Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-6-2008

[Outshined_One]

Vitters walks. 0 for 2 (ground out, fly out) with a HBP and a BB.

 

.348/.400/.514/.914

 

He raised the AVG last night, so he had to work on the IsoD tonight.

 

Tomorrow, the IsoP!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Opitz continues to be strong peripherally, 2 for 4 with a triple and a walk tonight.

 

For Iowa, Pie went 1 for 5 with a walk and K. Hoffpauir was 3 for 5 with a double, HR, and a walk. EPatt was 1 for 6 with a double. Ascanio got hit around in his return to the Iowa pen, 1 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0/1 K/BB.

 

Special mention for Casey McGehee. 3 for 6 tonight. He's gotten red hot after a slow start. He hit .330/.420/.489/.909 in June and is now .500/.519/.654/1.173 for July.

[Guest]

Vitters, representing the go-ahead run with the bases loaded, grounds out to end the game. :(

[TruffleShuffle]

Vitters, representing the go-ahead run with the bases loaded, grounds out to end the game. :(

 

shoulda traded him after yesterday's game when his value was at an all-time peak

[badnews]

Can we even remotely trust Boise offensive numbers? Everybody seems to look good at Boise. Josh Donaldson was a world beater at Boise. Boise made Alfred Joseph look plausible. Russ Canzler had like a .300 Isolated Power as a 20 year old at Boise.

 

I think Boise offensive numbers may be about as reliable as Advanced A Lancaster offensive numbers. Too many utterly crappy players are good there and do absolutely nothing elsewhere. Russ Canzler! 20 is no way too old for Boise, he's like a .680 OPS everywhere else. Josh Donaldson is a 1.075 OPS guy playing for Boise, .650 everywhere else.

 

Before I have any faith in Vitters he will have to prove himself somewhere where Russell Canzler doesn't look like Brandon Wood.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Can we even remotely trust Boise offensive numbers? Everybody seems to look good at Boise. Josh Donaldson was a world beater at Boise. Boise made Alfred Joseph look plausible. Russ Canzler had like a .300 Isolated Power as a 20 year old at Boise.

 

I think Boise offensive numbers may be about as reliable as Advanced A Lancaster offensive numbers. Too many utterly crappy players are good there and do absolutely nothing elsewhere. Russ Canzler! 20 is no way too old for Boise, he's like a .680 OPS everywhere else. Josh Donaldson is a 1.075 OPS guy playing for Boise, .650 everywhere else.

 

Before I have any faith in Vitters he will have to prove himself somewhere where Russell Canzler doesn't look like Brandon Wood.

 

I'd expect nothing less.

[Donzo1679666396]

So, let me see if I have this right.

 

Good stats for Vitters are meaningless.... Bad stats for Vitters are doubled... No?

[Jon]

What's the report on Luis Bautista at Peoria? I know he's a bit older, but he's shown good patience so far in his young career and now he's hitting for some power. Can he stick at catcher?

[Guest]

To be fair, Boise and the NWL are hitter friendly. But yeah...

[cubweiser03]

Yo.

Rich Hills line.

Until i saw the side session news translate to a game i was apprehensive of that report. His latest line is MUCH better than i expected. Sure seems like a breakthrough.

[Guest]

What's the report on Luis Bautista at Peoria? I know he's a bit older, but he's shown good patience so far in his young career and now he's hitting for some power. Can he stick at catcher?

 

I know nothing about him except that he's Jose Bautista's brother. He was drafted as a catcher (32nd round) so maybe he can stick, but 23 year olds OPSing 1.041 at Peoria need to be moved up.

[Jon]

Did anyone see what Walrond did yesterday for the IronPigs?

 

9 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 17 K, 115 pitches, 83 strikes, 1 HBP

[Guest]

Holy crap.

[badnews]

Can we even remotely trust Boise offensive numbers? Everybody seems to look good at Boise. Josh Donaldson was a world beater at Boise. Boise made Alfred Joseph look plausible. Russ Canzler had like a .300 Isolated Power as a 20 year old at Boise.

 

I think Boise offensive numbers may be about as reliable as Advanced A Lancaster offensive numbers. Too many utterly crappy players are good there and do absolutely nothing elsewhere. Russ Canzler! 20 is no way too old for Boise, he's like a .680 OPS everywhere else. Josh Donaldson is a 1.075 OPS guy playing for Boise, .650 everywhere else.

 

Before I have any faith in Vitters he will have to prove himself somewhere where Russell Canzler doesn't look like Brandon Wood.

 

I'd expect nothing less.

 

Am I being unfair? Is what I'm saying about Boise untrue? I keep an eye on a lot of minor league teams and Boise seems to be in the top 3 in producing hitting mirages.

 

I shouldn't even have to explain it further. All I should have to type is RUSSELL CANZLER THREE HUNDRED ISOLATED POWER in all capital letters.

 

As for the other poster, if a guy hits well in Arlington it doesn't mean he's great, but if he hits badly there he is probably even less so. I don't see where there's a double standard.

 

You guys think I'm being unfair, I think you're giving away too many free passes. He doesn't even have to do better than Canzler and now he's great.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You guys think I'm being unfair, I think you're giving away too many free passes. He doesn't even have to do better than Canzler and now he's great.

 

This is the problem, you seem to interpret any type of happiness at the success of a prospect as some sort of wholesale endorsement of that player as a future superstar and proof that our scouting department is the best of the best, or you take one person jumping to that conclusion and apply it to everyone here.