Would you do this trade?

[rawaction]

Roto style league. Crap load of categories:

 

W, L, K, SV, HLD, ERA, WHIP, QS

 

My pitching staff is:

 

Starters

Oswalt

Lester

Lackey

G Floyd

D Price

Gio Gonzalez

S Marshall

 

Relievers

Nathan

Wood

Balfour

Devine

Morrow

 

I was counting on Price, Gonzalez and Morrow in the rotation, but the first 2 will start in the minors. Morrow in the pen. To help matters, Devine and Lackey start on the DL.

 

So, my question is....would you trade Brandon Morrow and Ian Stewart for AJ Burnett?

 

Stewart is currently my insurance at 2B for Mark Derosa, my weak spot on offense.

 

FYI, my offense is:

 

C- V Martinez

1B- Votto

2B- Derosa

SS- H Ramirez

3B- Longoria

OF- Holliday

OF- Kemp

OF- Quentin

U- Huff

 

Bench- Delgado, V Wells, I Stewart

[grassbass]

Roto style league. Crap load of categories:

 

W, L, K, SV, HLD, ERA, WHIP, QS

 

My pitching staff is:

 

Starters

Oswalt

Lester

Lackey

G Floyd

D Price

Gio Gonzalez

S Marshall

 

Relievers

Nathan

Wood

Balfour

Devine

Morrow

 

I was counting on Price, Gonzalez and Morrow in the rotation, but the first 2 will start in the minors. Morrow in the pen. To help matters, Devine and Lackey start on the DL.

 

So, my question is....would you trade Brandon Morrow and Ian Stewart for AJ Burnett?

 

Stewart is currently my insurance at 2B for Mark Derosa, my weak spot on offense.

 

FYI, my offense is:

 

C- V Martinez

1B- Votto

2B- Derosa

SS- H Ramirez

3B- Longoria

OF- Holliday

OF- Kemp

OF- Quentin

U- Huff

 

Bench- Delgado, V Wells, I Stewart

 

I would do that deal. Stewart isn't going to start on a regular basis (at least for now), and Morrow isn't exactly an elite closer. I hope for your sake Nathan's shoulder holds up.

[rawaction]

anyone else?

[anabiono]

that is a tough call, but seattle's pen is silly stupid and your pitching is pretty weak

 

just be ready for him to get shelled...burnett that is

[17 Seconds]

that is a tough call, but seattle's pen is silly stupid and your pitching is pretty weak

 

just be ready for him to get shelled...burnett that is

 

why?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Yes. Burnett's a better value than Morrow, and while I like Stewart, I don't think he's a lock for regular at bats, and you can find someone similar to replace his production if need be. Plus, DeRosa is fine for 2B anyway.

[The Logan]

that is a tough call, but seattle's pen is silly stupid and your pitching is pretty weak

 

just be ready for him to get shelled...burnett that is

 

why?

 

Because he's not really that good? He's also only been fully healthy during both his contract years. His average ERA jumped up quite a bit when he moved from FLA to TOR. His WHIP isn't anything to gawk at either. A.J. Burnett is pretty much useful for K's only. Granted on the Yankees he might get more wins now, but his inability to stay healthy for any year other than his contract year is unsettling, IMO

[anabiono]

is that asian pitcher for the braves still available kenshin or what have you?

 

what about edwin jackson?

 

they are bound to be better than burnett...just my 2 cents

[17 Seconds]

is that asian pitcher for the braves still available kenshin or what have you?

 

what about edwin jackson?

 

they are bound to be better than burnett...just my 2 cents

 

but based on what? i still don't understand why you think burnett will get lit up. and to take edwin jackson over him? that's ridiculous. the only problem with burnett is his health. when he's on the field, he's good. even last year, in his worst season since 2000, he was still good.

[17 Seconds]

that is a tough call, but seattle's pen is silly stupid and your pitching is pretty weak

 

just be ready for him to get shelled...burnett that is

 

why?

