Lee and Ramirez really hurting our production right now.

[CuseCubFan69]

I was hoping when one of these guys slumped the other would be hitting around his average or above. Plus, it hurts not having Soriano around because he could have helped pick up some slack. These 2 guys can't always be the man so it's up to some of the other players to pick it up a notch, especially Koske, and help the Cubs score a few more runs. As I've said before, I'm not that confident in a Johnson/Derosa LF and the sooner Soriano comes back the better.

[Amazing_Grace]

How many teams do you think have 3-4 hitters with worse overall numbers than Lee and Ramirez?

 

The Cubs are getting the 8th best production out of the 3-hole and 9th best out of the cleanup spot.....that's in the majors. Lee and Ramirez are and have been fine.

 

They've been fine, over the course of the season. But as the person who started the thread noted, they are hurting the production right now. They've both struggled since May.

 

Why are people jumping all over those who make threads expressing frustration at bad streaks? Does anybody really think it's reasonable to expect fans to just sit back, relax and calmly take in the season? I'm so sick of the absurd storyline that Cubs fans get so up and down during the year. Really Lou, maybe that's because you are used to managing in areas where nobody has any emotions regarding the local baseball club. Don't pretend the Yankees fans aren't the same exact way. They prepare to hang guys like ARod the first time he pops out with men on in the 9th. There's nothing wrong with ventings some steam when the team goes through stretches like it's going through now. The Cubs are last in the NL in OPS since the ASB. They are 10th in the NL in OPS in July. They are back to the bottom of the barrel in the NL in OBP largely because they aren't taking walks anymore. It's frustrating, and considering how crappy the offense has been for several years, it's a little disconcerting, and completely understandable why some would think it may be a sign of things to come.

 

It's the non-walking that I find disturbing. It seems like Theriot, Fukudome, and Soto are the only guys still taking a walk on a somewhat regular basis.

[MasterBlaster]

The lack of walks is the entire problem I think. Didn't Randy Johnson have only 72 pitches at the start of the 7th inning last night? Thats just unacceptable and so 2007. At some point Lou has to intervene. I know those guys are professional hitters, but force them to be patient, why not tell the team to at least take the 1st pitch each at bat the first time through the order, no matter how sweet a strike it is.

 

That's how the team succeeded early in the year, take alot of walks and get the SP over 100 pc by the 5th or 6th, then feast on the bullpens. I know we scored a ton of runs from the 7th inning on before we started sucking.

[Jon]

Lee's GB/FB/LD trends are looking much better over the last month or so. His BABIP has increased, as well, yet his power keeps falling. It's a little strange.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/525_1B_daily_full_9_20080721.png

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/525_1B_daily_full_7_20080721.png

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/525_1B_daily_full_6_20080721.png

[jersey cubs fan]

It's the non-walking that I find disturbing. It seems like Theriot, Fukudome, and Soto are the only guys still taking a walk on a somewhat regular basis.

 

Those might be three of the least frequent walkers on the roster right now. Edmonds and Fontenot are taking bases on balls, as is DeRosa.

[fromthestretch]

It's the non-walking that I find disturbing. It seems like Theriot, Fukudome, and Soto are the only guys still taking a walk on a somewhat regular basis.

 

Those might be three of the least frequent walkers on the roster right now. Edmonds and Fontenot are taking bases on balls, as is DeRosa.

 

For July:

 

Soto: 69 PA, 3 BB

Lee: 76 PA, 6 BB

DeRosa: 68 PA, 8 BB

Ramirez: 66 PA, 6 BB

Theriot: 76 PA, 6 BB

Edmonds: 55 PA, 9 BB

Fukudome: 65 PA, 4 BB

Fontenot: 51 PA, 9 BB

 

Edmonds and Fontenot have been the best at drawing walks this month. Soto and Fukudome haven't been walking much at all.

[Amazing_Grace]

It's the non-walking that I find disturbing. It seems like Theriot, Fukudome, and Soto are the only guys still taking a walk on a somewhat regular basis.

 

Those might be three of the least frequent walkers on the roster right now. Edmonds and Fontenot are taking bases on balls, as is DeRosa.

 

For July:

 

Soto: 69 PA, 3 BB

Lee: 76 PA, 6 BB

DeRosa: 68 PA, 8 BB

Ramirez: 66 PA, 6 BB

Theriot: 76 PA, 6 BB

Edmonds: 55 PA, 9 BB

Fukudome: 65 PA, 4 BB

Fontenot: 51 PA, 9 BB

 

Edmonds and Fontenot have been the best at drawing walks this month. Soto and Fukudome haven't been walking much at all.

 

I stand corrected. Thanks. I'm often biased by the fact I see only the national telecast games and I'm often too lazy to look up the stats because I know someone will point out my error anyway.