspect it'd be Toews if the hawks can win the series.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Seriously, Antti Niemi just stole a Stanley Cup Final game. He completely stole it.

 

Also, Sopel was awesome.

Sopel was paired with Hjalmersson the whole 3rd period. Campbell barely saw the ice.

 

I've heard rumors Campbell is having back issues.

[Irrelevant Dude]

I'm an admitted bandwagon fan who watched a little bit of hockey in the 90's Roenick/Chelios era, but didn't start watching semi-regularly until last season. As I'm starting to pick up some of the strategies and intricacies, I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone can answer.

 

1) What does it mean to have the "last change"? The announcers make it sound like it gives the home team an advantage to pick their matchups, but if the other team doesn't like the matchup can't they just make a line change at any time to adjust?

 

2) How are +/- stats calculated? I understand that they are the differential in scoring while the player is on the ice, but can't that be deceiving if someone is involved in a lot of power players or penalty killing. For example, wouldn't a player on a penalty-killing line be at a disadvantage because his line is more likely to be scored on?

 

3) If postseason hockey can survive just fine without fighting, why is it necessary in the regular season? I really don't understand the two seperate sets of rules. Either allow fighting or don't, but it doesn't make sense to change the rules once the playoffs start.

[Magnetic Curses]

BTW, whenever he's not playing the Blackhawks, I'm going to make it a point to watch more Pronger. He is amazing.

 

pronger is a giant turd that desperately needs to get steve moore'd, but without all the crying and apologizing later on.

[Guest]

Man, Niemi was a bad ass there.

[Magnetic Curses]

Someone on the Flyers board said that Melrose said the Hawks are the worst team to ever be up 2-0 in the SCF....did he actually spew forth those words?

 

i think what he said is that the flyers are the worst team to ever be down 0-2 in the stanley cup finals.

[Flames24Rulz]

I'm an admitted bandwagon fan who watched a little bit of hockey in the 90's Roenick/Chelios era, but didn't start watching semi-regularly until last season. As I'm starting to pick up some of the strategies and intricacies, I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone can answer.

 

1) What does it mean to have the "last change"? The announcers make it sound like it gives the home team an advantage to pick their matchups, but if the other team doesn't like the matchup can't they just make a line change at any time to adjust?

 

2) How are +/- stats calculated? I understand that they are the differential in scoring while the player is on the ice, but can't that be deceiving if someone is involved in a lot of power players or penalty killing. For example, wouldn't a player on a penalty-killing line be at a disadvantage because his line is more likely to be scored on?

 

3) If postseason hockey can survive just fine without fighting, why is it necessary in the regular season? I really don't understand the two seperate sets of rules. Either allow fighting or don't, but it doesn't make sense to change the rules once the playoffs start.

 

The last change just means exactly that. The home team gets to have the last line change, which is usually supposed to give you somewhat of a strategic advantage when you're at home.

 

Plus-minus stats are calculated only during even strength time. They go out the window when a goal is scored with a man advantage or a man disadvantage. If you're on the ice when an even strength goal is scored, you get a plus one. If you're on the ice when a goal is scored against you, you get a minus one. That's all there is to it. It's not the best stat in the world but people would tell you that it at least gives you an idea of who exactly is the most valuable to your team.

 

And as far as the fighting thing goes, I have no clue. I really wish they'd either embrace it or abolish it completely.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

1) What does it mean to have the "last change"? The announcers make it sound like it gives the home team an advantage to pick their matchups, but if the other team doesn't like the matchup can't they just make a line change at any time to adjust?

 

2) How are +/- stats calculated? I understand that they are the differential in scoring while the player is on the ice, but can't that be deceiving if someone is involved in a lot of power players or penalty killing. For example, wouldn't a player on a penalty-killing line be at a disadvantage because his line is more likely to be scored on?

