2009 Chicago Bears offseason

[rchap24]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

Well I do as a Bears fan, but yeah obviously he's clearly doing in his best interest which I don't blame him...Douche move maybe was a little harsh

[Guest]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's what I think is the case.

 

I also wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't interview in the end.

[jersey cubs fan]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

[Guest]

Looking around the Internet some more, I'm getting the impression Hoke passed on an interview with UCLA when he joined with the Bears yesterday.

[minnesotacubsfan]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

 

 

not at all, in fact I've been in that situatin before where I accepted a posistion and later THAT DAY was offered an interview with a firm i liked more. I eventually ended up withthe firm I preferred, and eneded up appologizing to the former firm, but i had no way to predict that situation. it happens

[jersey cubs fan]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

 

 

not at all, in fact I've been in that situatin before where I accepted a posistion and later THAT DAY was offered an interview with a firm i liked more. I eventually ended up withthe firm I preferred, and eneded up appologizing to the former firm, but i had no way to predict that situation. it happens

 

Just because you did something similar doesn't make it any less of a douche move.

[Guest]

I heard Warren Sapp on The Score this morning, and he said that he's going to work one-on-one with Tommie Harris starting the Monday after the Super Bowl. I can't recall 100%, but I thought he said Rod Marinelli called him and asked him to contact Tommie.

 

He also said he wanted to look Tommie right in the eye so he could "see how bad he wants it."

 

I don't know about the rest of you, but that sounds kind of ominous to me.

 

You can listen to it here: http://www.670thescore.com/pages/3596918.php

 

Third one from the top.

 

Warren Sapp 1/14/2009

Mully & Hanley are joined by Inside The NFL Analyst Warren Sapp to talk about the Bears and the NFL. Warren goes into detail about Tommie Harris and what he needs to do to get better!

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Just because you did something similar doesn't make it any less of a douche move.

 

its sooo nice having you around.

[Soul]

So you're saying you go back on your word to someone because something that suits you more comes along? You don't think there's anything wrong with that? Where I work that could get my company sued.

[dew1679666265]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

 

He's probably just trying to get a raise from the Bears so they can ensure they keep him. :wink:

[minnesotacubsfan]

So you're saying you go back on your word to someone because something that suits you more comes along? You don't think there's anything wrong with that? Where I work that could get my company sued.

 

 

I've recieved vastly more support for that dicision then ill feelings (the only ill feelings to date being gooney). It isnt uncommon, in my field, for things like that to happen, and it happens for a variety of reasons.

 

I understand the ill feelings towards him (as a Bears fan, and wanting good coaches), but the reality is that nothing is garaunteed. Accpeting a position is far from the chivalry "giving them my word" bs.

[Soul]

So you're saying you go back on your word to someone because something that suits you more comes along? You don't think there's anything wrong with that? Where I work that could get my company sued.

 

 

I've recieved vastly more support for that dicision then ill feelings (the only ill feelings to date being gooney). It isnt uncommon, in my field, for things like that to happen, and it happens for a variety of reasons.

 

I understand the ill feelings towards him (as a Bears fan, and wanting good coaches), but the reality is that nothing is garaunteed. Accpeting a position is far from the chivalry "giving them my word" bs.

 

I'm not going to dig into you too much because I really don't know all the details. And it really doesn't matter what I think anyway ;)

 

Maybe it's just where I work. People (especially my customer contacts) really keep tracking of what is said, how it is portrayed, etc etc. Maintaining consistency of message versus results is ultra-important. When we stray from that, we tend to get into alot of trouble. And it's not always easy to keep track of. I always have to be mindful of what I said, what I promised -- what is going to actually happen.

[minnesotacubsfan]

the market here in mpls for architects is extremely volitale, it raises and falls far too much. you can work for a company for 15 years or 15 days, and be let go completely independant of your performance, or anything you have control over. its not a good set-up. it doesnt bread continuity. but,, at the end of the day, the individual has to learn how to work with in that system as well, or move away. its extremely competative, and momentum is paramount, giving your word is ignored.

 

I guess I see coaching jobs in the nfl and college being a similar enviroment in those regards.

[rchap24]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

 

He's probably just trying to get a raise from the Bears so they can ensure they keep him. :wink:

 

That definitely could be the case, but again that's a douche move to do to the Bears and like I said it's good in his best interest, but not us

[biittner77]

douche move? he's clearly doing what is best for him. maybe he wasnt aware he had the opportunity to interview with UCLA until after he accepted the db position. I really dont have an issue with this

 

That's nonsense. It's one thing to leave for greener pastures in the middle of a contract, but to interview again immediately after taking a job shows a complete lack of credibility.

 

 

not at all, in fact I've been in that situatin before where I accepted a posistion and later THAT DAY was offered an interview with a firm i liked more. I eventually ended up withthe firm I preferred, and eneded up appologizing to the former firm, but i had no way to predict that situation. it happens

 

Just because you did something similar doesn't make it any less of a douche move.

 

In fact the opposite is true. :D

[jersey cubs fan]

I guess I see coaching jobs in the nfl and college being a similar enviroment in those regards.

 

I don't.

 

Coaches just don't accept jobs and then go out interviewing for another one immediately, without criticism. It's not a generally accepted way to do business. They have contracts, they can get out of those contracts if they get offered a higher position elsewhere, but they do not quit the day after signing (and the day after praising Lovie and the organization).

[minnesotacubsfan]

sorry jersey, I think you are being extremely uptight about this, and I'm not sure Jon Hoke's hiring is a make or break move for the organization. sure, if he's the incoming GM or HC, but he's a db coach, who may have the opportunity to become a DC. Your right, he should be threatened with almight "accepted way of doing buisness". yea, that works.

