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No, but it does show regression even from '03 to '08 or from Smith's 1st year to his final year at UK.

 

I'm not wrong in stating my disappointment in the direction UK was heading under Smith, I fail to see how I'm being unreasonable with that. Any program that had the same previous success would state likewise.

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It was a real rough 10-year stretch for Kentucky going 263-83 overall, 120-40 in the SEC, winning five SEC regular season titles, four SEC tournament titles, advancing to four Elite Eights, two more Sweet Sixteens, and winning a National Championship.

 

And then compare 93-98 to 03-08.

 

That's it? That Tubby was worse than Pitino? What a revelation. You can't seriously expect any coach to duplicate that Pitino stretch (which, by the way, your stretch includes a National Title won by Tubby). It's completely unrealistic. Tubby wasn't as good as Pitino -- but UK kept with that theme in also replacing Tubby with an inferior coach.

 

Still, from 2003-08, Kentucky went 131-40 overall, 61-19 in the SEC, won two SEC regular season titles, two SEC tournament titles, one 16-0 (19-0 actually) SEC season, two elite eights and no first-round NCAA tournament losses. Again, it had to be real rough on Kentucky during that stretch.

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It was a real rough 10-year stretch for Kentucky going 263-83 overall, 120-40 in the SEC, winning five SEC regular season titles, four SEC tournament titles, advancing to four Elite Eights, two more Sweet Sixteens, and winning a National Championship.

 

And then compare 93-98 to 03-08.

 

That's it? That Tubby was worse than Pitino? What a revelation. You can't seriously expect any coach to duplicate that Pitino stretch (which, by the way, your stretch includes a National Title won by Tubby). It's completely unrealistic. Tubby wasn't as good as Pitino -- but UK kept with that theme in also replacing Tubby with an inferior coach.

 

Still, from 2003-08, Kentucky went 131-40 overall, 61-19 in the SEC, won two SEC regular season titles, two SEC tournament titles, one 16-0 (19-0 actually) SEC season, two elite eights and no first-round NCAA tournament losses. Again, it had to be real rough on Kentucky during that stretch.

 

Never said it was rough, it wasn't good enough though.

 

UK won't be as good as they were when I was there and I'm not expecting that, but they should do better than what they have rbeen ecently. Whether or not that can happen under Gillespie remains to be seen.

 

If anyone here can't see that that is message I'm trying to convey rather than judge every coach by the standard of Pitino is their own stupidity and not mine.

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No, but it does show regression even from '03 to '08 or from Smith's 1st year to his final year at UK.

 

I'm not wrong in stating my disappointment in the direction UK was heading under Smith, I fail to see how I'm being unreasonable with that. Any program that had the same previous success would state likewise.

 

It is more a matter of being unrealistic as opposed to unreasonable. But carry on. By your standards, Billy Clyde won't last long either.

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No, but it does show regression even from '03 to '08 or from Smith's 1st year to his final year at UK.

 

I'm not wrong in stating my disappointment in the direction UK was heading under Smith, I fail to see how I'm being unreasonable with that. Any program that had the same previous success would state likewise.

 

It is more a matter of being unrealistic as opposed to unreasonable. But carry on. By your standards, Billy Clyde won't last long either.

 

Like I said, wanting improvement from their current state or what transpired from the previous 5 years as far as no final four showings is not unreasonable or in this case "unrealistic".

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No, but it does show regression even from '03 to '08 or from Smith's 1st year to his final year at UK.

 

I'm not wrong in stating my disappointment in the direction UK was heading under Smith, I fail to see how I'm being unreasonable with that. Any program that had the same previous success would state likewise.

 

It is more a matter of being unrealistic as opposed to unreasonable. But carry on. By your standards, Billy Clyde won't last long either.

 

What's the jail time like in Kentucky for 3rd time offenders?

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I'm not a "Tubby-hater" like many UK fans are, but I was happy when he decided to pursue the job at Minnesota. It was good for Tubby, and hopefully it will turn out to be better for UK as well. The decisions of Meeks and Patterson at the end of the season will have a big impact on Gillispie's success in the next 2 or 3 years.

 

Meeks is so gone.

 

Patterson would be wise to go too.

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Yes, it's totally reasonable to expect a final 4 every other year.

 

How about every year?

 

:)

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