 

3) If postseason hockey can survive just fine without fighting, why is it necessary in the regular season? I really don't understand the two seperate sets of rules. Either allow fighting or don't, but it doesn't make sense to change the rules once the playoffs start.

 

1) Whenever there is a stoppage of play, the home team doesn't have to send out its players until the road team has sent out theirs, meaning they get to choose who plays against who after every whistle.

 

2) +/- does not include power-play goals for or penalty-kill goals against. It *does* count shorthanded goals for and against.

 

3) Don't get me started.

[Irrelevant Dude]

The last change just means exactly that. The home team gets to have the last line change, which is usually supposed to give you somewhat of a strategic advantage when you're at home.

But can't teams change lines whenever they want? I don't understand the concept of a "last change".

[Flames24Rulz]

1) What does it mean to have the "last change"? The announcers make it sound like it gives the home team an advantage to pick their matchups, but if the other team doesn't like the matchup can't they just make a line change at any time to adjust?

 

2) How are +/- stats calculated? I understand that they are the differential in scoring while the player is on the ice, but can't that be deceiving if someone is involved in a lot of power players or penalty killing. For example, wouldn't a player on a penalty-killing line be at a disadvantage because his line is more likely to be scored on?

 

3) If postseason hockey can survive just fine without fighting, why is it necessary in the regular season? I really don't understand the two seperate sets of rules. Either allow fighting or don't, but it doesn't make sense to change the rules once the playoffs start.

 

2) +/- does not include power-play goals for or penalty-kill goals against. It *does* count shorthanded goals for and against.

 

Correct, forgot to add that in there. Knew I forgot something.

[imb]

fun game to watch but why did the blackhawks steal the red sox victory song

[Irrelevant Dude]

1) Whenever there is a stoppage of play, the home team doesn't have to send out its players until the road team has sent out theirs, meaning they get to choose who plays against who after every whistle.

Ah ha! That explains it. Thank you, and Flames24Rulz also.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The last change just means exactly that. The home team gets to have the last line change, which is usually supposed to give you somewhat of a strategic advantage when you're at home.

But can't teams change lines whenever they want? I don't understand the concept of a "last change".

 

You can try. But if you try to change when the other team has the puck or when you have it in your own zone, you are leaving yourself wide open for an easy goal. You can only change when you get the puck deep into the opponent's zone, and even then you are giving up possession of the puck in order to get your change.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

One of the reason the Blackhawks are successful on the road is that Quenneville is *fanatical* about getting the matchups he wants even without last change. If he doesn't like the matchup, the Hawks will *immediately* dump the puck and change every single time. It's maddening, but it works.

[bcl412]

I'm an admitted bandwagon fan who watched a little bit of hockey in the 90's Roenick/Chelios era, but didn't start watching semi-regularly until last season. As I'm starting to pick up some of the strategies and intricacies, I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone can answer.

 

1) What does it mean to have the "last change"? The announcers make it sound like it gives the home team an advantage to pick their matchups, but if the other team doesn't like the matchup can't they just make a line change at any time to adjust?

 

2) How are +/- stats calculated? I understand that they are the differential in scoring while the player is on the ice, but can't that be deceiving if someone is involved in a lot of power players or penalty killing. For example, wouldn't a player on a penalty-killing line be at a disadvantage because his line is more likely to be scored on?

 

3) If postseason hockey can survive just fine without fighting, why is it necessary in the regular season? I really don't understand the two seperate sets of rules. Either allow fighting or don't, but it doesn't make sense to change the rules once the playoffs start.

 

Fighting is legal in the playoffs. It just doesn't happen as much.

 

Legal in the sense that it's not a game misconduct.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The team with home-ice advantage that starts out 2-0 in the Finals is 32-2 in the series.

[bukie]

The team with home-ice advantage that starts out 2-0 in the Finals is 32-2 in the series.

Although one of the losses was last year.

[Hall7810]

Pronger shot a balled up rally towel at Eager, after the game was over.