6/21 White Sox (Contreras) at Cubs (Marquis) 12:05 WGN

[BigSlick]

AARON MILES HOME RUN

 

CARDINALS LEAD 2-0 WITH NO OUT IN THE 1ST

[Little Slide Rooter]

Reason #378 on why Saves are stupid

 

This is a save situation

 

Woody gives up a long ball here you won't feel the same way.

 

The odds of an average major-leaguer hitting a HR in any given PA is like 2%. Why manage around that possibility?

 

Because of what Woody just did.

 

Its really not a cheap save though. Had Swisher gotten on, Crede is known for making big things happen when it counts.

 

Now lets go Red Sox and Orioles!

[hawkcub]

AARON MILES HOME RUN

 

CARDINALS LEAD 2-0 WITH NO OUT IN THE 1ST

:banghead:

[cubscausestress]

i would disown almost every single one of those people dancing and singing that song. jesus.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Another reason why I'd like to land another reliever at the deadline. I also wouldn't mind moving Howry.

 

The Cubs don't need another reliever. The pen is fine.

 

I look at it like this. Besides Marmol, there isn't a guy who is going to come in and shut the opponents down. If he's struggling, there is no one. I'd love to make a move on Fuentes or someone, send Cotts down for Ascanio, and when we trade for Burnett or Sabathia, see if they will take Howry in the deal. Howry will somewhat help even out the money, and he's an FA after this year, so he'll help Cleveland or Toronto recoup the draft picks they'd get when Sabathia walks and if Burnett walks. I don't think the bullpen is a HUGE need, but it very well could be if Marmol struggles for awhile.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Saturday 21 June 2008

white sox @ CUBS

12:05

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
white sox       2 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 1              7 11  0
CUBS            1 0 0 9 0 1 0 0               11 15  0



white sox
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Cabrera       ss       5   1   1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pierzynski    c        5   0   1   1   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Quentin       lf       4   2   3   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Dye           rf       5   1   2   3   0   0   3   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0
Swisher       1b       5   1   1   0   0   3   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Crede         3b       3   0   0   0   1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wise          cf       2   1   1   2   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Ramirez       2b       4   0   1   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Contreras     p        1   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Logan         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Uribe         ph       1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Masset        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Anderson      ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Russell       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Thome         ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                37   7  11   6   4   7  16   0   0   0   1   0   2   0   2   0   0



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Fukudome      rf       5   1   2   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
E Patterson   lf       5   2   3   1   0   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
D Lee         1b       4   2   2   1   1   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ramirez       3b       5   1   2   4   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Edmonds       cf       4   2   2   2   1   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   0
Fontenot      2b       2   1   1   1   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
DeRosa        ph-2b    2   0   1   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Soto          c        4   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Theriot       ss       3   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Marquis       p        4   1   2   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Marmol        p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Howry         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wood          p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                38  11  15  11   3   4  10   1   0   0   0   0   2   0   4   0   0



white sox
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Contreras        3.3  10   9   9   2   1   3   72
Logan            0.7   1   1   1   0   1   1   7
Masset           2.0   2   1   1   1   1   0   29
Russell          2.0   2   0   0   0   1   0   30

totals           8.0  15  11  11   3   4   4  138


CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Marquis          7.0   8   5   5   1   4   2   93
Marmol           1.0   0   1   1   3   1   0   31
Howry            0.7   3   1   1   0   1   0   23
Wood             0.3   0   0   0   0   1   0   4

totals           9.0  11   7   7   4   7   2  151



Home runs:
white sox: Dye (16), Wise (1)
CUBS: Edmonds (3 & 4), Ramirez (13), Fontenot (3)

W: Marquis (6-3)
S: Wood 
L: Contreras (6-6)

T: 2:55
A: 41,021

 

 

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/pistolcub21/CubsFlag.gif

[Soul]

AARON MILES HOME RUN

 

CARDINALS LEAD 2-0 WITH NO OUT IN THE 1ST

:banghead:

 

They are amazing, I have to admit it.

[E.J.]

i would disown almost every single one of those people dancing and singing that song. jesus.

 

Yeah, there were some hilarious people there. You had the college girl who didn't know the words, and then the extremely drunk girl in the bleachers who had her foot up on the wall so you could basically see up her dress.

[BigSlick]

Tim McCarver waxing poetic on Ankiel while Ankiel is only having a so-so year

 

Don't think he'll be amazing without his HGH anymore

[E.J.]

Looks like Boston should have kept Dice K on the DL. :x

[ZMovieman]

While I don't think the Cubs are close, this current home win streak made me wonder what the longest home winning streak is in baseball history. Anyone know?

[bcruise]

4-0 Cards.

[Butterscup1679666578]

While I don't think the Cubs are close, this current home win streak made me wonder what the longest home winning streak is in baseball history. Anyone know?

 

A quick google search says 18 by the '53 Yanks.

[TruffleShuffle]

screw you daisuke

[Butterscup1679666578]

While I don't think the Cubs are close, this current home win streak made me wonder what the longest home winning streak is in baseball history. Anyone know?

 

A quick google search says 18 by the '53 Yanks.