 

Because he's not really that good? He's also only been fully healthy during both his contract years. His average ERA jumped up quite a bit when he moved from FLA to TOR. His WHIP isn't anything to gawk at either. A.J. Burnett is pretty much useful for K's only. Granted on the Yankees he might get more wins now, but his inability to stay healthy for any year other than his contract year is unsettling, IMO

 

i admit the health part, but when does burnett get shelled? i agree he's a bit overrated, but he's still a good pitcher. his only problem is the walks, which drive his WHIP up a bit. his era isn't great but it's still good. his WHIP doesn't really help you but it shouldn't hurt you either.

 

like i said, i stay away from him because of health and his good-but-not-great numbers, but to take edwin jackson over him is just madness. there is no reason to think burnett will get lit up. he hasn't gotten lit up in almost a decade.

[anabiono]

in almost a decade?

 

really?

 

this is why taking burnett is a risk...look at his game log from last season...

 

up and down....and then up and down some more

 

just a couple of snippets

 

4/8 - 4.2 IP 10 H 6 R 6 ER

6/7 - 4.1 IP 10 H 8 R 6 ER

6/19 - 5 IP 8 H 8 R 8 ER

7/9 - 7 IP 7 H 7 ER

 

 

here is a link to the game log - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6314/gamelog;_ylt=Atb1vfa5eqf46z5covMV4AeFCLcF

 

just saying...maybe worth the trade maybe not...depending on if the rest of the pitching can absorb some of his numbers

 

i would much rather take a flyer on jackson...he has the possibility to put together a solid season...

[nilodnayr]

Do it. Although Burnett isn't the greatest your getting good value for a guy who isn't terribly good and will be closing in a murky situation for a crummy team and a Stewart isn't even a starter.

[17 Seconds]

in almost a decade?

 

really?

 

this is why taking burnett is a risk...look at his game log from last season...

 

up and down....and then up and down some more

 

just a couple of snippets

 

4/8 - 4.2 IP 10 H 6 R 6 ER

6/7 - 4.1 IP 10 H 8 R 6 ER

6/19 - 5 IP 8 H 8 R 8 ER

7/9 - 7 IP 7 H 7 ER

 

 

here is a link to the game log - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6314/gamelog;_ylt=Atb1vfa5eqf46z5covMV4AeFCLcF

 

just saying...maybe worth the trade maybe not...depending on if the rest of the pitching can absorb some of his numbers

 

i would much rather take a flyer on jackson...he has the possibility to put together a solid season...

 

so you're saying is he'll get shelled in a few games. sweet.

 

yes, he hasn't gotten shelled in almost a decade. the last time he had a below average season (when he was on the field) was 2000. there's a big difference between inconsistency and getting shelled. what matters is your overall numbers for the season. yup, he had a bad first half last season, and he made up for it in the second half.

 

i just don't understand where the "he's going to get shelled" stuff is coming from. i haven't seen a single reason why that's suddenly going to happen.

 

i also don't understand why you like jackson. he supposedly has good stuff. too bad he sucks. i have no idea how he kept his era so low last season. he walks a ton of guys but doesn't stikre anybody out. so far for his career he has a 1.63 whip with a 6.1 K/9 and almost as many walks as k's. his minor league numbers aren't very good either. he had a couple nice stints at aa and that's it.

[anabiono]

in almost a decade?

 

really?

 

this is why taking burnett is a risk...look at his game log from last season...

 

up and down....and then up and down some more

 

just a couple of snippets

 

4/8 - 4.2 IP 10 H 6 R 6 ER

6/7 - 4.1 IP 10 H 8 R 6 ER

6/19 - 5 IP 8 H 8 R 8 ER

7/9 - 7 IP 7 H 7 ER

 

 

here is a link to the game log - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6314/gamelog;_ylt=Atb1vfa5eqf46z5covMV4AeFCLcF

 

just saying...maybe worth the trade maybe not...depending on if the rest of the pitching can absorb some of his numbers

 

i would much rather take a flyer on jackson...he has the possibility to put together a solid season...

