There is NO excuse for this train wreck.

[jersey cubs fan]

How many runs would the D-Backs have scored without a roided (allegedly) up Luis Gonzalez? I'd say the Diamondbacks being 4th in the league in home runs, 4th in slugging, 4th in OBP, and 3rd in walks is the reason they had a good offense, more than getting the runner over and sac bunting.

 

Once again, show me ANY team that has won the WS that wasn't talented. This is just a ridiculous stance to take.

 

"Oh, Brenly had a good team, so that's why he won". :roll:

 

But your stance is they won because he personally figured out a way to maximize their scoring chances. Why did they stop maximizing a couple years later?

[ChiCubsfan0502]

If he's so good, why has he managed one team for four years? He won a WS and was fired 2.5 years later, and hasn't gotten a job sense despite all sorts of turnover. If he is capable of making offenses click at a better rate than other managers, why hasn't anybody seen fit to give him a job in the 5 offseasons since he was canned?

 

 

He's just a guy who held the title. He's not a guru. He will not make an offense better. He will not maximize scoring opportunities or create a well oiled finely tuned machine.

 

You know he wouldn't? What crystal ball do you use?

[rocket]

How many runs would the D-Backs have scored without a roided (allegedly) up Luis Gonzalez? I'd say the Diamondbacks being 4th in the league in home runs, 4th in slugging, 4th in OBP, and 3rd in walks is the reason they had a good offense, more than getting the runner over and sac bunting.

 

Once again, show me ANY team that has won the WS that wasn't talented. This is just a ridiculous stance to take.

 

"Oh, Brenly had a good team, so that's why he won". :roll:

 

The point is that this Cubs team apparently isn't all that talented, so what would hiring Bob Brenly do? Brenly proved he could win with the best 1-2 punch in starting rotation history coupled with a good offense. His managerial style didn't win anything, the talent did. So what good is firing Lou and hiring Bob going to do? Having Bob tell the Cubs to move runners over and hit more sac bunts won't make the 2009 Cubs any better.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

How many runs would the D-Backs have scored without a roided (allegedly) up Luis Gonzalez? I'd say the Diamondbacks being 4th in the league in home runs, 4th in slugging, 4th in OBP, and 3rd in walks is the reason they had a good offense, more than getting the runner over and sac bunting.

 

Once again, show me ANY team that has won the WS that wasn't talented. This is just a ridiculous stance to take.

 

"Oh, Brenly had a good team, so that's why he won". :roll:

 

But your stance is they won because he personally figured out a way to maximize their scoring chances. Why did they stop maximizing a couple years later?

 

LOL! I NEVER said that the D-Backs won because of Brenly. I said that he is a guy who's teams ( when they have talent like any other good team) play smart, sound baseball.

 

He's also a well balanced manager as far as when and when not to play small ball, which the 2001 D-Backs perfectly prove.

[jersey cubs fan]

If he's so good, why has he managed one team for four years? He won a WS and was fired 2.5 years later, and hasn't gotten a job sense despite all sorts of turnover. If he is capable of making offenses click at a better rate than other managers, why hasn't anybody seen fit to give him a job in the 5 offseasons since he was canned?

 

 

He's just a guy who held the title. He's not a guru. He will not make an offense better. He will not maximize scoring opportunities or create a well oiled finely tuned machine.

 

You know he wouldn't? What crystal ball do you use?

 

I know he won't because baseball lineups aren't machines. They can't be finely tuned. They will win or lose based on the players on the field.

[jersey cubs fan]

How many runs would the D-Backs have scored without a roided (allegedly) up Luis Gonzalez? I'd say the Diamondbacks being 4th in the league in home runs, 4th in slugging, 4th in OBP, and 3rd in walks is the reason they had a good offense, more than getting the runner over and sac bunting.

 

Once again, show me ANY team that has won the WS that wasn't talented. This is just a ridiculous stance to take.

 

"Oh, Brenly had a good team, so that's why he won". :roll:

 

But your stance is they won because he personally figured out a way to maximize their scoring chances. Why did they stop maximizing a couple years later?

 

LOL! I NEVER said that the D-Backs won because of Brenly. I said that he is a guy who's teams ( when they have talent like any other good team) play smart, sound baseball.

 

He's also a well balanced manager as far as when and when not to play small ball, which the 2001 D-Backs perfectly prove.

 

What teams? He has managed one team. He won one WS, then shortly after his team got really bad and he's done nothing but rant and rave about making things happen on the basepaths in a booth.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

If he's so good, why has he managed one team for four years? He won a WS and was fired 2.5 years later, and hasn't gotten a job sense despite all sorts of turnover. If he is capable of making offenses click at a better rate than other managers, why hasn't anybody seen fit to give him a job in the 5 offseasons since he was canned?

 

 

He's just a guy who held the title. He's not a guru. He will not make an offense better. He will not maximize scoring opportunities or create a well oiled finely tuned machine.

