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Not necessarily '10-'11 news, but IU gets verbal commitment from 2014 (!) G James Blackmon, Jr. If it sticks this is a great get for Tom Crean.

 

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Calipari should be out of NCAA by then, so it's one less coach to worry about poaching him

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Not necessarily '10-'11 news, but IU gets verbal commitment from 2014 (!) G James Blackmon, Jr. If it sticks this is a great get for Tom Crean.

 

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Calipari should be out of NCAA by then, so it's one less coach to worry about poaching him

 

Finally, something we can agree on. :wink:

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OK, now I'm feeling old. I was already an adult when James Blackmon Sr. was a high schooler at Marion and then a college player at UK.
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Name me one thing Calipari has done wrong.

Lol, at this point you have to be joking. Hey when is that lawsuit from Kentucky or the Davis' family coming against the Sun Times?

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What's the difference between that Turkish guy and someone like Chris Weinke going from minor league baseball to college football?

 

Getting paid for that sport, I'm pretty sure.

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That doesn't seem like a material difference to me.

 

Really? Seems like it's the whole point to me. If you're on a football scholarship what does it matter if your job before enrolling was minor league outfielder or pizza delivery guy? On the other hand, if you got paid for the sport you're receiving a scholarship to play as an amateur...

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That doesn't seem like a material difference to me.

 

Really? Seems like it's the whole point to me. If you're on a football scholarship what does it matter if your job before enrolling was minor league outfielder or pizza delivery guy? On the other hand, if you got paid for the sport you're receiving a scholarship to play as an amateur...

 

Is it the whole point? I think it's just another random NCAA bylaw that doesn't require any public justification because hey, they're the NCAA.

 

Plus wasn't Jeremy Bloom declared ineligible to play football because he was a professional skier? Doesn't that disprove the thesis that playing the same sport professionally and then as an amateur is the "whole point" ?

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That doesn't seem like a material difference to me.

 

Really? Seems like it's the whole point to me. If you're on a football scholarship what does it matter if your job before enrolling was minor league outfielder or pizza delivery guy? On the other hand, if you got paid for the sport you're receiving a scholarship to play as an amateur...

 

Is it the whole point? I think it's just another random NCAA bylaw that doesn't require any public justification because hey, they're the NCAA.

 

Plus wasn't Jeremy Bloom declared ineligible to play football because he was a professional skier? Doesn't that disprove the thesis that playing the same sport professionally and then as an amateur is the "whole point" ?

 

I'm not going to argue the NCAA is completely logical. I think the idea that you can't get paid for playing a sport then go back and play as an amateur is a sound one.

 

Bloom was ineligible because he had endorsement deals.

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In theory, Usain Bolt could stop being a millionaire sprinter and go play college football anywhere in America while some guy scratching out a living playing obscure European pro basketball can't play college basketball. Why is one ok and one not?

 

Are engineers stopped from returning to college for further engineering education because they're already making a living as an engineer? What's the difference?

 

I think the public reflexively takes the NCAAs bylaws as fair and sound when they have no real, logical hurdles to overcome.

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In theory, Usain Bolt could stop being a millionaire sprinter and go play college football anywhere in America while some guy scratching out a living playing obscure European pro basketball can't play college basketball. Why is one ok and one not?

 

Are engineers stopped from returning to college for further engineering education because they're already making a living as an engineer? What's the difference?

 

I think the public reflexively takes the NCAAs bylaws as fair and sound when they have no real, logical hurdles to overcome.

Because in basketball the kid isn't an amateur. Since the NCAA is amatuer athletics, professionals arn't allowed to play it.

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In theory, Usain Bolt could stop being a millionaire sprinter and go play college football anywhere in America while some guy scratching out a living playing obscure European pro basketball can't play college basketball. Why is one ok and one not?

 

Are engineers stopped from returning to college for further engineering education because they're already making a living as an engineer? What's the difference?

 

I think the public reflexively takes the NCAAs bylaws as fair and sound when they have no real, logical hurdles to overcome.

Because in basketball the kid isn't an amateur. Since the NCAA is amatuer athletics, professionals arn't allowed to play it.

 

By that logic Michael Jordan is still a professional basketball player.

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The one thing I never figured out is how baseball players are allowed to have advisers when they're drafted in HS or their junior year, not sign with a team, and then play college ball. The James Paxton thing alone gave me a massive headache.
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In theory, Usain Bolt could stop being a millionaire sprinter and go play college football anywhere in America while some guy scratching out a living playing obscure European pro basketball can't play college basketball. Why is one ok and one not?

 

Are engineers stopped from returning to college for further engineering education because they're already making a living as an engineer? What's the difference?

 

I think the public reflexively takes the NCAAs bylaws as fair and sound when they have no real, logical hurdles to overcome.

Because in basketball the kid isn't an amateur. Since the NCAA is amatuer athletics, professionals arn't allowed to play it.

 

By that logic Michael Jordan is still a professional basketball player.

No not at all, once you are paid you aren't an amateur.

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What's the difference between that Turkish guy and someone like Chris Weinke going from minor league baseball to college football?

 

Getting paid for that sport, I'm pretty sure.

 

Different sports, plus Weinke and even Ricky Williams were not on scholorship but more considered walk-on status. Still even at that it is tricky, going back to that professional skier who also played at Colorado not being able recieving endorsement money. Johnny Evans or something like that.

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In theory, Usain Bolt could stop being a millionaire sprinter and go play college football anywhere in America while some guy scratching out a living playing obscure European pro basketball can't play college basketball. Why is one ok and one not?

 

Are engineers stopped from returning to college for further engineering education because they're already making a living as an engineer? What's the difference?

 

I think the public reflexively takes the NCAAs bylaws as fair and sound when they have no real, logical hurdles to overcome.

 

To what extent should this logic be carried out. Can Lebron play for Kentucky on his off days?

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