 

so you're saying is he'll get shelled in a few games. sweet.

 

yes, he hasn't gotten shelled in almost a decade. the last time he had a below average season (when he was on the field) was 2000. there's a big difference between inconsistency and getting shelled. what matters is your overall numbers for the season. yup, he had a bad first half last season, and he made up for it in the second half.

 

i just don't understand where the "he's going to get shelled" stuff is coming from. i haven't seen a single reason why that's suddenly going to happen.

 

i also don't understand why you like jackson. he supposedly has good stuff. too bad he sucks. i have no idea how he kept his era so low last season. he walks a ton of guys but doesn't stikre anybody out. so far for his career he has a 1.63 whip with a 6.1 K/9 and almost as many walks as k's. his minor league numbers aren't very good either. he had a couple nice stints at aa and that's it.

 

 

ok ok ok ...

 

i didn't know that you were defining shelled as "shelled within the constants of an entire season"...fine...you win that one i suppose...

 

but those lines up there are (shell) lines...

 

he is up and down is all i am saying...

 

jackson is just a gut feeling...i may very well be completely wrong...i accept that

 

i just don't trust burnett...simple as that...

 

i don't like taking guys on my fantasy team who you have to play russian roulette

[anabiono]

i would even say escobar may be a better option

 

starting to understand my distrust of burnett?

[TruffleShuffle]

that is a tough call, but seattle's pen is silly stupid and your pitching is pretty weak

 

just be ready for him to get shelled...burnett that is

 

why?

 

Because he's not really that good? He's also only been fully healthy during both his contract years. His average ERA jumped up quite a bit when he moved from FLA to TOR. His WHIP isn't anything to gawk at either. A.J. Burnett is pretty much useful for K's only. Granted on the Yankees he might get more wins now, but his inability to stay healthy for any year other than his contract year is unsettling, IMO

 

inability to stay healthy is totally different than getting shelled. burnett isn't worth $82M over 5 years, but he's generally a good pitcher when healthy.

[17 Seconds]

in almost a decade?

 

really?

 

this is why taking burnett is a risk...look at his game log from last season...

 

up and down....and then up and down some more

 

just a couple of snippets

 

4/8 - 4.2 IP 10 H 6 R 6 ER

6/7 - 4.1 IP 10 H 8 R 6 ER

6/19 - 5 IP 8 H 8 R 8 ER

7/9 - 7 IP 7 H 7 ER

 

 

here is a link to the game log - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6314/gamelog;_ylt=Atb1vfa5eqf46z5covMV4AeFCLcF

 

just saying...maybe worth the trade maybe not...depending on if the rest of the pitching can absorb some of his numbers

 

i would much rather take a flyer on jackson...he has the possibility to put together a solid season...

 

so you're saying is he'll get shelled in a few games. sweet.

 

yes, he hasn't gotten shelled in almost a decade. the last time he had a below average season (when he was on the field) was 2000. there's a big difference between inconsistency and getting shelled. what matters is your overall numbers for the season. yup, he had a bad first half last season, and he made up for it in the second half.

 

i just don't understand where the "he's going to get shelled" stuff is coming from. i haven't seen a single reason why that's suddenly going to happen.

 

i also don't understand why you like jackson. he supposedly has good stuff. too bad he sucks. i have no idea how he kept his era so low last season. he walks a ton of guys but doesn't stikre anybody out. so far for his career he has a 1.63 whip with a 6.1 K/9 and almost as many walks as k's. his minor league numbers aren't very good either. he had a couple nice stints at aa and that's it.

 

but those lines up there are (shell) lines...

 

i just don't trust burnett...simple as that...

