Mark Prior

[GhostRunner]

"Hey, Prior - that's some of the worst apple-hurling I've ever seen!"

 

And then I'd rush the mound and engage fisticuffs with the ruffian.

[biittner77]

"Hey, Prior - that's some of the worst apple-hurling I've ever seen!"

 

And then I'd rush the mound and engage fisticuffs with the ruffian.

 

"you look like a bunch of old men from the Spanish American War. A war that hasn't even been fought yet."

[Keeper]

People still care about Mark Prior?

[Sammy Sofa]

People still care about Mark Prior?

 

Gee, I wonder why.

[Guancous]

2012 Mark Prior = 2008 Cliff Lee.

 

I saw it on an Aztec calendar somewhere.

[Keeper]

People still care about Mark Prior?

 

Gee, I wonder why.

 

So, do I (without the sarcasm).

 

1. My 86-year old grandma is more durable than him.

2. He had 1 outstanding season.

3. He was a prime candidate for 'roids.

4. He was surly with the media.

5. He was mad that Joe Mauer was picked ahead of him in the draft.

 

Again, why do people care what happens to this douche?

Edited January 6, 2009 by Keeper

[17 Seconds]

yeah it's not like he would have been a perennial cy young candidate or anything if he stayed healthy. dude only had one good season! it's not like he was a high draft pick who dominated everywhere and had a monster season at an extremely young age.

 

who cares though. he was surly to the media

[Keeper]

And if he juiced? Would you still lament "what might have been"? :cry:

 

I mean, really, at least Mark Fidrych was likable. Next, people will be saying Rick Wilkins could have been a Mike Piazza.

[17 Seconds]

And if he juiced? Would you still lament "what might have been"? :cry:

 

I mean, really, at least Mark Fidrych was likable. Next, people will be saying Rick Wilkins could have been a Mike Piazza.

 

Huh? That makes no sense. Rick Wilkins was never going to be the Mike Piazza and was never even close being the prospect that Prior was. Stop comparing Prior as a prospect to Rick Wilkins. That's just dumb. Wilkins just had a good season. Nobody expected him to have it. People expected things from Prior. Is Evan Longoria just like Rick Wilkins too? Last offseason did you say Cole Hamels was just like Rick Wilkins? Ryan Braun?

 

I don't care about who is likeable. That gets you nowhere. I care about who is good. Mark Prior was very very good. His monster 2003 wasn't a fluke. Not only was it not a fluke, but he did it at an extremely young age. I like that. I don't care if he is mean to old people or kicks dogs. I want to win. We're supposed to be okay watching a young superstar starting pitcher uinder our control fall apart because he might not have seemed nice sometimes? Give me a break. This isn't the Disney Channel, these are athletes. If you don't like athletes with attitudes then you probably shouldn't be watching sports.

 

Oh, and bringing up steroids is pretty ridiculous, and is an example of maybe the most tragic result of the steroid era. Now we have to conastantly deal with baseless accusations because maybe one or two signs point to a guy possible having juiced. Every out of nowhere season is "oh...steroids". Every time a player starts getting hurt... "he was a juice". Everytime a guy develops power... "he's a roider".

 

Let me ask you, are you a Geovany Soto fan? If you're saying you didn't like Prior because he might have juiced, then you can't really like Soto. I'm not saying Soto is juicing(because I don't think he is), but there are just as many signs that Soto roided up if you want to go there.

 

Really you don't have any remotely legit evidence to even suggest that Prior was ons teroids. What do yuou have? He started getting injured, and that he had big calves? You'd better be careful for condemning people for tony thingsl ike that. It's a slippery slope. Really neither of us have any idea if Prior was on steroids and there is certainly no evidence whatsoever. To suggest that we should be okay with the way he turned out because you THINK he MIGHT have POSSIBLY taken steroids is crazy.

Edited January 6, 2009 by 17 Seconds

[JimSorgi]

People still care about Mark Prior?

 

Gee, I wonder why.

 

So, do I (without the sarcasm).

 

1. My 86-year old grandma is more durable than him.

2. He had 1 outstanding season.

3. He was a prime candidate for 'roids.

4. He was surly with the media.

5. He was mad that Joe Mauer was picked ahead of him in the draft.

 

Again, why do people care what happens to this douche?

 

I really hope you're serious. This stuff is too funny.

[Keeper]

Lots of substance in that post, Jimmy. =D> If you're always a smug smart ass, you'll never get called out. Playing it safe. I may not agree with Dexter, but at least he had the decency to speak his mind in a somewhat constructive way.

 

Do us a favor, Jimbo. When your balls drop, let us know.

[JimSorgi]

Lots of substance in that post, Jimmy. =D> If you're always a smug smart ass, you'll never get called out. Playing it safe. I may not agree with Dexter, but at least he had the decency to speak his mind in a somewhat constructive way.

 

Do us a favor, Jimbo. When your balls drop, let us know.

I'm really not all that smug. btw, you're not supposed to say bad words. This is a family site. Anyway, I'll address your points.

