Jake Fox

[THISisTHEyear09]

Why cant this guy get a break. I dont know if anyone is thinking the same way but Jake could certainly help as a backup and a ph off the bench. Look at these numbers and say Fox shouldnt get a chance.

 

Player POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

1. M Hoffpauir 1B 23 71 13 21 5 1 4 19 40 5 15 0 0 .342 .563 .296

 

2. J Fox 1B 22 60 13 21 5 0 4 16 38 3 10 0 0 .400 .633 .350

 

3. P Bako C 13 31 4 11 2 0 1 5 16 2 7 0 0 .394 .516 .355

 

Looks like Fox has the best numbers of the three. Maybe Mangt. just doesnt like him but if I were managing the team I would give the kid a chance.

Edited March 25, 2009 by THISisTHEyear09

[17 Seconds]

if he could play any position adequately he'd probably make the team, but he can't

[Electron Blue]

Why cant this guy get a break. I dont know if anyone is thinking the same way but Jake could certainly help as a backup and a ph off the bench. Look at these numbers and say Fox shouldnt get a chance.

 

Player POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

1. M Hoffpauir 1B 23 71 13 21 5 1 4 19 40 5 15 0 0 .342 .563 .296

 

2. J Fox 1B 22 60 13 21 5 0 4 16 38 3 10 0 0 .400 .633 .350

 

3. P Bako C 13 31 4 11 2 0 1 5 16 2 7 0 0 .394 .516 .355

 

Looks like Fox has the best numbers of the three. Maybe Mangt. just doesnt like him but if I were managing the team I would give the kid a chance.

 

Welcome to the forum -- good first post.

 

Unfortunately, as many on here will tell you, Fox's inability to play any position well enough for the majors makes it really hard to find a spot for him on a big league team, even the bench.

[BigbadB1679666149]

He can't get a break for the same reason Micah Hoffpauir hasn't really gotten his break yet. If you aren't good enough to start at a particular position, you better be able to play several positions, because with limited bench spots, guys who can play several positions will get the nod over guys who can't.

[THISisTHEyear09]

If I am the Cubs right now after he had a good spring I trade him to a AL team that is in need of a DH.

[17 Seconds]

If I am the Cubs right now after he had a good spring I trade him to a AL team that is in need of a DH.

 

to be nice, or because you think you could get something?

[BigbadB1679666149]

If I am the Cubs right now after he had a good spring I trade him to a AL team that is in need of a DH.

 

That's all well and good, but there really isn't a whole lot of demand for AAAA type DH's. If they did trade him, they wouldn't get much in return.

 

I think most teams prefer guys who have already had some success hitting breaking pitches at the major league level getting those DH at bats.

 

To elaborate further, most teams already have a guy like Jake Fox in their system, but they aren't frothing at the mouth to get them in their big league line up.

[17 Seconds]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

[THISisTHEyear09]

Fox made 3 E's last year by the way, they seem to like Andres Blanco he made 23 E's last year.

[17 Seconds]

Fox made 3 E's last year by the way, they seem to like Andres Blanco he made 23 E's last year.

 

so are you trying to tell us fox isn't a bad defender? based on that?

[BigbadB1679666149]

Fox made 3 E's last year by the way, they seem to like Andres Blanco he made 23 E's last year.

 

Come on, now. How many errors do you think Fox would have if you stuck him at SS?

 

It's not hard to have a small amount of errors on your resume when you can only actually get a glove on a ball hit right at you.

[THISisTHEyear09]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

 

Team League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS

Just a little??: Jake Fox TEN SOU .307 105 388 76 119 29 1 25 79 225 46 73 4 2 .397 .580 .976

 

Idk maybe Im wrong, just think he's better than people think

Edited March 25, 2009 by THISisTHEyear09

[17 Seconds]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

 

 

Just a little??: Jake Fox TEN SOU .307 105 388 76 119 29 1 25 79 225 46 73 4 2 .397 .580 .976

 

Idk maybe Im wrong, just think he's better than people think

 

i never said he couldn't hit well at aa. hell, it would be pretty sad if a 25 year old without a position DIDN'T rake in aa

[XZero771679666304]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

 

 

Just a little??: Jake Fox TEN SOU .307 105 388 76 119 29 1 25 79 225 46 73 4 2 .397 .580 .976

 

Idk maybe Im wrong, just think he's better than people think

 

I think he's like a poor man's Jack Cust.

[Little Slide Rooter]

He can't get a break for the same reason Micah Hoffpauir hasn't really gotten his break yet. If you aren't good enough to start at a particular position, you better be able to play several positions, because with limited bench spots, guys who can play several positions will get the nod over guys who can't.

