College Football - Championship Week

[OleMissCub]

Given the outstanding pass rush that Ole Miss has

 

11 sacks against Miss St. \:D/

[Mephistopheles]

im not saying they should have won the game. the yardage in the end means more about the relative talent level of the two teams. in a prediction sense, it means more. i merely used the yardage to illustrate that the actual difference between the two teams was closer than the, already less than 2 touchdown difference.

 

Id say that a 2 touchdown difference between the two teams that might have existed last season has evaporated.

 

 

 

on a side note

 

holy hell, Oklahoma ran NINETY TWO PLAYS today..

[Mephistopheles]

It's like coming home and expecting to see Rosie O'Donnell waiting for you, but instead seeing Catherine Zeta-Jones.

 

Did you see who Tebow said his favourite actress was? Zeta-Jones indeed!

[shnsajax]

thats why we play the entire game. Ole Miss is vastly improved this year and the rushing game for Mizzous seems to have regressed a bit this year. In key games Mizzou has been unbelievably predictable: Let Daniel drop back 50 times and pass. Given the outstanding pass rush that Ole Miss has, like Texas and OU, you have to like their chances at disrupting Mizzou's offense like Texas and OU did. Really, Ole Miss is a better football team right now. There's little reason to believe otherwise. Missouri hasn't beaten anyone. They lost to crappy Kansas and got embarassed whenever they played top fifteen competiton.

 

Ole Miss on the other hand, was in every game they played. Nearly knocked off top ten Alabama and knocked off top ten Florida. You can't understand the development of Jevan Snead either. Snead might be a tossup with Daniel at this point in their careers. Sneads been dropping NFL passes the last five weeks or so. His development has been instrumental in their rise. I like their chances against Tech in the Cotton Bowl.

 

I've said this before, but before the season began a couple of years ago I liked Snead more than McCoy and thought he had a great chance to beat him out for the starting spot. McCoy was a better student, and knew how to run the offense very well which gave him the edge.

 

McCoy then broke the freshman record for td passes in the NCAA that season, which was broke by Bradford last season.

[dew1679666265]

It's like coming home and expecting to see Rosie O'Donnell waiting for you, but instead seeing Catherine Zeta-Jones.

 

Did you see who Tebow said his favourite actress was? Zeta-Jones indeed!

 

Hey, Tebow and I actually agree on something!

 

And her acting ability is only moderate to pretty good.

[Butterscup1679666578]

so Mizzou vs. Pitt in the Sun Bowl?

 

Is this a joke or no? I'm pretty sure Mizzou is nearly locked into the Alamo Bowl.

[Mephistopheles]

the best performance ive seen from a passing qb this season was his performance against LSU. the LSU defense had gotten gashed by UGA and UF. Tebow and Stafford had big windows to throw in as their WR got in big spaces. LSU got gashed by Ole Miss, but the CB play wasn't nearly as poor. Snead gashed them with outstanding passes. The second best was McCoys against OU where he was hitting the slants all night long on the blitz.

[OleMissCub]

 

I've said this before, but before the season began a couple of years ago I liked Snead more than McCoy and thought he had a great chance to beat him out for the starting spot. McCoy was a better student, and knew how to run the offense very well which gave him the edge.

 

McCoy then broke the freshman record for td passes in the NCAA that season, which was broke by Bradford last season.

 

The Snead-McCoy thing is really going to work out terrific for both players and programs in the end.

[Mephistopheles]

 

I've said this before, but before the season began a couple of years ago I liked Snead more than McCoy and thought he had a great chance to beat him out for the starting spot. McCoy was a better student, and knew how to run the offense very well which gave him the edge.

 

McCoy then broke the freshman record for td passes in the NCAA that season, which was broke by Bradford last season.

 

The Snead-McCoy thing is really going to work out terrific for both players and programs in the end.

 

Bradford was in that mix at one point too. Ironically enough, Snead was hooked into Florida at one point as well.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

im not saying they should have won the game. the yardage in the end means more about the relative talent level of the two teams. in a prediction sense, it means more. i merely used the yardage to illustrate that the actual difference between the two teams was closer than the, already less than 2 touchdown difference.

 

Id say that a 2 touchdown difference between the two teams that might have existed last season has evaporated.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Mizzou going up 28 points and rolling up nearly 500 yards of offense in the first 31 minutes means more and is more predictive than Ole Miss outscoring them by 15 the rest of the game.

[Mephistopheles]

you do that. i never said otherwise. but dont use points. im only saying that the game was closer than the score indicated, as far as predicative value. didnt say it closed the entire gap. i said whatever gapped remained was closed by snead and nutt and the development of the team this year...coupled with mizzou falling apart. Edited December 7, 2008 by Mephistopheles

[OleMissCub]

the best performance ive seen from a passing qb this season was his performance against LSU.

 

He made three passes in a row on one of the touchdown drives that were quite literally as perfect as you could throw a football. The CBS guys pretty much said the same thing. On all three passes the LSU defenders were right on top of their men. I've never seen anything like that.

[Mephistopheles]

he did that all game long.

[OleMissCub]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Mizzou going up 28 points and rolling up nearly 500 yards of offense in the first 31 minutes means more and is more predictive than Ole Miss outscoring them by 15 the rest of the game.