 

besides, as raisen has poitned out, it all appears to be a mute point anyway

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

In fact the opposite is true.

 

whats that, since I've done something similar it proves that jersey is a douche? I think that rather unfair of you to imply, and I certainly wouldn't I'd go that far...

 

:D

[jersey cubs fan]

sorry jersey, I think you are being extremely uptight about this, and I'm not sure Jon Hoke's hiring is a make or break move for the organization. sure, if he's the incoming GM or HC, but he's a db coach, who may have the opportunity to become a DC. Your right, he should be threatened with almight "accepted way of doing buisness". yea, that works.

 

besides, as raisen has poitned out, it all appears to be a mute point anyway

 

moot

 

And if you think honoring your word is uptight, then, well, whatever.

 

And it's moot because it would be absurd if it happens. Sorry, but you're wrong. It is not a generally accepted practice to back out on a contract to coach a football team a day later. If he did it, it would be a douchey move, just like when Belichik bolted on the Jets minutes before his introduction to the press and New England had to give up draft picks.

[minnesotacubsfan]

sorry jersey, I think you are being extremely uptight about this, and I'm not sure Jon Hoke's hiring is a make or break move for the organization. sure, if he's the incoming GM or HC, but he's a db coach, who may have the opportunity to become a DC. Your right, he should be threatened with almight "accepted way of doing buisness". yea, that works.

 

besides, as raisen has poitned out, it all appears to be a mute point anyway

 

moot

 

And if you think honoring your word is uptight, then, well, whatever.

 

And it's moot because it would be absurd if it happens. Sorry, but you're wrong. It is not a generally accepted practice to back out on a contract to coach a football team a day later. If he did it, it would be a douchey move, just like when Belichik bolted on the Jets minutes before his introduction to the press and New England had to give up draft picks.

 

yea, Belichik +/- draft picks = Hoke. exactly.

 

it's absolutely mute.

[CUBZ99]

sorry jersey, I think you are being extremely uptight about this, and I'm not sure Jon Hoke's hiring is a make or break move for the organization. sure, if he's the incoming GM or HC, but he's a db coach, who may have the opportunity to become a DC. Your right, he should be threatened with almight "accepted way of doing buisness". yea, that works.

 

besides, as raisen has poitned out, it all appears to be a mute point anyway

 

moot

 

And if you think honoring your word is uptight, then, well, whatever.

 

And it's moot because it would be absurd if it happens. Sorry, but you're wrong. It is not a generally accepted practice to back out on a contract to coach a football team a day later. If he did it, it would be a douchey move, just like when Belichik bolted on the Jets minutes before his introduction to the press and New England had to give up draft picks.

 

I once committed to working at a firm, and passed up several other better job offers during my last year in school. I moved my family out of state and "kept my word" only to find out that after I had moved the firm was dissolving. Although things worked out great for me and I see your point, each person has to make their own decision and I don't see how MinnesotaCubs move was douchy. I'm sure if the firm that just hired him was contacted by someone "better" who would make them more money they would not hesitate to withdraw their job offer.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

I once committed to working at a firm, and passed up several other better job offers during my last year in school. I moved my family out of state and "kept my word" only to find out that after I had moved the firm was dissolving. Although things worked out great for me and I see your point, each person has to make their own decision and I don't see how MinnesotaCubs move was douchy. I'm sure if the firm that just hired him was contacted by someone "better" who would make them more money they would not hesitate to withdraw their job offer.

 

thank you...that is exactly my viewpoint..

[Soul]

 

I once committed to working at a firm, and passed up several other better job offers during my last year in school. I moved my family out of state and "kept my word" only to find out that after I had moved the firm was dissolving. Although things worked out great for me and I see your point, each person has to make their own decision and I don't see how MinnesotaCubs move was douchy. I'm sure if the firm that just hired him was contacted by someone "better" who would make them more money they would not hesitate to withdraw their job offer.

 

thank you...that is exactly my viewpoint..

 

Bah, you Minnesotans are comfortable with general douchy-ness anyway :mrgreen:

[jersey cubs fan]

sorry jersey, I think you are being extremely uptight about this, and I'm not sure Jon Hoke's hiring is a make or break move for the organization. sure, if he's the incoming GM or HC, but he's a db coach, who may have the opportunity to become a DC. Your right, he should be threatened with almight "accepted way of doing buisness". yea, that works.

 

besides, as raisen has poitned out, it all appears to be a mute point anyway

 

moot

 

And if you think honoring your word is uptight, then, well, whatever.

 

And it's moot because it would be absurd if it happens. Sorry, but you're wrong. It is not a generally accepted practice to back out on a contract to coach a football team a day later. If he did it, it would be a douchey move, just like when Belichik bolted on the Jets minutes before his introduction to the press and New England had to give up draft picks.

 

I once committed to working at a firm, and passed up several other better job offers during my last year in school. I moved my family out of state and "kept my word" only to find out that after I had moved the firm was dissolving. Although things worked out great for me and I see your point, each person has to make their own decision and I don't see how MinnesotaCubs move was douchy. I'm sure if the firm that just hired him was contacted by someone "better" who would make them more money they would not hesitate to withdraw their job offer.

 

Random firms dissolving are not the same as an NFL franchise. If you work in an industry where offers are withrawn after you accept, that's a product of a poorly run industry, and not at all related to an NFL coach accepting a coaching position and then looking for a new job the next day, which apparantly didn't happen here, in part because that is not an accepted practice for a "guy just doing what's best for him and his family."

[minnesotacubsfan]

Bah, you Minnesotans are comfortable with general douchy-ness anyway :mrgreen:

lol