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Out of all the Cubs players, Marmol deserves it the most. He's the best relief pitcher in baseball. I really, really hope he's included.

 

Soto is more deserving.

 

It'd be a tough decision if only one could go... but if Marmol really is the best reliever in the NL, and Soto is even with McCann to be the best catcher in the NL... doesn't that indicate that Marmol should get the nod over Soto (again, with the understanding that only one could go)?

 

Soto is more deserving than McCann. And the best C is more valuable than the best RP, in my opinion.

 

I know this is a Cub website obviously. But you can't honestly say that Soto is more deserving than McCann. You could say they are equal but to just flat out say Soto is more deserving than McCann is wrong. Just like I won't say McCann is more deserving than Soto.

 

It all depends on how much you value defense from your catcher. If one greatly values defense from the catcher, then yes, Soto is more deserving. The offensive numbers are close enough, that the defense from Soto could give him the edge. If you minimize the impact of catching defense, then they are likely equals.

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Out of all the Cubs players, Marmol deserves it the most. He's the best relief pitcher in baseball. I really, really hope he's included.

 

Soto is more deserving.

 

It'd be a tough decision if only one could go... but if Marmol really is the best reliever in the NL, and Soto is even with McCann to be the best catcher in the NL... doesn't that indicate that Marmol should get the nod over Soto (again, with the understanding that only one could go)?

 

Soto is more deserving than McCann. And the best C is more valuable than the best RP, in my opinion.

 

I know this is a Cub website obviously. But you can't honestly say that Soto is more deserving than McCann. You could say they are equal but to just flat out say Soto is more deserving than McCann is wrong. Just like I won't say McCann is more deserving than Soto.

 

It all depends on how much you value defense from your catcher. If one greatly values defense from the catcher, then yes, Soto is more deserving. The offensive numbers are close enough, that the defense from Soto could give him the edge. If you minimize the impact of catching defense, then they are likely equals.

 

I didn't even realize that McCann was that bad on defense, my bad.

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Out of all the Cubs players, Marmol deserves it the most. He's the best relief pitcher in baseball. I really, really hope he's included.

 

Soto is more deserving.

 

It'd be a tough decision if only one could go... but if Marmol really is the best reliever in the NL, and Soto is even with McCann to be the best catcher in the NL... doesn't that indicate that Marmol should get the nod over Soto (again, with the understanding that only one could go)?

 

Soto is more deserving than McCann. And the best C is more valuable than the best RP, in my opinion.

 

I know this is a Cub website obviously. But you can't honestly say that Soto is more deserving than McCann. You could say they are equal but to just flat out say Soto is more deserving than McCann is wrong. Just like I won't say McCann is more deserving than Soto.

 

It all depends on how much you value defense from your catcher. If one greatly values defense from the catcher, then yes, Soto is more deserving. The offensive numbers are close enough, that the defense from Soto could give him the edge. If you minimize the impact of catching defense, then they are likely equals.

 

I didn't even realize that McCann was that bad on defense, my bad.

 

He's not bad, as in Piazza bad, but he's probably in the lower half defensively. Soto is very good defensively. That's why I said it depends on how much you value defense behind the plate. McCann is not so bad that it's a slam dunk for Soto, unless you value small variations in defense with the same grade as small variations in offense.

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Out of all the Cubs players, Marmol deserves it the most. He's the best relief pitcher in baseball. I really, really hope he's included.

 

Soto is more deserving.

 

It'd be a tough decision if only one could go... but if Marmol really is the best reliever in the NL, and Soto is even with McCann to be the best catcher in the NL... doesn't that indicate that Marmol should get the nod over Soto (again, with the understanding that only one could go)?

 

Soto is more deserving than McCann. And the best C is more valuable than the best RP, in my opinion.

 

I know this is a Cub website obviously. But you can't honestly say that Soto is more deserving than McCann. You could say they are equal but to just flat out say Soto is more deserving than McCann is wrong. Just like I won't say McCann is more deserving than Soto.

 

It all depends on how much you value defense from your catcher. If one greatly values defense from the catcher, then yes, Soto is more deserving. The offensive numbers are close enough, that the defense from Soto could give him the edge. If you minimize the impact of catching defense, then they are likely equals.

 

I didn't even realize that McCann was that bad on defense, my bad.

 

He's not bad, as in Piazza bad, but he's probably in the lower half defensively. Soto is very good defensively. That's why I said it depends on how much you value defense behind the plate. McCann is not so bad that it's a slam dunk for Soto, unless you value small variations in defense with the same grade as small variations in offense.

 

Well obviously he is not PIAZZA BAD lol. And has Soto gotten better? I remember when we played you guys we ran all over him and he seemed like a mess.

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Out of all the Cubs players, Marmol deserves it the most. He's the best relief pitcher in baseball. I really, really hope he's included.

 

Soto is more deserving.

 

It'd be a tough decision if only one could go... but if Marmol really is the best reliever in the NL, and Soto is even with McCann to be the best catcher in the NL... doesn't that indicate that Marmol should get the nod over Soto (again, with the understanding that only one could go)?

 

Soto is more deserving than McCann. And the best C is more valuable than the best RP, in my opinion.

 

I know this is a Cub website obviously. But you can't honestly say that Soto is more deserving than McCann. You could say they are equal but to just flat out say Soto is more deserving than McCann is wrong. Just like I won't say McCann is more deserving than Soto.

 

It all depends on how much you value defense from your catcher. If one greatly values defense from the catcher, then yes, Soto is more deserving. The offensive numbers are close enough, that the defense from Soto could give him the edge. If you minimize the impact of catching defense, then they are likely equals.

 

I didn't even realize that McCann was that bad on defense, my bad.

 

He's not bad, as in Piazza bad, but he's probably in the lower half defensively. Soto is very good defensively. That's why I said it depends on how much you value defense behind the plate. McCann is not so bad that it's a slam dunk for Soto, unless you value small variations in defense with the same grade as small variations in offense.

 

Well obviously he is not PIAZZA BAD lol. And has Soto gotten better? I remember when we played you guys we ran all over him and he seemed like a mess.

 

Yeah, he made some mechanical adjustments after that first series. Just some early season jitters that caused his motion to go off a little bit. He's thrown out 32.3% of runners overall this year.

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