 

I'm in agreement with you that the yardage means nothing in the context of that game last year. Ole Miss got destroyed. However, what's your opinion on if a game were played today?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Mizzou going up 28 points and rolling up nearly 500 yards of offense in the first 31 minutes means more and is more predictive than Ole Miss outscoring them by 15 the rest of the game.

 

I'm in agreement with you that the yardage means nothing in the context of that game last year. Ole Miss got destroyed. However, what's your opinion on if a game were played today?

 

It'd be closer than the previous two years, but I don't think the personnel is different enough, even in conjunction with the coaching change, to change the outcome. I think Mizzou would outscore them, something like 45-28 or 45-31.

[Mephistopheles]

So, you're saying. If Missouri lost Chase Daniel, then they'd still beat them? Because that's what you are saying, even if you did not mean it.

 

Ole Miss basically added Chase Daniel this year....and Nutt.

[Mephistopheles]

I dont see how Ole Miss fails to top 40 in the game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I dont see how Ole Miss fails to top 40 in the game.

 

Makes sense, considering they got to 40 against Memphis, UL-Monroe, and Mississippi State this year, and no one else(a list that includes, Arkansas, Auburn, and Samford).

 

This whole argument is dumb and way off topic. Mizzou shredded Ole Miss last year, and you don't understand leverage at all, which is fascinating considering how often it's mentioned in baseball statistics. Now I'm done.

[Mephistopheles]

well there are two reasons for that comment.

 

1. Mizzou has no pass defense. They gave up 40 and 42 to the Illini and Kansas. Snead's a much better QB than Reesing and Juice.

 

2. You were predicting 40 points for Mizzou. The only way they get to forty against that defense is if the game is a quick pace game....meaning Ole Miss gets a ton of possessions too and they also score a ton of points.

 

Pace of game matters. See OU

[shnsajax]

 

I've said this before, but before the season began a couple of years ago I liked Snead more than McCoy and thought he had a great chance to beat him out for the starting spot. McCoy was a better student, and knew how to run the offense very well which gave him the edge.

 

McCoy then broke the freshman record for td passes in the NCAA that season, which was broke by Bradford last season.

 

The Snead-McCoy thing is really going to work out terrific for both players and programs in the end.

 

Bradford was in that mix at one point too. Ironically enough, Snead was hooked into Florida at one point as well.

 

John Brantley committed to Texas very early on only to back out after McCoy's freshman season and commit to Florida ](*,) . I ain't mad though, and this kid Texas has coming in might be the best yet in Garrett Gilbert from Lake Travis. In the Texas 4A state Quarterfinals his team won 71-9.

[Mephistopheles]

the only way to complete the cycle is moody. did moody ever come close to committing to texas. apparently hes good enough to start at any school but usc and florida.

[shnsajax]

 

I've said this before, but before the season began a couple of years ago I liked Snead more than McCoy and thought he had a great chance to beat him out for the starting spot. McCoy was a better student, and knew how to run the offense very well which gave him the edge.

 

McCoy then broke the freshman record for td passes in the NCAA that season, which was broke by Bradford last season.

 

The Snead-McCoy thing is really going to work out terrific for both players and programs in the end.

 

It really has, and like I've told you I am happy for Snead. He will be an interesting prospect after next season.

[OleMissCub]

It'd be closer than the previous two years, but I don't think the personnel is different enough, even in conjunction with the coaching change, to change the outcome. I think Mizzou would outscore them, something like 45-28 or 45-31.

 

That's absurd. Not a big enough difference? I'd say Jevan Snead is a pretty MASSIVE difference just in himself. Our QB last year rated damn near dead last. Snead is ranked 3rd this year in the SEC only behind Tebow and Stafford and was leading the conference in TD passes before tonight.

 

Our rushing offense was 11th in the SEC last year and 3rd this year thanks in large part to two freshman, one with 441 rushing yards (Brandon Bolden with 5.1 ypc) and the other with 222.

 

Offense:

 

2007: 12th (dead last) in SEC

2008: 4th

 

Defense:

 

2007: 11th

2008: 4th (led the SEC in sacks)

[Mephistopheles]

T_T hasn't watched a single Ole Miss game this season. Don't expect him to notice that.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It'd be closer than the previous two years, but I don't think the personnel is different enough, even in conjunction with the coaching change, to change the outcome. I think Mizzou would outscore them, something like 45-28 or 45-31.

 

That's absurd. Not a big enough difference? I'd say Jevan Snead is a pretty MASSIVE difference just in himself. Our QB last year rated damn near dead last. Snead is ranked 3rd this year in the SEC only behind Tebow and Stafford and was leading the conference in TD passes before tonight.

 

Our rushing offense was 11th in the SEC last year and 3rd this year thanks in large part to two freshman, one with 441 rushing yards (Brandon Bolden with 5.1 ypc) and the other with 222.

 

Offense:

 

2007: 12th (dead last) in SEC

2008: 4th

 

Defense:

 

2007: 11th

2008: 4th (led the SEC in sacks)

 

I didn't say it wouldn't be any difference, I said I didn't think it would be enough. Ole Miss is obviously much improved(though those rankings are a bit skewed by a much weaker SEC this year), but Mizzou put them away in 2 quarters last year on the road.