Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-27-2009

[chattbaseball]

 

5 left handed hitting outfielders now on the roster!

 

Tennessee has 3 outfielders, Daytona has 4. Any thoughts on how long Peoria is likely to keep 5?

[Little Slide Rooter]

 

5 left handed hitting outfielders now on the roster!

 

Tennessee has 3 outfielders, Daytona has 4. Any thoughts on how long Peoria is likely to keep 5?

 

Its time to poop or get off the pot with Colvin. Send him to Tenn to see if theres still a chance of him ever being worth a damn. At this rate, he'll be another DuBois/Fox/Snyder/Hoffpauir in his late 20's at best before they even consider calling him to the big leagues, if hes still with the organization, or the league for that matter by then.

 

As for Peoria, Kyler Burkes the only one whose been any better than brutal with the bat, so send him to Daytona.

[Outshined_One]

Its time to poop or get off the pot with Colvin. Send him to Tenn to see if theres still a chance of him ever being worth a damn. At this rate, he'll be another DuBois/Fox/Snyder/Hoffpauir in his late 20's at best before they even consider calling him to the big leagues, if hes still with the organization, or the league for that matter by then.

 

Colvin's going to get a free pass for a decent portion of the year due to his Tommy John Surgery and his nasty collision in the OF that resulted in him getting a concussion. He's going to need more time to recover from those things.

[chattbaseball]

From http://www.peoriachiefs.com:

 

The Chiefs got on the board in the bottom of the third. With two outs and nobody on base, Harrison recorded the Chiefs first hit of the game with an infield single to short. Vitters smacked a grounder, fielded on a diving stop by the shortstop Serrano who had no play at either base. Burke came up and just missed a three-run homer to right, instead settling for a double off the wall. Harrison scored easily on the play to make it 2-1 but Vitters was thrown out at the plate to end the inning as he tried to score all the way from first.

 

That's at least 5 doubles off the wall this year for him....I would like to believe those can become homers as he matures and progresses.

[ChiefsVoice]

 

5 left handed hitting outfielders now on the roster!

 

Tennessee has 3 outfielders, Daytona has 4. Any thoughts on how long Peoria is likely to keep 5?

 

As for Peoria, Kyler Burkes the only one whose been any better than brutal with the bat, so send him to Daytona.

 

Josh Harrison is playing more OF than IF here and his numbers are the best of those who do play in the OF average wise. And he is older than the others as the only college player.

[craig]

From http://www.peoriachiefs.com:

 

The Chiefs got on the board in the bottom of the third. With two outs and nobody on base, Harrison recorded the Chiefs first hit of the game with an infield single to short. Vitters smacked a grounder, fielded on a diving stop by the shortstop Serrano who had no play at either base. Burke came up and just missed a three-run homer to right, instead settling for a double off the wall. Harrison scored easily on the play to make it 2-1 but Vitters was thrown out at the plate to end the inning as he tried to score all the way from first.

 

That's at least 5 doubles off the wall this year for him....I would like to believe those can become homers as he matures and progresses.

 

That's a good point. Burke has some plusses, the very good arm and apparently pretty decent corner defense. His current career-high BA benefits from a .370 BABIP, which I don't think he'll sustain.

 

He's still a high-K guy. Last year he K'd 28% of his AB, this year 22% and he really hasn't hit a slump yet. I hope he continues to be able to curtail his K-rate, I'd like to see that get below 20% or less, and perhaps with experience that will happen. But when a guy is still K'ing that much in A- in his 4th year as a pro, I suspect that Burke is always going to be K-oriented. Assuming he always K's fairly much, it's critical that he eventually hits enough HR's to sustain a decent BA/OBP despite the K's. If the guy has a normal/good BABIP (say .310, for example), and has a high K rate (say 22%, for example), a 25-HR guy can hit in the .270's, but a 10-HR guy will hit .250.

 

For Burke as a strong-armed corner, winning teams could start him as a .275BA/25HR guy. But they won't as a .250BA/10HR K-guy.

 

So I think it's critical that he hit enough HR's to keep not only his slugging but also his average and OBP up, and to offset the K's. Hopefully that will happen.

[Guest]

Yeah, promote Josh Harrison if you think Daytona needs an OF. Let Kyler Burke have some sustained success at the same level. He's bounced around between the MWL and NWL quite a bit the past few seasons.

 

LLF, not everyone who hits well for a few weeks or even a few months needs to immediately get promoted.

[Guest]

Kyler Burke story in the PJ Star: http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x313661300/ARMED-IN-OUTFIELD

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yeah, promote Josh Harrison if you think Daytona needs an OF. Let Kyler Burke have some sustained success at the same level. He's bounced around between the MWL and NWL quite a bit the past few seasons.

 

LLF, not everyone who hits well for a few weeks or even a few months needs to immediately get promoted.

 

Thats true, but if they plan on promoting someone, wouldnt they rather the one who is experiencing some success? The other 4 have been awful.

[Outshined_One]

Yeah, promote Josh Harrison if you think Daytona needs an OF. Let Kyler Burke have some sustained success at the same level. He's bounced around between the MWL and NWL quite a bit the past few seasons.

 

LLF, not everyone who hits well for a few weeks or even a few months needs to immediately get promoted.

 

Thats true, but if they plan on promoting someone, wouldnt they rather the one who is experiencing some success? The other 4 have been awful.

 

Sometimes the Cubs have hitters do things that go against their statistical success. I know in the past they've ordered some guys not to swing or to swing only in enormously limited circumstances. Other times they'll tweak guys' swing mechanics or something else, which could result in an adjustment/slump period.

 

Yeah, typically the guys who get promoted are doing well. However, sometimes guys will get promoted for reasons beyond their numbers.

[chattbaseball]

Yeah, promote Josh Harrison if you think Daytona needs an OF. Let Kyler Burke have some sustained success at the same level. He's bounced around between the MWL and NWL quite a bit the past few seasons.

 

LLF, not everyone who hits well for a few weeks or even a few months needs to immediately get promoted.

 

Raisin, I have to agree with you. For his own sake, I think it would do him well to be successful at this level for the entire season. He's still relatively young, so it's not going to put him behind to play all year in the MWL.

 

It could put the Chiefs in a bind though if Harrison was sent to Daytona, leaving only Lake and Flaherty to play the middle infield. Maybe everything should just stay as-is for now.