Yeah, I'm the Grinch, but is anyone else sick of the media

[imb]

I also don't find it such a great, heartwarming story of redemption. Did he overcome incredible adversity to make it back to MLB? Indeed he did, but his self-inflicted hardship is a much different thing than if he were kneecapped by Tonya Harding, for example.

 

I certainly do not see Hamilton as some kind of role model, or trophy that should be raised as an example to kids that anyone can realize their dream. What is the message behind all that? Become a drug addict right out of high school, and don't worry, because in a few years you'll wake up from your drug-induced haze and your dream job will drop in your lap. What a horrible message, and it worked for Josh Hamilton, a person with a natural athletic talent that him and few other Human Beings possess.

 

That's just how the media is though, they always elevate whatever is against established societal manners. It's telling because like others mentioned, people who succeed legitimately without being criminals, or taking steroids are ignored by the mainstream press, because that's how they are supposed to be, just normal folks.

 

Yeah, he did it to himself, but that doesn't make addiction something he could just shake off. It's a disease. "Nobody says, "foresooth Mitch, you have lupus!"

 

Comparing drug addiction to something like lupus is pretty ridiculous to me. Also, this "it's a disease, they cant help it" argument has always seemed like an excuse to me. Trust me, I've known drug addicts before so I understand how difficult and serious drug addiction is, but ultimately a person has the ability to stop doing drugs if they want it bad enough. A person with lupus can't make it go away, it's not possible.

 

there's been an epidemic of people whiffing on hedberg jokes lately

[RynoRules]

I find it ironic that people who are so passionate about objective criteria used to evaluate something as relatively unimportant as baseball cannot acknowledge that science has shown drug and alcohol addiction is in fact a disease. Depression is too, by the way.

[RynoRules]

And BTW, I am really surprised that people don't seem to get why he references G-d as much as he does. Ever heard of the 12 steps? He's not an evangelist, he's a recovering addict.

[Derwood]

this is a bad thread for atheists

[RynoRules]

this is a bad thread for atheists

 

I don't know if this is what you are intending to do here, but if you are lumping Hamilton's faith in with everyone else who believes in a G-d you are revealing a bias that inhibits your logic.

[sneakypower]

relax its just an inane Rick Reilly quote but what's with the G-d?

 

its god censored on here?

 

edit: well that cant be it

 

confused minds want to know

[RynoRules]

relax its just an inane Rick Reilly quote but what's with the G-d?

 

its god censored on here?

 

edit: well that cant be it

 

confused minds want to know

 

I'm Jewish. Been doing it that way on this bd for a long time.

[sneakypower]

ah i guess i may have to brush up on my Pentateuch

[sweetpeteman]

this is a bad thread for atheists

 

I don't know if this is what you are intending to do here, but if you are lumping Hamilton's faith in with everyone else who believes in a G-d you are revealing a bias that inhibits your logic.

 

 

Go read FireJoeMorgan.

[Outshined_One]

The next person to post something offensive or insulting in this thread will get a 24 hour break from this board.

 

Enough already.

[sneakypower]

oops wrong thread O_O

[17 Seconds]

I also don't find it such a great, heartwarming story of redemption. Did he overcome incredible adversity to make it back to MLB? Indeed he did, but his self-inflicted hardship is a much different thing than if he were kneecapped by Tonya Harding, for example.

 

I certainly do not see Hamilton as some kind of role model, or trophy that should be raised as an example to kids that anyone can realize their dream. What is the message behind all that? Become a drug addict right out of high school, and don't worry, because in a few years you'll wake up from your drug-induced haze and your dream job will drop in your lap. What a horrible message, and it worked for Josh Hamilton, a person with a natural athletic talent that him and few other Human Beings possess.

 

That's just how the media is though, they always elevate whatever is against established societal manners. It's telling because like others mentioned, people who succeed legitimately without being criminals, or taking steroids are ignored by the mainstream press, because that's how they are supposed to be, just normal folks.

 

Yeah, he did it to himself, but that doesn't make addiction something he could just shake off. It's a disease. "Nobody says, "foresooth Mitch, you have lupus!"

 

Comparing drug addiction to something like lupus is pretty ridiculous to me. Also, this "it's a disease, they cant help it" argument has always seemed like an excuse to me. Trust me, I've known drug addicts before so I understand how difficult and serious drug addiction is, but ultimately a person has the ability to stop doing drugs if they want it bad enough. A person with lupus can't make it go away, it's not possible.

 

there's been an epidemic of people whiffing on hedberg jokes lately

 

Who tried to make a Hedberg joke?

[Drew Doughty]

I also don't find it such a great, heartwarming story of redemption. Did he overcome incredible adversity to make it back to MLB? Indeed he did, but his self-inflicted hardship is a much different thing than if he were kneecapped by Tonya Harding, for example.

 

I certainly do not see Hamilton as some kind of role model, or trophy that should be raised as an example to kids that anyone can realize their dream. What is the message behind all that? Become a drug addict right out of high school, and don't worry, because in a few years you'll wake up from your drug-induced haze and your dream job will drop in your lap. What a horrible message, and it worked for Josh Hamilton, a person with a natural athletic talent that him and few other Human Beings possess.

 

That's just how the media is though, they always elevate whatever is against established societal manners. It's telling because like others mentioned, people who succeed legitimately without being criminals, or taking steroids are ignored by the mainstream press, because that's how they are supposed to be, just normal folks.

 

Yeah, he did it to himself, but that doesn't make addiction something he could just shake off. It's a disease. "Nobody says, "foresooth Mitch, you have lupus!"

 

Comparing drug addiction to something like lupus is pretty ridiculous to me. Also, this "it's a disease, they cant help it" argument has always seemed like an excuse to me. Trust me, I've known drug addicts before so I understand how difficult and serious drug addiction is, but ultimately a person has the ability to stop doing drugs if they want it bad enough. A person with lupus can't make it go away, it's not possible.

 

there's been an epidemic of people whiffing on hedberg jokes lately

 

Who tried to make a Hedberg joke?

 

seriously?

 

Alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only one you can get yelled at for having. [expletive] Otto, you are an alcoholic. [expletive] Otto, you have Lupus... one of those two doesn't sound right.

 

come on, he even used the name "mitch" in his post.