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It's been a weird relationship with Tony and a lot of Cardinal fans. He's not Herzog, so he'll never be a good manager in a lot of people's eyes. It's similar to Ditka here in Chicago.

I know he can come off as elitist, cocky and class A jerk. But, I look at his animal rescue foundation and other charity work, and the couple times I've been able to meet him in person, and I really believe he's a good person. It's kind of obvious that he's one of the best managers in the history of the game.

St. Louis won't really appreciate the job he's done till he's gone. I'm guessing that he and Duncan will be there for two, maybe three more years.

 

For what it's worth I like Lou as well. Couldn't stand Dusty, and still don't like him.

 

There's a reason he and Bob Knight are such good buddies, and I'm a big Knight fan. They're both bullies who need to be the center of attention and love to whine when things don't go their way. But those are also some of the characteristics that have made them both so successful over the years. If you don't kiss their butts, they either want nothing to do with you or attempt to belittle you until you do start kissing ass.

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It's been a weird relationship with Tony and a lot of Cardinal fans. He's not Herzog, so he'll never be a good manager in a lot of people's eyes. It's similar to Ditka here in Chicago.

I know he can come off as elitist, cocky and class A jerk. But, I look at his animal rescue foundation and other charity work, and the couple times I've been able to meet him in person, and I really believe he's a good person. It's kind of obvious that he's one of the best managers in the history of the game.

St. Louis won't really appreciate the job he's done till he's gone. I'm guessing that he and Duncan will be there for two, maybe three more years.

 

For what it's worth I like Lou as well. Couldn't stand Dusty, and still don't like him.

 

There's a reason he and Bob Knight are such good buddies, and I'm a big Knight fan. They're both bullies who need to be the center of attention and love to whine when things don't go their way. But those are also some of the characteristics that have made them both so successful over the years. If you don't kiss their butts, they either want nothing to do with you or attempt to belittle you until you do start kissing ass.

 

I can agree with that. Believe me, I see the personality faults. I also see how they may make him a pretty effective manager. I hate that he and Ozzie Smith, Scott Rolen, Van Slyke and other players I enjoyed watching have made no bones about not liking each other.

 

At the end of the day it's about winning, and he's done that.

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I find it pretty funny that ol Tony didnt have much to say about Welly hitting Soriano in the head. I remember Tony making comments about a baseball having no business around the head, and if you hit someone in the head you really shouldnt be in the majors. Tony is a hypocrite if Ive ever seen one.
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I find it pretty funny that ol Tony didnt have much to say about Welly hitting Soriano in the head. I remember Tony making comments about a baseball having no business around the head, and if you hit someone in the head you really shouldnt be in the majors. Tony is a hypocrite if Ive ever seen one.

He's playing games. He isn't dumb. He knows the hypocrisy of it, he just doesn't care. He's doing it on purpose, for a reason. He's hoping there are people like you on the other team who will get all worked up and make a mistake or melt down.

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I find it pretty funny that ol Tony didnt have much to say about Welly hitting Soriano in the head. I remember Tony making comments about a baseball having no business around the head, and if you hit someone in the head you really shouldnt be in the majors. Tony is a hypocrite if Ive ever seen one.

He's playing games. He isn't dumb. He knows the hypocrisy of it, he just doesn't care. He's doing it on purpose, for a reason. He's hoping there are people like you on the other team who will get all worked up and make a mistake or melt down.

 

Maybe he is not a hyprocrite. Except for his magical first half of 2008 you could make an argument that Wellemeyer actually shouldn't be in the majors. So Tony is not completely wrong here.

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he has a world series winner with a 83 win team, we got swept out of the playoffs with a 97 win team in the first round. Say what you want about the moron, his teams play their asses off, too bad the cubs never seem to do that
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he has a world series winner with a 83 win team, we got swept out of the playoffs with a 97 win team in the first round. Say what you want about the moron, his teams play their asses off, too bad the cubs never seem to do that

 

How about the 4 100 win teams LaRussa had with no championships to come from them?

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