 

1. My 86-year old grandma is more durable than him.

Maybe she is, I don't know her so I can't say.

 

2. He had 1 outstanding season.

He was also really good in college and in the minors. He was also good the other years, except he kept getting hurt.

 

3. He was a prime candidate for 'roids.

Umm...I don't know why he would be.

 

4. He was surly with the media.

I'm not sure how that matters. I don't think being nice makes you a better player.

 

5. He was mad that Joe Mauer was picked ahead of him in the draft.

Yeah, but only because the Twins wouldn't have let Dusty Baker kill his arm.

[Keeper]

I'm really not all that smug. btw, you're not supposed to say bad words. This is a family site.

 

I didn't say anything that wasn't warranted. The next time you feel the need to mock someone for no good reason, hopefully you'll think twice about it.

[JimSorgi]

I'm really not all that smug. btw, you're not supposed to say bad words. This is a family site.

 

I didn't say anything that wasn't warranted. The next time you feel the need to mock someone for no good reason, hopefully you'll think twice about it.

You betcha, you sure taught me a lesson. I'm really sorry.

[TruffleShuffle]

this guy has to be going for the career highest percentage of terrible posts (25 post minimum)

[Sammy Sofa]

The name "Keeper" is terribly ironic.

[Derwood]

Barry Bonds was surly to the media. And took roids. And isn't durable. Thus, he sucks at baseball.

[hossdriver]

And if he juiced? Would you still lament "what might have been"? :cry:

 

I mean, really, at least Mark Fidrych was likable. Next, people will be saying Rick Wilkins could have been a Mike Piazza.

 

Huh? That makes no sense. Rick Wilkins was never going to be the Mike Piazza and was never even close being the prospect that Prior was. Stop comparing Prior as a prospect to Rick Wilkins. That's just dumb. Wilkins just had a good season. Nobody expected him to have it. People expected things from Prior. Is Evan Longoria just like Rick Wilkins too? Last offseason did you say Cole Hamels was just like Rick Wilkins? Ryan Braun?

 

I don't care about who is likeable. That gets you nowhere. I care about who is good. Mark Prior was very very good. His monster 2003 wasn't a fluke. Not only was it not a fluke, but he did it at an extremely young age. I like that. I don't care if he is mean to old people or kicks dogs. I want to win. We're supposed to be okay watching a young superstar starting pitcher uinder our control fall apart because he might not have seemed nice sometimes? Give me a break. This isn't the Disney Channel, these are athletes. If you don't like athletes with attitudes then you probably shouldn't be watching sports.

 

Oh, and bringing up steroids is pretty ridiculous, and is an example of maybe the most tragic result of the steroid era. Now we have to conastantly deal with baseless accusations because maybe one or two signs point to a guy possible having juiced. Every out of nowhere season is "oh...steroids". Every time a player starts getting hurt... "he was a juice". Everytime a guy develops power... "he's a roider".

 

Let me ask you, are you a Geovany Soto fan? If you're saying you didn't like Prior because he might have juiced, then you can't really like Soto. I'm not saying Soto is juicing(because I don't think he is), but there are just as many signs that Soto roided up if you want to go there.

 

Really you don't have any remotely legit evidence to even suggest that Prior was ons teroids. What do yuou have? He started getting injured, and that he had big calves? You'd better be careful for condemning people for tony thingsl ike that. It's a slippery slope. Really neither of us have any idea if Prior was on steroids and there is certainly no evidence whatsoever. To suggest that we should be okay with the way he turned out because you THINK he MIGHT have POSSIBLY taken steroids is crazy.

 

 

 

I wouldn't call it evidence... However, he was a prodigy of Tom House, a prominent, admitted steroid user while pitching in the early 70's...

 

It was also Tom House, a self-proclaimed pitching expert, who proclaimed that Mark Prior had 'perfect mechanics'. A lot of people just bought the snake oil.

 

Rick Peterson predicted Mark Prior would have problems WAY before anyone else did.

 

If Mark Prior had half the pride, heart, and guts of Kerry Wood, I might give a crap about him...

[SouthSideRyan]

Kerry Wood has an enlarged heart and a tumor in his stomach.

[jersey cubs fan]

Draft Tex!

[Mephistopheles]

it only took keeper 28 posts...

[Bruno7481]

Kerry Wood has an enlarged heart and a tumor in his stomach.

 

I take offense to that SSR!

 

;)

[Keeper]

Barry Bonds was surly to the media. And took roids. And isn't durable. Thus, he sucks at baseball.

 

Comparing Barry Bonds to Mark Prior... nice try?

[Derwood]

Barry Bonds was surly to the media. And took roids. And isn't durable. Thus, he sucks at baseball.

 

Comparing Barry Bonds to Mark Prior... nice try?

 

just applying your water tight logic

[Keeper]

it only took keeper 28 posts...

 

At least five members have been incredibly rude to me from the get-go. I'm issued a warning for fighting fire with fire. It's beyond ridiculous. Guess if you're not in a clique or a longstanding member, you're not allowed to defend yourself.