 

Everyone talks about Hoffs defensive ineptitude, which may be true regarding the ouitfield, but wasnt he voted the top defensive 1B in the PCL last year?

[THISisTHEyear09]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

 

 

Just a little??: Jake Fox TEN SOU .307 105 388 76 119 29 1 25 79 225 46 73 4 2 .397 .580 .976

 

Idk maybe Im wrong, just think he's better than people think

 

i never said he couldn't hit well at aa. hell, it would be pretty sad if a 25 year old without a position DIDN'T rake in aa

 

I belive M. Hoffpauir was 30 and in AAA last year so shouldnt he rake

[17 Seconds]

yeah fox can probably hit a little, but not well enough to be a dh.

 

 

Just a little??: Jake Fox TEN SOU .307 105 388 76 119 29 1 25 79 225 46 73 4 2 .397 .580 .976

 

Idk maybe Im wrong, just think he's better than people think

 

i never said he couldn't hit well at aa. hell, it would be pretty sad if a 25 year old without a position DIDN'T rake in aa

 

I belive M. Hoffpauir was 30 and in AAA last year so shouldnt he rake

 

he did rake in aaa for the past 2 seasons, better than fox. and he can actually play a position adequately.

[THISisTHEyear09]

Tell me how Fox is any different than D. Ward, he could never play a single position well

[Little Slide Rooter]

Im pretty sure if we check the AAA rosters around the league, wed find a lot of power hitters in their late 20's who will probably never be full time major leaguers, many because of their defense, some because they havnt tranlated their success in their chances in the majors, or they simply havnt been given enough of a chance in the majors to prove themselves. Fox falls in all 3 catagories.

[BigbadB1679666149]

He can't get a break for the same reason Micah Hoffpauir hasn't really gotten his break yet. If you aren't good enough to start at a particular position, you better be able to play several positions, because with limited bench spots, guys who can play several positions will get the nod over guys who can't.

 

Everyone talks about Hoffs defensive ineptitude, which may be true regarding the ouitfield, but wasnt he voted the top defensive 1B in the PCL last year?

 

It wouldn't be all that surprising. Playing defense at 1b is a lot different than playing defense in the outfield.

[17 Seconds]

Tell me how Fox is any different than D. Ward, he could never play a single position well

 

the daryle ward that the cubs let go?

 

jake fox could be fine as a journeyman bench player like ward. he just doesn't fit into this current team

 

plus ward is still probably more competent defensively than fox

[Little Slide Rooter]

Tell me how Fox is any different than D. Ward, he could never play a single position well

 

the daryle ward that the cubs let go?

 

jake fox could be fine as a journeyman bench player like ward. he just doesn't fit into this current team

 

plus ward is still probably more competent defensively than fox

 

Hes really not much different than D. Ward. or Josh Kroeger. or Micah Hoffpauir. or Jack Cust. or Randall Simon. Its just that some of these guys are lucky enough to get the opportunity and some arent. It all depends on the organization.

[THISisTHEyear09]

Im pretty sure if we check the AAA rosters around the league, wed find a lot of power hitters in their late 20's who will probably never be full time major leaguers, many because of their defense, some because they havnt tranlated their success in their chances in the majors, or they simply havnt been given enough of a chance in the majors to prove themselves. Fox falls in all 3 catagories.

 

 

I am not trying to make a case for him to start, Im just saying his bat should belong in the Majors. Maybe he sucks like everyone says he does.

[17 Seconds]

Im pretty sure if we check the AAA rosters around the league, wed find a lot of power hitters in their late 20's who will probably never be full time major leaguers, many because of their defense, some because they havnt tranlated their success in their chances in the majors, or they simply havnt been given enough of a chance in the majors to prove themselves. Fox falls in all 3 catagories.

 

 

I am not trying to make a case for him to start, Im just saying his bat should belong in the Majors. Maybe he sucks like everyone says he does.

 

nobody is saying he sucks. it's just that his defense and lack of position makes it really hard to find a spot for him. if he keeps hitting well he'll make it as a bench player somewhere eventually.

[XZero771679666304]

Im pretty sure if we check the AAA rosters around the league, wed find a lot of power hitters in their late 20's who will probably never be full time major leaguers, many because of their defense, some because they havnt tranlated their success in their chances in the majors, or they simply havnt been given enough of a chance in the majors to prove themselves. Fox falls in all 3 catagories.

 

 

I am not trying to make a case for him to start, Im just saying his bat should belong in the Majors. Maybe he sucks like everyone says he does.

 

No one is saying he sucks (offensively). It's just that his only role would be as a backup 1B/PH, which is filled by Hoffpauir. Fox would be redundant. It would be nice to have some RH pop off the bench, but there's nowhere else for him to play.