 

Nevermind I don't think that's right.

[illiniguy]

4-0 Cards.

:roll: Just ridiculous.

 

That should be a .400 team, not a .600 one.

[Guest]

Another reason why I'd like to land another reliever at the deadline. I also wouldn't mind moving Howry.

 

The Cubs don't need another reliever. The pen is fine.

 

I look at it like this. Besides Marmol, there isn't a guy who is going to come in and shut the opponents down. If he's struggling, there is no one. I'd love to make a move on Fuentes or someone, send Cotts down for Ascanio, and when we trade for Burnett or Sabathia, see if they will take Howry in the deal. Howry will somewhat help even out the money, and he's an FA after this year, so he'll help Cleveland or Toronto recoup the draft picks they'd get when Sabathia walks and if Burnett walks. I don't think the bullpen is a HUGE need, but it very well could be if Marmol struggles for awhile.

 

I assume you're not counting Woody in there since he's the closer. Wuertz currently has an ERA+ or 174 (better than Marmol) and certainly has the ability to be a shut down reliever - something he's shown on many occasions. Scott Eyre has had one bad outing this year against Tampa Bay, though he did come in to the highest leverage situation there is (if you don't consider the inning). Starting in July of last year, he's been lights out (ERA of 0 in July, 1.86 in August, 0 in September and 0.87 this year if you take out that the one appearance against Tampa). He's proven over four months to be a more than adequate reliever. So that's three reliever, in addition to Woody, that Lou should have faith in. If he doesn't, well, that's his problem.

 

Howry has definitely been shaky but I'm hoping he can repeat last year where he got better the second half of the year. I'd also like to see Ascanio get called up because he was fine when he was with the Cubs.

[bukie]

Trading actual players for another team's reliever has shown time and again to be a bad idea.

[Butterscup1679666578]

4-0 Cards.

:roll: Just ridiculous.

 

That should be a .400 team, not a .600 one.

 

I said many times at the beginning of the year that the Cards would be lucky to win 70 games.

 

F them.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Another reason why I'd like to land another reliever at the deadline. I also wouldn't mind moving Howry.

 

The Cubs don't need another reliever. The pen is fine.

 

I look at it like this. Besides Marmol, there isn't a guy who is going to come in and shut the opponents down. If he's struggling, there is no one. I'd love to make a move on Fuentes or someone, send Cotts down for Ascanio, and when we trade for Burnett or Sabathia, see if they will take Howry in the deal. Howry will somewhat help even out the money, and he's an FA after this year, so he'll help Cleveland or Toronto recoup the draft picks they'd get when Sabathia walks and if Burnett walks. I don't think the bullpen is a HUGE need, but it very well could be if Marmol struggles for awhile.

 

I assume you're not counting Woody in there since he's the closer. Wuertz currently has an ERA+ or 174 (better than Marmol) and certainly has the ability to be a shut down reliever - something he's shown on many occasions. Scott Eyre has had one bad outing this year against Tampa Bay, though he did come in to the highest leverage situation there is (if you don't consider the inning). Starting in July of last year, he's been lights out (ERA of 0 in July, 1.86 in August, 0 in September and 0.87 this year if you take out that the one appearance against Tampa). He's proven over four months to be a more than adequate reliever. So that's three reliever, in addition to Woody, that Lou should have faith in. If he doesn't, well, that's his problem.

 

Howry has definitely been shaky but I'm hoping he can repeat last year where he got better the second half of the year. I'd also like to see Ascanio get called up because he was fine when he was with the Cubs.

 

I've got no problems with Eyre or Wuertz, they've been great, but when they come in I expect them to give up a few base runners here and there. Say Marmol struggles and loads the bases. There is no one else in the pen that I feel that we could bring in and get the big strike out in that situation. I felt that way with Wuertz last year, but not so much this year. It'd be nice to have another guy like that on the team to help out if Marmol hits a rough patch. Again, I wouldn't go out and overpay for one, and I'm more than willing to give Howry a few more weeks to see if he gets it all together, but if we near the deadline and his ERA is still in the upper 4's, I think it's something we have to look into.

[illiniguy]

I just saw Lou rap. WTH?

[BCVM22]

This is one of the sweetest highlight shows in a long time. Pat's shock at Edmonds in th 4th is palpable.

[bcruise]

Schumacher gloves in a run, robbing Manny of an RBI single to end the 1st. :cray:

[dag27]

I'm sure it was mentioned in one of the 35 pages of this thread, but in yesterdays White Sox broadcast, did anyone hear Hawk when he said that "you don't want to get in a slugfest with the White Sox, cause up and down the lineup they'll out slug the Cubs any day." It wasn't exactly that, but it was to that effect. Anyone else hear this? After these first two games, he looks like even more of an idiot then he did before.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

In reference to Go Cubs Go....

 

WSI...

 

"My thought was since when do the Cubs and their fans think that their the American League version of the Red Sawks with their version of "Sweet Caroline." Your right no wonder they haven't won a WS in a 100 years.......

Stinking Cubs grrrrrrrrrr"

 

 

:grin: