Re: Awards Voting

[SouthSideRyan]

Have at it, here are the guidelines according to the BBWAA.

 

MVP: 10 spots points awarded 14-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Cy Young: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

Rookie of the Year: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

Manager of the year: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

 

Voting for Geovany Soto for every spot isn't funny anymore.

[rocket]

i'm sure there are many flaws

 

NL MVP:

 

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Lance Berkman

4. Chipper Jones

5. Chase Utley

6. David Wright

7. Ryan Ludwick

8. Aramis Ramirez

9. Jose Reyes

10. Geovany Soto

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Brandon Webb

3. C.C. Sabathia

 

Rookie of the Year:

 

1. Geovany Soto

2. Joey Votto

3. Jair Jurrjens

 

Manager of the Year:

1. Lou Piniella

2. Fredi Gonzalez

3. Charlie Manuel

 

AL MVP:

 

1. Kevin Youkilis

2. Dustin Pedroia

3. Milton Bradley

4. Alex Rodriguez

5. Joe Mauer

6. Grady Sizemore

7. BJ Upton

8. Josh Hamilton

9. Evan Longoria

10. Carlos Quentin

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Cliff Lee

2. Roy Halladay

3. Ervin Santana

 

Rookie of the Year:

1. Evan Longoria

2. Alexei Ramirez

3. Denard Span

 

Manager of the Year:

 

1. Joe Maddon

2. Mike Sciosia

3. Terry Francona

[imb]

i'm not sure if i like this at all

 

National

MVP

pujols

hanley

wright

chipper

berkman

reyes

utley

holliday

beltran

Santana

 

CY

Santana

lincecum

hamels

 

ROY

soto

jurrjens

votto

 

 

american

MVP

ARod

Pedroia

Sizemore

Hamilton

Mauer

Quentin

Youk

Bradley

Cliff Lee

Halladay

 

CY

Cliff Lee

Halladay

Lester

 

ROY

Longoria

Span

Joba

[Ding Dong Johnson]

NL MVP:

1. Albert Pujols

2. Hanley Ramirez

3. Chipper Jones

4. Lance Berkman

5. Chase Utley

6. Ryan Braun

7. David Wright

8. Aramis Ramirez

9. Geovany Soto

10. Jose Reyes

 

Cy Young:

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Johan Santana

3. Ryan Dempster

 

Rookie of the Year:

1. Geovany Soto

2. Joey Votto

3. Jair Jurrjens

 

Manager of the Year:

1. Lou Piniella

2. Fredi Gonzalez

3. Tony LaRussa

 

AL MVP:

1. Dustin Pedroia

2. Grady Sizemore

3. Alex Rodriguez

4. Milton Bradley

5. Joe Mauer

6. Kevin Youkilis

7. Josh Hamilton

8. Evan Longoria

9. Ian Kinsler

10. Carlos Quentin

 

Cy Young:

1. Cliff Lee

2. Roy Halladay

3. Daisuke Matsuzaka

 

Rookie of the Year:

1. Evan Longoria

2. Denard Span

3. Alexei Ramirez

 

Manager of the Year:

1. Joe Maddon

2. Mike Scioscia

3. Terry Francona

[sneakypower]

Have at it, here are the guidelines according to the BBWAA.

 

MVP: 10 spots points awarded 14-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Cy Young: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

Rookie of the Year: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

Manager of the year: 3 spots awarded 5-3-1

 

Voting for Geovany Soto for every spot isn't funny anymore.

NL MVP:

1 Pujols

2 Manny

3 Berkman

4 Hanley

5 Holliday

6 Wright

7 Beltran

8 Chipper

9 Howard

10 Aramis

 

NL CY:

1 Lincecum

2 Webb

3 CC

 

NL ROY:

1 Soto

2 Votto

3 Jurjjens

 

AL MVP:

1 Mauer

2 Quentin

3 Pedroia

4 Sizemore

5 Hamilton

6 Morneau

7 Pena

8 Cabrera

9 Granderson

10 Youkilis i guess

 

AL CY:

1 Lee

2 Halladay

3 Erv Santana

 

AL ROY:

1 Longoria

2 Alex Ramirez

3 Galarragga

 

Lou and Maddon for MOY, dunno who deserves 2 & 3

[sneakypower]

i'm sure there are many flaws

 

AL MVP:

1. Kevin Youkilis

 

GAH

 

DEFEND THIS MADNESS POST HASTE

[rocket]

i'm sure there are many flaws

 

AL MVP:

1. Kevin Youkilis

 

GAH

 

DEFEND THIS MADNESS POST HASTE

 

HE WAS IN MONEYBALL

 

the al was pretty weak this year, so pretty much any #1 choice can be shot down. defensively and offensively, i'd say pedrioa and youkilis had the best overall contribution to their team. since it was a tie, my #1 vote went to the player i personally like better.

