Kingman Konspiracy

[CliftonHanger]

Great article. This had my head spinning.

 

http://baseballevolution.com/asher/00017.html

[daske17]

Quite a few leaps in logic and circumstantial evidence, not only in this article but also his Bagwell conspiracy.

 

Interesting reading though.

[MWV]

"Then, in 1990, out of nowhere, Fielder suddenly appears out of nowhere and starts doing

things that no mere mortal can do, seemingly out of nowhere."

 

I'm convinced of one thing: No one truly knows the nebulous origins Cecil Feilder. Show us your birth certificate, Cecil!

[jersey cubs fan]

Great article. This had my head spinning.

 

http://baseballevolution.com/asher/00017.html

 

Was your head spinning because it is so poorly written? I'm not sure what the revelation is supposed to be. A bunch of guys in the 70's and 80's also did steroids? Yeah, who didn't know that? Steroids were a huge story throughout the 80's and they were all over sports.

[SouthSideRyan]

I only got about halfway through before I assumed it was a (bad) joke post. If it was serious...yeesh.

[Pushfrog98]

"Then, in 1990, out of nowhere, Fielder suddenly appears out of nowhere and starts doing

things that no mere mortal can do, seemingly out of nowhere."

 

I'm convinced of one thing: No one truly knows the nebulous origins Cecil Feilder. Show us your birth certificate, Cecil!

Was it out of nowhere?

[CliftonHanger]

nowhere nowhere nowhere

[Clem Fandango]

I like how in this conspiracy if you were even associated with the team or any player, you're guilty. I also like how steroids is treated like one specific thing that was passed on from generation to generation like a secret magical power, and not something that anyone could get anywhere at any time they wanted. It all had to stem from one specific person.

 

Please. In the 80's, all they had to do was go to a friggin' Golds Gym and ask around. They didn't need Dave Kingman to spread the word about steroids. This was such a stupid POS article, if you can even call it that (an article, not a POS. It's definitly a POS).

[Rob]

Wow.

 

Articles like that are the reason that the public is stupid.

[Guest]

I like how in this conspiracy if you were even associated with the team or any player, you're guilty. I also like how steroids is treated like one specific thing that was passed on from generation to generation like a secret magical power, and not something that anyone could get anywhere at any time they wanted. It all had to stem from one specific person.

 

Please. In the 80's, all they had to do was go to a friggin' Golds Gym and ask around. They didn't need Dave Kingman to spread the word about steroids. This was such a stupid POS article, if you can even call it that (an article, not a POS. It's definitly a POS).

 

That and how he implies that you have to be a teammate of somebody who uses steroids to start using steroids yourself. Like player A on the Rangers couldn't talk to Player B on the Athletics about steroids and start using. No, Player A had to wait until Player B switched teams and came to the Rangers before he could start using.

[daske17]

The Bagwell article was even more far-reaching. Basically, through six degrees of Jeff Bagwell everyone in MLB was using steroids through his dealer. Funny how Bagwell's name never came up in any of the investigations though.

 

I sent the author an email asking if he had any evidence beyond conjecture to support his claims. I'll post with any updates.

[daske17]

And the author's reply:

 

Sorry for the confusion - I don't know which version of the The Bagwell Conspiracy you read, but the one on our site states that the article was a satire, and not intended to be taken as true. I don't think a disclaimer is necessary for the Kingman piece - that one is goofy enough not to need to make clear that it is a joke.

 

It is a sad statement on the game of baseball that, in 2009, people regularly read my Bagwell piece and take it seriously. In 2004, when I wrote it, everyone thought it was a joke, but that was a time when the idea that everyone in baseball was on steroids was preposterous. Not any more. I think that tells you that baseball fans are now so jaded that they'll believe anybody is on steroids, and and rightfully so.

 

When people hold out Albert Pujols as the "post-steroids" hero, I am incredulous. Knowing everything we know, how can we possible ASSUME Pujols is clean?

 

Thanks for reading.

[Clem Fandango]

And the author's reply:

 

Sorry for the confusion - I don't know which version of the The Bagwell Conspiracy you read, but the one on our site states that the article was a satire, and not intended to be taken as true. I don't think a disclaimer is necessary for the Kingman piece - that one is goofy enough not to need to make clear that it is a joke.

 

It is a sad statement on the game of baseball that, in 2009, people regularly read my Bagwell piece and take it seriously. In 2004, when I wrote it, everyone thought it was a joke, but that was a time when the idea that everyone in baseball was on steroids was preposterous. Not any more. I think that tells you that baseball fans are now so jaded that they'll believe anybody is on steroids, and and rightfully so.

 

When people hold out Albert Pujols as the "post-steroids" hero, I am incredulous. Knowing everything we know, how can we possible ASSUME Pujols is clean?

 

Thanks for reading.

 

Well then that explains it.