 

i don't like taking guys on my fantasy team who you have to play russian roulette

 

Sabathia

 

3/31- 5.1 IP, 5 ER

4/11- 3 IP, 9 ER

4/16- 4 IP, 9 ER

 

Webb

 

6/17- 3.1 IP, 7 ER

8/26- 4.2 IP, 6 ER

8/31- 3.1 IP, 6 ER

9/6- 5.2 IP, 7 ER

 

Beckett

 

5/18- 7 IP, 6 ER

7/30- 5.1 IP, 7 ER

8/17- 2.1 IP, 8 ER

 

You can do this for a lot of guys. I just don't get why you'd pass up a guy who is usually good but sometimes has bad games (like pretty much every pitcher out there) for a guy who flat out sucks, especially for fantasy.

[rawaction]

I did the trade.

[rawaction]

Where's the stupid trade offers thread? I just got offered Rick Ankiel and Ryan Zimmerman for Evan Longoria. Nevermind it's a keeper league and he wants one of the best young studs in the game. Nevermind that my OF is Holliday, Kemp, Quentin, and my utility player is the hot hand between Delgado and Huff. So, neither player would be good enough to start for my team since Huff would play 3B over Zim and Delgado would be at U over both.

[The Logan]

Where's the stupid trade offers thread? I just got offered Rick Ankiel and Ryan Zimmerman for Evan Longoria. Nevermind it's a keeper league and he wants one of the best young studs in the game. Nevermind that my OF is Holliday, Kemp, Quentin, and my utility player is the hot hand between Delgado and Huff. So, neither player would be good enough to start for my team since Huff would play 3B over Zim and Delgado would be at U over both.

 

I started one here but it was way too early for anyone to post anything since most drafts hadn't taken place yet

 

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[ChiCubsFan]

Didn't want to start a new topic but I'm thinking about trading an OF for a C and wanted some input. Basic 5 cats plus OPS. My outfielders are Soriano, Dye, Hart, Nelson Cruz, Adam Lind, and Elijah Dukes. I start 3 OF and I usually put 1 at utility. I have Weiters as my catcher once he comes up and Chris Snyder starting at C now until Wieters comes up. So I'm thinking about trading either Lind or Dukes for either Posada or Pablo Sandoval. I was big on Sandoval but he's gotten off to a slow start (only a week so no big deal) and his eligibility at 3B and 1B would be useful to have him as a bench guy when Weiters comes up and rakes like I'm expecting. So...question is which OF would you rather give up and which catcher would you rather trade for? Thanks for the advice.

[nilodnayr]

Sandoval's value is shaky now that the Giant's picked up McPhearson and Posada has a decent chance of being replacement level. Why are you trading for a third catcher???

[ChiCubsFan]

Sandoval's value is shaky now that the Giant's picked up McPhearson and Posada has a decent chance of being replacement level. Why are you trading for a third catcher???

 

Two reasons. 1. I don't know when Weiters is going to be called up. 2. Snyder isn't do anything so far this year and trading an OF for a C would allow me to drop Snyder and pick up a setup man so I can compete in holds.

 

Basically I don't have anyone to drop to pick up a setup man, but I have 6 solid outfielders that can only play 4 spots (which includes the Util spot) so instead of dropping one of the outielders I would use them to upgrade from Snyder to Sandoval/Posada and then drop Snyder for a setup man.

[nilodnayr]

Sandoval's value is shaky now that the Giant's picked up McPhearson and Posada has a decent chance of being replacement level. Why are you trading for a third catcher???

 

Two reasons. 1. I don't know when Weiters is going to be called up. 2. Snyder isn't do anything so far this year and trading an OF for a C would allow me to drop Snyder and pick up a setup man so I can compete in holds.

 

Basically I don't have anyone to drop to pick up a setup man, but I have 6 solid outfielders that can only play 4 spots (which includes the Util spot) so instead of dropping one of the outielders I would use them to upgrade from Snyder to Sandoval/Posada and then drop Snyder for a setup man.

 

How much of an upgrade is snyder to sandoval/posada? Frankly I don't think that much. Don't get wrapped up in the fact that a guy doesn't start off the season well. Why don't you just trade one of those solid OFs for a really good set up man, rather than making a relatively lateral move at catcher by thinning out your OF depth to pick up a freely available player?