 

You know he wouldn't? What crystal ball do you use?

 

I know he won't because baseball lineups aren't machines. They can't be finely tuned. They will win or lose based on the players on the field.

 

BS! If you don't think a managers in game decision making is important, well, I can't even begin to understand that logic.

[ChiCubsfan0502]

How many runs would the D-Backs have scored without a roided (allegedly) up Luis Gonzalez? I'd say the Diamondbacks being 4th in the league in home runs, 4th in slugging, 4th in OBP, and 3rd in walks is the reason they had a good offense, more than getting the runner over and sac bunting.

 

Once again, show me ANY team that has won the WS that wasn't talented. This is just a ridiculous stance to take.

 

"Oh, Brenly had a good team, so that's why he won". :roll:

 

But your stance is they won because he personally figured out a way to maximize their scoring chances. Why did they stop maximizing a couple years later?

 

LOL! I NEVER said that the D-Backs won because of Brenly. I said that he is a guy who's teams ( when they have talent like any other good team) play smart, sound baseball.

 

He's also a well balanced manager as far as when and when not to play small ball, which the 2001 D-Backs perfectly prove.

 

What teams? He has managed one team. He won one WS, then shortly after his team got really bad and he's done nothing but rant and rave about making things happen on the basepaths in a booth.

 

Are you telling me that Brenly doesn't know what he's talking about in the booth? He seems to be spot on almost all the time.

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He's also a well balanced manager as far as when and when not to play small ball, which the 2001 D-Backs perfectly prove.

In 2001 the D-Backs were 26th out 30 teams in Sac Bunts and 5th in Sac Flies. What that tells me is that they weren't playing too much small ball.

 

When they stopped winning in 2003 and 2004 (had a worse offense) Brenly started using the Sac Bunt more often.

 

Brenly is a moron who I cannot stand to listen to.

[Tarver]

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[Exile on Waveland]

As long as past performance is the calculus, I propose the Cubs hire a proven winner as manager. Someone who, like Brenly, has won a World Series. However, this person has won even more games (1,737-303), more games in a single season (116-98), and managed a team in a superior run producing way (927-819). Therefore, it's obvious this manager is preferable to Brenly.

[jersey cubs fan]

As long as past performance is the calculus, I propose the Cubs hire a proven winner as manager. Someone who, like Brenly, has won a World Series. However, this person has won even more games (1,737-303), more games in a single season (116-98), and managed a team in a superior run producing way (927-819). Therefore, it's obvious this manager is preferable to Brenly.

 

On that note, where did all this Brenly nonsense start? Was there a rumor, was somebody just calling for a change at manager?

[dew1679666265]

As long as past performance is the calculus, I propose the Cubs hire a proven winner as manager. Someone who, like Brenly, has won a World Series. However, this person has won even more games (1,737-303), more games in a single season (116-98), and managed a team in a superior run producing way (927-819). Therefore, it's obvious this manager is preferable to Brenly.

 

On that note, where did all this Brenly nonsense start? Was there a rumor, was somebody just calling for a change at manager?

 

Someone asked who Hendry (or whoever) might look at if Lou were fired/retired after the year. Brenly's name was brought and it went from there.

[Soul]

As long as past performance is the calculus, I propose the Cubs hire a proven winner as manager. Someone who, like Brenly, has won a World Series. However, this person has won even more games (1,737-303), more games in a single season (116-98), and managed a team in a superior run producing way (927-819). Therefore, it's obvious this manager is preferable to Brenly.

 

On that note, where did all this Brenly nonsense start? Was there a rumor, was somebody just calling for a change at manager?

 

Someone asked who Hendry (or whoever) might look at if Lou were fired/retired after the year. Brenly's name was brought and it went from there.

 

People have been talking about Brenly for manager ever since he joined the booth.

 

He's the easiest name to come up with when the Cubs start dropping games and people get angry.

[dew1679666265]

As long as past performance is the calculus, I propose the Cubs hire a proven winner as manager. Someone who, like Brenly, has won a World Series. However, this person has won even more games (1,737-303), more games in a single season (116-98), and managed a team in a superior run producing way (927-819). Therefore, it's obvious this manager is preferable to Brenly.

 

On that note, where did all this Brenly nonsense start? Was there a rumor, was somebody just calling for a change at manager?

 

Someone asked who Hendry (or whoever) might look at if Lou were fired/retired after the year. Brenly's name was brought and it went from there.

 

People have been talking about Brenly for manager ever since he joined the booth.

 

He's the easiest name to come up with when the Cubs start dropping games and people get angry.

 

Yeah, I think Stone got more mentions for managerial duty when he was broadcasting Cub games too.

[Derwood]

this discussion is still going on?

[Sammy Sofa]

In 2001 the D-Backs were 26th out 30 teams in Sac Bunts and 5th in Sac Flies. What that tells me is that they weren't playing too much small ball.

 

QFT.