 

QUESTION FOR YOU. why do you have morneau ranked higher when youkilis has him beat in pretty much every stat category (except for rbi?) i only bring this up because i saw ken rosenthal pimping morneau for the mvp and it made me want to cry.

[sneakypower]

eh, Morneau was 16th in WPA and Youk was 37th, which factored in some

 

and speaking of WPA, i know it's not a be-all-end-all stat and has flaws but ARod barely had a positive total. for shame IMB for shame...

 

something funny is I think I saw was that Christian Guzman had a higher VORP than Morneau btw

[Clem Fandango]

NL MVP:

 

1. Albert Pujols

2. Ryan Howard

3. David Wright

4. Carlos Delgado

5. Hanley Ramirez

6. Lance Berkman

7. Ryan Braun

8. Chase Utley

9. Manny Ramirez

10.Carlos Beltran

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Johan Santana

3. Ryan Dempster

 

Rookie of the Year:

 

1. Geovany Soto

2. Joey Votto

3. Jair Jurrjens

 

Manager of the Year:

1. Lou Piniella

2. Charlie Manuel

3. Fredi Gonzalez

 

AL MVP:

 

1. Kevin Youkilis

2. Justin Morneau

3. Dustin Pedroia

4. Joe Mauer

5. Alex Rodriguez

6. Milton Bradley

7. Grady Sizemore

8. Josh Hamilton

9. Evan Longoria

10. Cliff Lee

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Cliff Lee

2. Roy Halladay

3. Ervin Santana

 

Rookie of the Year:

1. Evan Longoria

2. Alexei Ramirez

3. Jacoby Ellsbury

 

Manager of the Year:

 

1. Joe Maddon

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Terry Francona

[imb]

eh, Morneau was 16th in WPA and Youk was 37th, which factored in some

 

and speaking of WPA, i know it's not a be-all-end-all stat and has flaws but ARod barely had a positive total. for shame IMB for shame...

 

something funny is I think I saw was that Christian Guzman had a higher VORP than Morneau btw

 

i almost felt really bad but then i checked bp and he's still first in the AL in vorp so it cant be TOO bad of a pick

[sneakypower]

that's true, it's still better than Youkilis #1

[imb]

that's true, it's still better than Youkilis #1

 

just now browsing through the vorp leaderboards, how the hell is aubrey huff so high? fourth in the AL?

[sneakypower]

he hit a ton of XBH

 

6 more than everybody's favorite bald hideous Greek/Jew

[Backtobanks]

After watching what Sabathia did for the Brewers, it might change my mind on whether a pitcher should be considered for the MVP. It won't happen (MVP), but you can't find a better example of carrying a team to the playoffs almost single handedly than Sabathia in 2008. I would love to be his agent this offseason, unless his arm falls off during the playoffs.

[rocket]

he hit a ton of XBH

 

6 more than everybody's favorite bald hideous Greek/Jew

 

youkilis had 2 more xbh than morneau. despite playing in 17 less games.

 

THERE IS NO DEBATE

[carolinacubbie]

It seems insane to me that some of you don't have Howard higher. With RISP he hit .320. With RISP and less than 2 outs he hit .322. In September he hit .352 with 11 home runs. He led the league in home runs and RBIs. Granted his OPS might not be that great. The thing is he swings for the fences a lot with no one on base. He figures how much is a two out single really going to help my team. With men on he hit .309. I know a lot of you hate RBIs, and I am not even going to get in that argument, but the guy does close his swing up with men on base, and tries to drive in runs instead of swinging for the fences. With men on he OPSed over 1.000. One thing going against him is the fact that he was terrible late in games, but in all honesty I think he might be the most important player to his team that decided the outcome of their game. He also OPSed .964 in the second half and hit .274. From May on he hit .266, 43 HRs, 134 RBIs.

[SouthSideRyan]

It seems insane to me that some of you don't have Howard higher. With RISP he hit .320. With RISP and less than 2 outs he hit .322. In September he hit .352 with 11 home runs. He led the league in home runs and RBIs. Granted his OPS might not be that great. The thing is he swings for the fences a lot with no one on base. He figures how much is a two out single really going to help my team. With men on he hit .309. I know a lot of you hate RBIs, and I am not even going to get in that argument, but the guy does close his swing up with men on base, and tries to drive in runs instead of swinging for the fences. With men on he OPSed over 1.000. One thing going against him is the fact that he was terrible late in games, but in all honesty I think he might be the most important player to his team that decided the outcome of their game. He also OPSed .964 in the second half and hit .274. From May on he hit .266, 43 HRs, 134 RBIs.

 

Vote.

 

And April matters just as much as every other month.

[bukie]

This should be interesting...

 

NL MVP:

 

1. Lance Berkman

2. Albert Pujols

3. Carlos Beltran

4. Hanley Ramirez

5. Chase Utley

6. Jose Reyes

7. Nate McLouth

8. Ryan Braun

9. Tim Lincecum

10. David Wright

 

AL MVP:

 

1. Justin Morneau

2. Grady Sizemore

3. Ian Kinsler

4. Josh Hamilton

5. Joe Mauer

6. Cliff Lee

7. Carlos Quentin

8. Kevin Youkilis

9. Raul Ibanez

10. Curtis Granderson

 

NL CY:

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Johan Santana

3. Cole Hamels

 

AL CY:

 

1. Roy Halladay

2. Cliff Lee

3. Jon Lester

 

NL Rookies:

 

1. Geovany Soto

2. Joey Votto

3. Jair Jurrjens

 

AL Rookies:

 

1. Mike Aviles

2. Evan Longoria

3. Joba Chamberlain

 

NL Managers:

 

1. Cecil Cooper (still a dick)

2. Fredi Gonzales

3. Tony LaRussa

 

AL Managers:

 

1. Ron Gardenhire

2. Mike Scioscia

3. Ozzie Guillen (also still a dick)

 

All choices made through some kind of statistical measure. :)

[carolinacubbie]

NL MVP

1. Albert Pujols

2. Ryan Howard

3. Lance Berkman

4. Carlos Delgado

5. Aramis Ramirez

6. Ryan Braun

7. Manny Ramirez

8. Hanley Ramirez

9. Carlos Beltran

10. C.C. Sabathia

 

NL Cy Young

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Johan Santana

3. Brandon Webb

 

Al Cy Young

1. Cliff Lee

2. Roy Halladay

3. Mariano Rivera

 

NL Rookie of the Year

1. Geovany Soto

2. Jair Jurrgens

3. Joey Votto

 

Al Rookie of the Year

1. Evan Longoria

2. Alexi Ramirez

3. Jacoby Ellsbury

 

NL Manager of the Year

1. Lou Piniella

2. Joe Torre

3. Charlie Manuel

 

Al Manager of the Year

1. Joe Madden

2. Ron Gardenhire

3. Mike Scioscia

[SouthSideRyan]

We've got another 24 hours, keep yourselves sane and get to work.

 

NL MVP

 

Pujols

Berkman

Hanley

Chipper

Holliday

Utley

Lincecum

Aramis

Beltran

Ethier

 

 

AL MVP

 

Mauer

Kinsler

Pedroia

Sizemore

Youkilis

Roberts

Quentin

Lee

Halladay

Rodriguez

 

NL CY

 

Lincecum

Santana

Sabathia

 

AL CY

 

Lee

Halladay

Matsuzaka

 

NL ROY

 

Soto

Votto

Jurrjens

 

AL ROY

 

Longoria

Aviles

Span

 

NL MOY

 

LaRussa

Piniella

F. Gonzalez

 

AL MOY

 

Maddon

Gardenhire

Guillen

[SouthSideRyan]

IBA deadline is tonight

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/iba/index.php

 

We're never gonna prove our moral superiority over BPro and BBWAA if you don't fill out a ballot.

[Mike Aller]

NL MVP:

 

1. Albert Pujols

2. Chipper Jones

3. Ryan Howard

4. Hanley Ramirez

5. David Wright

6. Chase Utley

7. Carlos Delgado

8. Jose Reyes

9. Matt Holliday

10. Aramis Ramirez

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Tim Lincecum

2. Johan Santana

3. Brandon Webb

 

Rookie of the Year:

 

1. Geovany Soto

2. Jair Jurrjens

3. Joey Votto

 

Manager of the Year:

1. Lou Piniella

2. Joe Torre

3. Charlie Manuel

 

AL MVP:

 

1. Dustin Pedroia

2. Kevin Youkilis

3. Milton Bradley

4. Alex Rodriguez

5. Joe Mauer

6. Grady Sizemore

7. Miguel Cabrera

8. Josh Hamilton

9. Milton Bradley

10. Carlos Quentin

 

Cy Young:

 

1. Cliff Lee

2. Roy Halladay

3. John Lester

 

Rookie of the Year:

1. Evan Longoria

2. Alexei Ramirez

3. Denard Span

 

Manager of the Year:

 

1. Joe Maddon

2. Terry Francona

3. Eric Wedge